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    Most mocks, including mine has him going to a 3-4 to play olb but I'm starting to think that a 4-3 slb/nickel r.e. role ala Brian Orakapo his fisrt season is a much better fit. He's a bit small for the 3-4 olb role and will become a liability in the run game not to mention that a large number of 3-4 teams come from the bellichek tree which requires bigger than usual olb's. To me he's a viable option for detriot if quinn, bowers, peterson and amukamara are gone....he could play olb immediatly and I would use him to blitz more often than normal olbs of course but he is also very good in coverage to mix it up. He could also put his hand in the dirt as.a r.e. in nickel/dime/passing situations to bring some serious heat and give the l.t. a new look. He would be perfect for teams like Detriot or N.O. cause they both need help at olb and r.e.

    Dontay Moch would be better in this role as well imho.
    Last edited by roscoesdad27; 01-05-2011, 08:34 AM.

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    id like him in a lance briggs role more than a 34OLB
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    • #3
      I really only see him as a situational player at the next level. I think he will really struggle to be a 3 down player in any system. He probably doesn't have the functional strength to set the edge in the running game in the 34, Im not sure he could handle taking NFL OTs on straight up in the 43 at DE and he doesn't have the coverage abilities to be a full time starter in a 43 at OLB.

      The two players I would mostly compare Von Miller to are Tully Banta-Cain and Everette Brown


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      • #4
        Originally posted by AntoinCD View Post
        I really only see him as a situational player at the next level. I think he will really struggle to be a 3 down player in any system. He probably doesn't have the functional strength to set the edge in the running game in the 34, Im not sure he could handle taking NFL OTs on straight up in the 43 at DE and he doesn't have the coverage abilities to be a full time starter in a 43 at OLB.

        The two players I would mostly compare Von Miller to are Tully Banta-Cain and Everette Brown
        You're underestimating his footspeed. I'll bet he runs a 4.55 or so. He reminds me of a Jon Beason/Ernie Sims type of 4-3 olb. We'll have to see if he has their instincts. But, his game against Oklahoma this year was the best I've seen all year. From any defender. Not just a lb. He was hurt early in the year and that's why his stats are off. TBC and E. Brown are 4.8/4.9 olb/de types in a 3-4. Miller is much faster.

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        • #5
          He's an overrated one trick pony.
          Never underestimate the power of small minds in large groups.

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          • #6
            I love him as a 4-3 OLB. I'm not convinced that his pass rushing abilities off the edge will translate to the NFL. He's already a bit undersized for the position he lacks counter moves and only has speed and doesn't have the power to set up a good speed rush. I think he would hard time setting the edge in the run game too. But in the 4-3, he could use his speed and explosiveness to fly sideline to sideline. His size would be just right for the position. He hasn't look out of place at all when they ask him to drop in coverage. He might not be the best at taking on blocks compared to other DE/OLB types but would be above average compared to other WLB's. I can't help but think that he would be an excellent blitzer . Put him in as a WILL in a 4-3 team the likes to blitz wand he will thrive.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by 1funguy View Post
              He's an overrated one trick pony.
              - you ignorant fool.
              Von Miller will eat you alive..
              Every single team in the NFL needs an energetic, off the bench, game changing pass rusher.
              He's a leader, players follow his lead and his energy is infectious.
              He reminds me a lot of Terrell Suggs, who as we all know, does work.
              Millers been hitting the weight room hard and will show up to the combine at 255+... I expect him to run a 4.7.. Late first/early second.
              He's great
              GO RAVENS

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              • #8
                Not in Detroit to much of a project for a outside linebacker in the 4-3 and a bit weak for end. The Lions need a immediate impact at OLB.

                "God only put one pair of feet like that on a human being."
                - Fritz Shurmur, Defensive Coordinator, Green Bay Packers

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ShoeLB50 View Post
                  Not in Detroit to much of a project for a outside linebacker in the 4-3 and a bit weak for end. The Lions need a immediate impact at OLB.
                  I think he's built idealy for the 4-3 olb spot....and yes he is to weak to play standard d.e. In base packages but he would be an ideal r.e. In passing situations...normally when a nickel corner comes in 1 of the olb's goes to the sideline....in this case a d.e. would go to the sideline with miller putting his hand in the dirt, leaving more speed on the field....his value might not be right for pick 13 but this is his ideal role and it seems like a fit with you guys needing help at olb and r.e.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by roscoesdad27 View Post
                    I think he's built idealy for the 4-3 olb spot....and yes he is to weak to play standard d.e. In base packages but he would be an ideal r.e. In passing situations...normally when a nickel corner comes in 1 of the olb's goes to the sideline....in this case a d.e. would go to the sideline with miller putting his hand in the dirt, leaving more speed on the field....his value might not be right for pick 13 but this is his ideal role and it seems like a fit with you guys needing help at olb and r.e.
                    Who do you like better in that role, Akeem Ayers or Von Miller? Both sound like good fits to take over for Julian Peterson at SLB.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by GoRavens View Post
                      - you ignorant fool.
                      Von Miller will eat you alive..
                      Every single team in the NFL needs an energetic, off the bench, game changing pass rusher.
                      He's a leader, players follow his lead and his energy is infectious.
                      He reminds me a lot of Terrell Suggs, who as we all know, does work.
                      Millers been hitting the weight room hard and will show up to the combine at 255+... I expect him to run a 4.7.. Late first/early second.
                      He's great
                      Well thanks for the first sentence.

                      You have your opinion, I'll maintain mine. If you'd like to be a tough guy to my face, I'm likely not far away if you're a local Ravens' fan.

                      Have a nice day, dikhed.
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                      • #12
                        I don't see the Lions looking to a guy that hasn't played the position before. I can at least see Ayers but Von has never done anything significant but rush from OLB. I honestly don't think they are looking for Petersons replacement as much as a OLB who can cover someone in the passing game. Its not like they need a Derrick Brooks type but maybe a Mason Foster would work. Von Miller NO. Maybe he can do it but if so it'll be the Lawrence Timmons path to it with time to develop.

                        "God only put one pair of feet like that on a human being."
                        - Fritz Shurmur, Defensive Coordinator, Green Bay Packers

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                        • #13
                          Ayers is a better pure olb but I like von's versatility and how they match your team needs....he's also better in coverage than credited for. He would have the same role as brian orakpo did his first year before washington switched to the 3-4. New Orleans could be a landing spot for him as well. Dontay Moch is very similiar and could possibly be had in round 2 if you like the idea but not the value at 13.

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                          • #14
                            Where do you put speed rushers who have good coverage instincts?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 1funguy View Post
                              Well thanks for the first sentence.

                              You have your opinion, I'll maintain mine. If you'd like to be a tough guy to my face, I'm likely not far away if you're a local Ravens' fan.

                              Have a nice day, dikhed.
                              LOL

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