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  • Looks like a FS, Quacks like a FS..

    Did Malcom Jenkins make himself a FS today? He ran a 4.55 (not expecting much but thats not a top 5er) and had an average showing in drills.

    Im not saying he cant play CB, just asking if you think he accidentilly proved he should be a Probowl FS.
    I want a sig.

  • #2
    wow! Even Vontae Davis ran faster in the 4.49 range.

    Jesus, what did I tell you guys, this draft list of elites is getting shorter and shorter as this process goes on.

    Thanks God I found out that Rey ran a 4.77 today or I would have jumped off the Poplar Street Bridge (bridge between St.Louis and East St.Louis over the Mississippi).

    So I guess that means Davis is the elite CB? Wow! I thought Jenkins was a shoe in for a 4.45-49 range. I guess he could move to FS.

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    • #3
      Davis was a lock to run faster than Jenkins...

      Jenkins still performed great at all the other drills. He's still number one and a top 10 or so pick

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      • #4
        If I said two days ago that Jenkins would run the same 40 as Alphonso Smith, a faster 40 than DJ Moore and would be only .02 slower than Captain Munnerlyn people would be all over him as an elite corner. Well he did, and nobody is talking about those guys not having the speed to play corner in the NFL so I don't know why ppl are doing that to Jenkins.
        10 Favourite prospects for 2010: Colt McCoy, Dez Bryant, Golden Tate, Noel Devine, Ndamukong Suh, Greg Hardy, Eric Norwood, Travis Lewis, Eric Berry, Trevard Lindley

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        • #5
          Not every corner has to run a 4.3 guys. Al Harris, Chris McAllister, and Nate Clements are all Pro Bowl corners very much in the mold of Jenkins. He's still a top corner prospect for a Cover 2 team as well.

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          • #6
            Brandon Flowers ran a 4.58 at the combine last year, and he's small, but he still managed to have a really good season as one of the best rookie CBs last year. Anybody know why that is? Al Harris has lost a step about four times since he was at his peak, and is still a pretty fine cornerback, anybody know why that is?

            Instincts, vision, aggressiveness, savvy, and technique can make up for a lot for a CB. If we go just on "speed", there's no way that Al Harris should be able to cover Calvin Johnson (using this example because Al is slow, Calvin is fast, and we have a lot of data on Harris vs. Johnson). However, Harris does a pretty good job covering Johnson. Why is that? Because Harris uses technique, smarts, savvy, and aggression to make it so that he never has to run with Johnson. If he has to run with Johnson, he's already lost because Calvin Johnson is very fast indeed. But if you can keep the guy from opening up because you know how to play CB, this isn't usually an issue.

            So you need a 4.4 or a 4.3 guy to run with the NFL's fastest receivers, but you don't need to run with the fastest receivers if you play otherwise good defense. There are techniques available to CBs that are not just "try to run as fast as the other guy" and schemes will vary in terms of what they ask the CBs to do. If you're running a defense where you need 4.3 CBs to cover 4.3 WRs, you probably don't want Jenkins, but that's a pretty strange defense to be running anyway. Other people might well be encouraged to watch his tape, which definitely shows that he is able to play cornerback.

            Not all DBs need to be track stars after all. The buzz is going to be that he's a FS now, but the team that picks him will be picking him with the intent of trying him out at CB.

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            • #7
              keep in mind too that Lucas Oil looks like it's a slower track than the RCA Dome was - which was a notoriously fast surface to run on. No corners or backs in under 4.4, hardly any under 4.45? Something fishy about that.

              That said, I think most teams will look at Jenkins as a free safety at this point on if they haven't already.

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              • #8
                I think he can play both, but I still see him as a CB.

                I just think it is a slow track.

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                • #9
                  I agree. I think top 5 is out of the window though nonetheless.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by keylime_5 View Post
                    I agree. I think top 5 is out of the window though nonetheless.
                    That's just fine. Denver will happily wait for him to fall to 12.

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                    • #11
                      I wouldn't mind seeing him playing with AJ Hawk again in Green Bay...

                      ...or in San Fran with Nate Clements.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Diehard View Post
                        That's just fine. Denver will happily wait for him to fall to 12.
                        So, if I'm reading Broncos fans correctly, Denver will be drafting Raji, Maualuga, and Jenkins in the first round. I admit that will be a very impressive draft ;).

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                        • #13
                          Might be the case, but Malcolm doesnt 'look', or 'quack' like a FS...

                          All Pro Cornerback is more like it.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by PossibleCabbage View Post
                            So, if I'm reading Broncos fans correctly, Denver will be drafting Raji, Maualuga, and Jenkins in the first round. I admit that will be a very impressive draft ;).
                            LOL. Raji is the dream that won't happen (though I thought the same about Clady last year).

                            I don't see Rey fitting in with the new coaching staff - they've said outright they're looking for smart, disciplined football players (rather than immature hotheads).

                            With needs at both CB and FS, Jenkins would definitely help and would be damn good value at 12... and it is starting to look like it could be a possibility.

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                            • #15
                              if ryan mouton ran a 4.54...theres something wrong

                              there seems to be something fishy about the times this year. nearly everyone ran slower than expected...by ALOT

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