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  • The Percy Harvin Debate

    I didnt see any threads on this on the first two pages and I feel like this is a legitimate topic for debate leading into the draft.

    Which position do you think Harvin should primarily play and be considered for the draft, RB or WR?

    I feel like hes a definite tweener that should work more out of the backfield in single back and spread formations while also seeing some WR time in these formations and should be mostly out wide when the other team has a lot of backers on the field. You dont want him running into heavy defensive fronts because of his smaller frame.

    His role will be something of a Warrick/Bush like player at the next level.

    I feel like his best fit would be on the Patriots if they continue their spread ways next year. A more wide open offense like that plays to his strengths in my opinion.

    Thoughts?
    Originally posted by Thumper/JBCX/Bixby
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  • #2
    He reminds me of a Matt Jones kind of player (in terms of pre-draft projection). Just an athlete and you really don't know where to put him, and a lot of his success will be decided by what team takes him. All I know is you want the ball in his hands.

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    • #3
      If he plays running back, then the chances of him getting hurt on a consistent basis(knowing that he already does) will skyrocket. While, if he is used as a wide receiver, then he should be productive, while at the same time, not taking as many big or possibly injury causing hits.

      I think with a guy like Harvin, who has all the talent in the world, but just can't stay healthy, you have to be very cautious and safe with him.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Larry121283 View Post
        He reminds me of a Matt Jones kind of player (in terms of pre-draft projection).
        Matt Jones is quite a bit bigger, I'm thinking more along the lines of Devin Hester (as he has better football speed than timed speed, and his best assets are his change of direction, acceleration, and elusiveness).

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        • #5
          Devin Hester and Peter Warrick are probably the best two comparisons, especially Hester. Hes similar as a WR too in that hes gunna need to work on his routes but that hes fast and is special with the ball in his hands.

          And I think he meant Matt Jones = Harvin because theyre both very athletic but dont really have a definite position.
          Originally posted by Thumper/JBCX/Bixby
          Orton will never be in the same class as the Drew Brees or the Peyton Mannings or the Tom Bradys of the world. Kevin Kolb has the potential to be that kind of player.

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          • #6
            I was very impressed by his route running at the combine from what I saw. I think he can play WR, maybe line him up in the back field and use him like Reggie Bush sometimes.


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            • #7
              He be a punt and kick returner...a slot receiver...a wild cat guy...a running back and a deep threat


              But mostly a slot reciever


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              • #8
                Devin Hester couldn't nail down a position at Miami because he wasn't consistent enough as a WR and didn't cover well as a CB.

                If you've followed Percy Harvin's career, he's being seriously underestimated as an NFL prospect.

                To get the best production out of him, I'd keep him at WR, with the ability to line up in various formations and carry the ball in the wildcat.

                The player he reminds me of most is Santana Moss; similar size, speed, and playmaking ability.

                He's a top 15 talent and his injuries are overblown from what I've seen.

                Matt Jones is a bad comparison because it suggests Harvin is just an athlete, not a skilled football player.

                Urban Meyer was greedy and tried to use Harvin all over the offense because he was so talented, instead of allowing him to concentrate solely on catching the ball.

                Whoever drafts him will get Joey Galloway/Santana Moss type receiver with KR ability.

                You pair him with a big possession wideout and he'll be devastating.

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                • #9
                  Below is a small scouting report type thing I just actually wrote in my Rankings thread. I copied and pasted it here...

                  Percy Harvin - 5'11 1/8 - 192 - 4.41

                  - Harvin is a somewhat confusing prospect and you could really make an argument against him: his playing style, his durability, or even the track record of Florida WR's. He also has it in his head that he's the best and can rub some people the wrong way. What you can't make an argument about is his raw talent, athleticism, and that he's flat out, a very good football player.

                  I cannot claim to know how Harvin will be used at the next level really, but I'm confident that talent will prevail and he'll be able to have a good NFL career. He's undersized, but not short or frail. He runs tough after the catch and with the ball in his hands. He has explosive athletic ability and relatively untapped potential as a Punt Returner/Kick Returner. He shows remarkable short-area quickness, elusiveness in space, and breakaway speed in addition to very solid hands, crisp routes (though he has not been asked to run a full route tree), and the will & toughness to put his nose down and get that extra yard.

                  He is an extremely talented athlete that may be asked to do a number of things at the next level. He could conceivably be the league's top all-purpose player with capabilities at WR/PR/KR/RB and would be ideal for a team that wants to run a "Wildcat" from time to time. He has so much value everywhere. In my opinion a better prospect than both DeSean Jackson or Eddie Royal, both of whom made big impacts in their rookie year's. There is just so much he can do and so much overall versatility. I see his best fit as a #2 WR, Punt Returner, and a potential terror on end-arounds or from the wild-cat. More of an ATH prospect than WR, but still has some very good tools for the Wide Receiver position.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JBond93 View Post
                    I was very impressed by his route running at the combine from what I saw. I think he can play WR, maybe line him up in the back field and use him like Reggie Bush sometimes.
                    See, I see him as the opposite of Bush.

                    Reggie is a RB - Slot
                    Percy is a Slot - RB type IMO.

                    Very similar, but at opposite ends of the spectrum - if that makes sense.




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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by CJSchneider View Post
                      See, I see him as the opposite of Bush.

                      Reggie is a RB - Slot
                      Percy is a Slot - RB type IMO.

                      Very similar, but at opposite ends of the spectrum - if that makes sense.
                      Ummm, alright. I feel that means they can do many similar things.


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                      • #12
                        Harvin is slowly but surely growing on me. I believee he can be a successful WR in the NFL...well, I don't fully believe that yet, but I'm getting there
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                        • #13
                          I think he def. can, I just think he will get injured before he does.


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                          • #14
                            Harvin is one of my favorite players of this Draft class. (After Rey Maualuga, Fight On)

                            I don't feel as though his potential should be wasted by a coaching staff attempting to make him a "Reggie Bush" type of back.

                            I think he would be better served lining up at WR. He would be very difficult for any team to cover from the slot. But i can also see him eventually becoming an excellent number 1 receiver given time to adjust to the pro game.

                            He's a competitor with speed, quickness, hand eye coordination and fluid athleticism that one can't be "coached up" to have,...you've got to be born with it.



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                            • #15
                              He'll definately be successful, at some aspect of the game, even if its just as a returner. But does anyone think he'll be a head-case and not worth the hassle of drafting him, or are his mental/work ethic issues overrated?

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