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    What are the thoughts on Louis Holmes the DE from Arizona? Based on what I’ve seen and read, he’s physically impressive and athletically gifted. One commentator said that if players were picked by what they looked like getting off the bus, Holmes would be a first rounder. Problem being he just hasn’t lived up to his gifts to this point and had some off the field issues. That about right? I have him down as going somewhere between 4th and 5th round. What are the chances of him making an impact in the NFL? Also, is he really 6’6”? I see some sites have him listed at 6’4”. And when I watch him play he looks closer to 6’4” than 6’6”.

    Also, what are the thoughts on Eric Foster the DE from Rutgers?

    Thanks in advance for the info.

  • #2
    Eric Foster is a complete animal who is just simply amazing. AMAZING motor and work ethic along with top notch leadership. Sheds blockers exceptionally well with very good speed for a Dlineman. no off the field issues either. just a bit undersized.
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    BTW, if it's 3rd and 97... I'm throwing a screen pass to Brian Leonard and he will convert.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by scottyboy View Post
      Eric Foster is a complete animal who is just simply amazing. AMAZING motor and work ethic along with top notch leadership. Sheds blockers exceptionally well with very good speed for a Dlineman. no off the field issues either. just a bit undersized.
      I haven't watched many Rutger games. But I saw Ruters versus Pitt. I might be mistaken but didn't Foster give Otah some problems in that game?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by KaneMarko View Post
        I haven't watched many Rutger games. But I saw Ruters versus Pitt. I might be mistaken but didn't Foster give Otah some problems in that game?
        yea, and i was actually a bit surprised how much trouble he gave him. Showed Foster's excellent quickness. He's a late round pick(4-6) because his size will cause him to change position to either DE or ILB(in a 3-4) in the NFL.

        He's wreaked havoc in every game this year, but his emotional support and leadership is top notch. Many people talk about leaders entering the NFL, this guy is one helluva leader.
        We ALL bleed scarlet
        New York Giants Super Bowl 46 Champs
        UNITED: I actually attend the college I root for
        Originally posted by PalmerToCJ
        BTW, if it's 3rd and 97... I'm throwing a screen pass to Brian Leonard and he will convert.

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        • #5
          I think Foster will play LDE in the NFL. I wouldn't mind having him on the Bucs as a rotational player, mostly on 1st and 2nd down.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by scottyboy View Post
            yea, and i was actually a bit surprised how much trouble he gave him. Showed Foster's excellent quickness. He's a late round pick(4-6) because his size will cause him to change position to either DE or ILB(in a 3-4) in the NFL.

            He's wreaked havoc in every game this year, but his emotional support and leadership is top notch. Many people talk about leaders entering the NFL, this guy is one helluva leader.

            Yeah, I had read somewhere he was a pretty strong leader. Every team needs guys like him.

            My Chiefs are probably in need of a 3rd edge rusher. Jared Allen is a pro-bowler. Tamba has been hurt all year but is a young ascending pass rusher. But we really don’t have much behind them in the pass rushing defensive end department. So I thought Holmes or Foster might be good prospects to look at in the middle/mid-late rounds.

            Holmes doesn’t have Fosters’ numbers tho. But it looks and sounds like whatever Foster lacks in physicality he more than makes up for in hustle and relentlessness and leadership.

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            • #7
              Foster isn't near athletic enough to move to linebacker..I think if your looking for a pretty good comparison for Foster, I'd look at Raheem Brock. He was around the same size when he came into the league, and had versatility to play DE or DT (which Foster played at RU).

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Travis 24 View Post
                Foster isn't near athletic enough to move to linebacker..I think if your looking for a pretty good comparison for Foster, I'd look at Raheem Brock. He was around the same size when he came into the league, and had versatility to play DE or DT (which Foster played at RU).
                You seriously don't think Foster could play Buck ILB? He'd be an excellent fit there with his motor and block shedding ability.

                His best fit is where etk said, at LDE as a situational player. I'd love him on the giants to groom when strahan retires to be our 4th guy in "4 Aces"
                We ALL bleed scarlet
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                Originally posted by PalmerToCJ
                BTW, if it's 3rd and 97... I'm throwing a screen pass to Brian Leonard and he will convert.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Travis 24 View Post
                  Foster isn't near athletic enough to move to linebacker..I think if your looking for a pretty good comparison for Foster, I'd look at Raheem Brock. He was around the same size when he came into the league, and had versatility to play DE or DT (which Foster played at RU).
                  if LeVon Kirkland could play LB than Eric Foster definately can

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                  • #10
                    ...Why would you draft a guy who has played defensive tackle..and move him to middle linebacker? No, it wouldn't work...No one knows how well the guy moves in space, or reading a play from 3-5 yards off the line of scrimmage. He sheds blocks well because he has a quick first step...He is so much better off on the line.

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                    • #11
                      I didn't like what i saw from Holmes when i saw him play. He looked unmotivated, and was pushed around easily and away from the play during runs. He also didn't look like he had too many pass rush moves.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Travis 24 View Post
                        ...Why would you draft a guy who has played defensive tackle..and move him to middle linebacker? No, it wouldn't work...No one knows how well the guy moves in space, or reading a play from 3-5 yards off the line of scrimmage. He sheds blocks well because he has a quick first step...He is so much better off on the line.
                        do you actually watch rutgers games or just talk about them? You move him because he's undersized. No one will know how well he'll move in space? are you ******* serious? Do you watch the games? for real? please stop talking about RU, it's embarassing...
                        We ALL bleed scarlet
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                        Originally posted by PalmerToCJ
                        BTW, if it's 3rd and 97... I'm throwing a screen pass to Brian Leonard and he will convert.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by genom View Post
                          I didn't like what i saw from Holmes when i saw him play. He looked unmotivated, and was pushed around easily and away from the play during runs. He also didn't look like he had too many pass rush moves.
                          That's one of the biggest things I kinda noticed with Holmes in that he doesn't have a huge array of pass rush moves and that he may rely on his physical gifts way too much. But I thought maybe if the right team drafted him and worked with him maybe he could learn what he needs to learn in order to become an effective NFL DE. Based on what I've seen and read of him the physical tools are there in abundance. It's just the other side of the game that is holding him back.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by scottyboy View Post
                            do you actually watch rutgers games or just talk about them? You move him because he's undersized. No one will know how well he'll move in space? are you ******* serious? Do you watch the games? for real? please stop talking about RU, it's embarassing...
                            LOL...This board is ridiculous. I've never seen so many ******** things said in here...Undersized?...the guy is 6'2" 260-270 lbs, how in the hell is that under sized???...and I'm not sure how you expect a guy who has been playing on the interior of the defensive line, to suddenly move to linebacker...How often have you seen Foster drop back in coverage, or actually have to read into the backfield?...almost never? Exactly...thats like drafting James Hardy and moving him to TE because he's big.

                            Its not Madden 2008 or anything like that..sorry..

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Travis 24 View Post
                              LOL...This board is ridiculous. I've never seen so many ******** things said in here...Undersized?...the guy is 6'2" 260-270 lbs, how in the hell is that under sized???...and I'm not sure how you expect a guy who has been playing on the interior of the defensive line, to suddenly move to linebacker...How often have you seen Foster drop back in coverage, or actually have to read into the backfield?...almost never? Exactly...thats like drafting James Hardy and moving him to TE because he's big.

                              Its not Madden 2008 or anything like that..sorry..
                              You do realize NFL scouts have been mentioning the move to MLB for Eric Foster for nearly 2 years now right?

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