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    I think he's been at Notre Dame since the Clinton administration(maybe he'll be around for the next one). I think two things,the safety position is a little sparse this year and it's hard to project them to the next level, most teams are pretty much just looking for cover guys and not guys that can actually tackle. Zibikowski is probably a 3rd round pick on paper but i think what could bump him up a round to round 2 is the fact he's one of the better punt returners around. Field position being key to winning ballgames i think that is a major plus for him.

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    He is a 2nd/3rd round value as a safety, but his punt returning style won't make it in the NFL in my opinion. He runs straight ahead with less than spectacular speed and hasn't showed the elusiveness to make multiple people miss and change direction. Almost all of his big returns at ND were right up the gut and he was basically untouched. Solid college safety and PR, but probably won't be returning punts in the NFL.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Don Vito View Post
      He is a 2nd/3rd round value as a safety, but his punt returning style won't make it in the NFL in my opinion. He runs straight ahead with less than spectacular speed and hasn't showed the elusiveness to make multiple people miss and change direction. Almost all of his big returns at ND were right up the gut and he was basically untouched. Solid college safety and PR, but probably won't be returning punts in the NFL.
      You may be right but remember he was a great runner out of highschool and his speed, which according to rocket scientist Pat Haden isnt all that great,is actually very good, i predict he'll run at least a 4.5 flat forty.When you are taking back punts against the likes of USC, Michigan and Tennessee you're legit.

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      • #4
        Trust me, his style won't work. The first time he tries to run up the gut on a punt return, a 250 pound ST specialist will murder him.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by mqtirishfan View Post
          Trust me, his style won't work. The first time he tries to run up the gut on a punt return, a 250 pound ST specialist will murder him.

          Try to make some sense ok, Wes Welker is a very good punt returner and he's probably 180 soaking wet, dont worry about Tommy Z.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Babylon View Post
            Try to make some sense ok, Wes Welker is a very good punt returner and he's probably 180 soaking wet, dont worry about Tommy Z.

            Welker is quick and shifty. Tommy Z is not. Tell me the next time Welker tries to plow through NFL players on a punt return.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Babylon View Post
              Try to make some sense ok, Wes Welker is a very good punt returner and he's probably 180 soaking wet, dont worry about Tommy Z.
              haha when the guy said Tommys style was no good for the NFLi dont think he meant tommy was too big and strong for the job haha

              and for that mattter i agree that i dont think Tom will return punts in the NFL. I just feel that in the NFL there are gonna be guys who are fast and shifty and do the job just as well. having a guy like Tom back there is settling. Btw im not hating on him, i love him and notre dame always have. I think hes a legit 2nd round safety and i hope the chargers go and get him.. i think hes perfect for our needs..


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              • #8
                Originally posted by Don Vito View Post
                He is a 2nd/3rd round value as a safety, but his punt returning style won't make it in the NFL in my opinion. He runs straight ahead with less than spectacular speed and hasn't showed the elusiveness to make multiple people miss and change direction. Almost all of his big returns at ND were right up the gut and he was basically untouched. Solid college safety and PR, but probably won't be returning punts in the NFL.


                please go watch one of the best returners in the NFL....Josh Cribbs....almost identical return style as Tommy Z

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                • #9
                  This has been questioned before, but what are the chances Zbikowski plays OLB in a Cover 2 defense? I don't pay much attention to ND, but it seems to be a consesus opinion that 'Z is a great tackler and poor in coverage. Not to mention, players like Cato June have transferred into LB in the NFL pretty nicely. I'm assuming his NFL niche will be SS or OLB in a Cover 2.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TitanHope View Post
                    This has been questioned before, but what are the chances Zbikowski plays OLB in a Cover 2 defense? I don't pay much attention to ND, but it seems to be a consesus opinion that 'Z is a great tackler and poor in coverage. Not to mention, players like Cato June have transferred into LB in the NFL pretty nicely. I'm assuming his NFL niche will be SS or OLB in a Cover 2.
                    I think there's a possibility of him making the switch. The problem is that it seems like he has maxed out his size, and I think that teams would prefer him to gain 10-20 lbs. to play LB. I think he can be a Larry Izzo-type Pro Bowler on special teams though, even if he doesn't fit great at either safety or LB in the pros.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TitanHope View Post
                      This has been questioned before, but what are the chances Zbikowski plays OLB in a Cover 2 defense? I don't pay much attention to ND, but it seems to be a consesus opinion that 'Z is a great tackler and poor in coverage. Not to mention, players like Cato June have transferred into LB in the NFL pretty nicely. I'm assuming his NFL niche will be SS or OLB in a Cover 2.
                      Not a great tackler, a great hitter, not a great tackler. He's wrapped up a little better this year but still needs to focus on taking the guy down rather than hitting him as hard as possible. Still needs to work on his Angles to ball carriers too.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by IrishBrowns View Post
                        please go watch one of the best returners in the NFL....Josh Cribbs....almost identical return style as Tommy Z
                        This was just funny to me because of your user name. Cribbs is an awesome return man though.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BUTerriers View Post
                          I think there's a possibility of him making the switch. The problem is that it seems like he has maxed out his size, and I think that teams would prefer him to gain 10-20 lbs. to play LB. I think he can be a Larry Izzo-type Pro Bowler on special teams though, even if he doesn't fit great at either safety or LB in the pros.
                          I don't think he has maxed out his size. I just don't know who his speed will be effected by weight gain. I believe he put on weight for his pro boxing match last year.

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                          • #14
                            He's got good physical tools but I think he drops like a rock on draft day. Similar situation to guys like Darnell Bing, Brandon Bowner, Greg Blue, or he gets drafted on day one and becomes a guy like Lamont Thompson, great size and tools but too inconsistent and gets burned way to much to be a reliable starter.

                            You can get away with 4.5 speed at safety. But you CANNOT get away with taking inconsistent angles. The NFL is all about taking proper angles the ball carrier, unless you have unreal speed people in the NFL are just too fast.

                            He is going to have to be put in a system where he can either be an in-the box safety or maybe the situational extra DB in big-nickel packages so he can play a position closer to the line covering short zone and stopping the run.

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                            • #15
                              I love his attitude, intensity, and toughness. He is the type of guy you want on your team, however, he is kind of like a poor mans Roy Williams. Where, he is an excellent tackler, but awful coverage man. I predict he will be picked in the 3rd-4th round range and make an excellent special teamer and depending on the scheme a solid safety (possibly starting, but more than likely a special package player, maybe a nickel specialist like Brodney Pool and Leon Williams have been for the browns).

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