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  • The Overrated / Underrated Prospect Thread

    So... Whoís overrated/underrated in this yearís draft? Iíll go first:

    Overrated

    Mark Ingram: A fine RB prospect but doesnít possess any elite physical tools. A late first rounder, but not a top 15 player.

    Anthony Costanzo: Has all the tools you like for in a tackle (although strength is a questionmark), but just doesnít put it together on the field. He can be beat around the edge or bullrushed (Iíve seen him bullrushed by Steven Friday). First rounder on paper, not when you look at him play.

    Akeem Ayers: Typical case of Ēlooks like Tarzan, plays like JaneĒ. His physical tools will have GMs and coaches drooling, but imo heís not worthy of a first round pick.

    Blaine Gabbert: Top 5, really? No way. I wouldnít touch this guy in the first round, although he does have a lot of upside.

    Jonathan Baldwin: Speed/size ratio doesnít mean much in the NFL if you canít run NFL routes. 3rd round player, but will be selected higher due to his upside. Supreme boom or bust prospect.

    Jeff Maehl: Might not have great physical tools, but he has great route running ability and top notch intangibles.

    Cam Newton: What can I say that hasnít been said already?

    Underrated:

    Cam Jordan: Could go as high as Alualu and is just as good a prospect at this point imo.

    Stephen Paea: This guy should be included in the top 15-20 conversation.

    Christian Ponder: Didnít have a great season but has the tools and intangibles to be a succesfuld NFL QB.

    Michael Floyd: Injuries are a concern, but when healthy this guy is a top receiver.

    Originally posted by ElectricEye
    I'm a whiny little kunt. Feel sorry for me as I go masturbate to a picture of my mom dressed as a teletubby.

  • #2
    Overrated Quarterbacks:

    - Virtually all of them


    Underrated Quarterbacks:

    - Pat Devlin

    - T.J. Yates




    Overrated Running Backs:

    - Ryan Williams


    Underrated Running Backs:

    - Delone Carter

    - Kendall Hunter



    Overrated Wide Receivers:

    - Jonathan Baldwin

    - Greg Little


    Underrated Wide Receivers:

    - Denarius Moore

    - Randall Cobb

    - Jimmy Young

    - Kris Adams

    - Kealoha Pilares

    - Frantrell Forrest

    - Vincent Brown



    Overrated Tight Ends:

    - Zack Pianalto

    - Charlie Gantt


    Underrated Tight Ends:

    - Jeff Anderson

    - Virgil Green

    - Cameron Graham



    Overrated Tackles:

    - Nate Solder

    - Anthony Castonzo


    Underrated Tackles:

    - Lee Ziemba

    - Darius Morris



    Overrated Guards/Centers:

    - Stefen Wisniewski


    Underrated Guards/Centers:

    - Ryan Bartholomew

    - Matt Allen



    Overrated Defensive Ends:

    - Da'Quan Bowers


    Underrated Defensive Ends:

    - Pernell McPhee

    - Sam Acho



    Overrated Defensive Tackles:

    - Christian Ballard

    - Marvin Austin


    Underrated Defensive Tackles:

    - Phil Taylor

    - Corey Liuget

    - Chris Neild



    Overrated Outside/Inside Linebackers:

    - Akeem Ayers

    - Greg Jones

    - Mike Mohammed

    - Josh Bynes


    Underrated Outside/Inside Linebackers:

    - Adrian Moten

    - K.J. Wright

    - Ross Homan

    - Chris White

    - Justin Springer




    Overrated Cornerbacks:

    - Ras-I Dowling


    Underrated Cornerbacks:

    - Johnny Patrick

    - Davon House



    Overrated Safeties:

    - DeAndre McDaniel

    - Rahim Moore


    Underrated Safeties:

    - Joe Lafeged

    - Duke Ihenacho

    - Tejay Johnson

    - Jaiquan Jarrett

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Razor View Post
      Underrated:

      Cam Jordan: Could go as high as Alualu and is just as good a prospect at this point imo.

      Stephen Paea: This guy should be included in the top 15-20 conversation.

      Christian Ponder: Didnít have a great season but has the tools and intangibles to be a succesfuld NFL QB.

      Michael Floyd: Injuries are a concern, but when healthy this guy is a top receiver.
      Yes, Yes, NO, NO. I don't think Ponder or Floyd are overrated either. I think given their talent/risk their value is actually more often than not where it should be.

      Some of mine:

      Overrated (totally agree with Baldwin and Ayers previously posted so I won't repost):

      1. All "Big 4" QBs - There are things I like and dislike about all of the big 4 QBs this year but I don't think that any of them are really top 5-10 talent. They all have their own different types of risk/weaknesses in their game. Thats not to say that none of them won't be successful because chances are at least 2 of them will be. But, when we start talking about the guaranteed money for top 10 drafted players, none of these 4 qbs give me the reassurance that guys like Matt Ryan, Stafford, Sanchez, Manning, Rivers, etc had coming out.

      2. Nate Solder - fine prospect but extremely raw

      3. Allen Bailey - not as impressive as a lot of the other 1st round prospects at his position. lacks a great burst off the line and doesnt take great angles. production doesnt match athleticism.

      4. Aldon Smith - a ton of upside but still has a lot to learn/improve with his game, especially learning to work in space and improving against the run.

      Underrated:

      Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin
      Marcell Dareus, DL, Alabama
      Greg Little, WR, UNC
      Kenny Tate, FS, MD (homer pick)

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      • #4
        I agree with a lot that has been posted in this thread. All of the quarterbacks are overrated. Now that Luck has gone back to school, there isn't a quarterback in this draft class worthy of a top ten pick. Mark Ingram is pretty overrated too. He's good at everything, but not "special" at anything.

        I think Cameron Jordan and Drake Nevis are both underrated right now.

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        • #5
          OVERRATED

          QB Cam Newton
          QB Blaine Gabbert
          RB Mark Ingram
          RB Ryan Williams
          WR Jon Baldwin
          OT Anthony Castonzo
          DE Allen Bailey
          LB Akeem Ayers (This one hurts, since I was very high on him before some really disappointing games this year.)
          DT Marvin Austin

          UNDERRATED

          WR Michael Floyd
          WR Jerrell Jernigan
          RB DeMarco Murray
          CB Jimmy Smith
          DT Stephen Paea
          DE Cam Jordan
          Originally posted by Mr. Goosemahn
          The APS is strong in this one.
          Originally posted by killxswitch
          Tears for Fears is better than whatever it is you happen to be thinking about right now.

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          • #6
            i think marvin austin is kinda getting underrated at this point
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            • #7
              Originally posted by K Train View Post
              i think marvin austin is kinda getting underrated at this point
              To me he's an UDFA at this point.

              Originally posted by ElectricEye
              I'm a whiny little kunt. Feel sorry for me as I go masturbate to a picture of my mom dressed as a teletubby.

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              • #8
                Overrated
                QB Blaine Gabbert - Missouri
                DE Adrian Clayborn - Iowa
                LB Greg Jones - Michigan State
                TE D.J. Williams - Arkansas
                LB Bruce Carter - North Carolina
                DE Aldon Smith - Missouri
                WR Jonathan Baldwin - Pittsburgh
                C/OG Rodney Hudson - Florida State
                DT Marvin Austin - North Carolina

                Underrated
                DE Ryan Kerrigan - Purdue
                DE J.J. Watt - Wisconsin
                OG Keith Williams - Nebraska
                OL Danny Watkins - Baylor
                WR Randall Cobb - Kentucky*
                CB Jimmy Smith - Colorado
                LB Mason Foster - Washington
                LB Quan Sturdivant - North Carolina
                LB Justin Houston - Georgia
                TE Lance Kendricks - Wisconsin

                big props to BoneKrusher for the sig & avatar
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                www.twitter.com/ryanlownes

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by A Perfect Score View Post
                  OVERRATED

                  QB Cam Newton
                  QB Blaine Gabbert
                  RB Mark Ingram
                  RB Ryan Williams
                  WR Jon Baldwin
                  OT Anthony Castonzo
                  DE Allen Bailey
                  LB Akeem Ayers (This one hurts, since I was very high on him before some really disappointing games this year.)
                  DT Marvin Austin

                  UNDERRATED

                  WR Michael Floyd
                  WR Jerrell Jernigan
                  RB DeMarco Murray
                  CB Jimmy Smith
                  DT Stephen Paea
                  DE Cam Jordan
                  Love this list although i'm not sure that Stephen Paea (late 1st,early 2nd) or Cam Jordan (mid to late 1st) arent about right.

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                  • #10
                    I think Cam Jordan is a legit Top 10 prospect and the best 5 tech in this class. I think Paea is the #2 4-3 DT after Fairley, he's going to be a monster as well.
                    Originally posted by Mr. Goosemahn
                    The APS is strong in this one.
                    Originally posted by killxswitch
                    Tears for Fears is better than whatever it is you happen to be thinking about right now.

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                    • #11
                      Well since APS and ThePudge stole most of my guys, I guess I'll have to be more selective. I'll include some repeats of guys I feel strongly about.

                      OVERRATED
                      Blaine Gabbert, Missouri
                      Mike Pouncey, Florida
                      Von Miller, Texas A&M (as a 3-4 OLB)
                      Akeem Ayers, UCLA
                      Derek Sherrod , Mississippi State
                      Nate Solder, Colorado


                      UNDERRATED

                      Mason Foster, Washington
                      JJ Watt, Wisconsin
                      Randall Cobb, Kentucky
                      Jimmy Smith, Colorado
                      Brandon Hogan, West Virginia
                      Titus Young, Boise State
                      Tim Barnes, Missouri
                      Ras-I Dowling, Virginia
                      Dwayne Harris, ECU
                      Last edited by TACKLE; 01-26-2011, 02:52 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Mason Foster, underrated.
                        Originally posted by njx9
                        i mean, why wouldn't the broncos take cam newton? they can play him at quarterback WITH tebow!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by A Perfect Score View Post
                          I think Cam Jordan is a legit Top 10 prospect and the best 5 tech in this class. I think Paea is the #2 4-3 DT after Fairley, he's going to be a monster as well.
                          JJ Watt says hi. Their both ballers though.

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                          • #14
                            Everyone keeps saying Castonzo is overrated, but he isn't a lock to be the top OT in this class, and is not even top 10 talk. People keep mocking Tyron Smith to the Cowboys at 9...That is overrated. Castonzo might not ever be an elite OT, but I think he could honestly step in possibly as a rook, if not after one year and lock down one side of the line for a long time. Kind of a like a Mark Tausher / Clifton for the Pack. They don't always garner all the accolades, but they get it doen week in and out and are solid. He has a BC pedigree, has the size but could use a little bulk, smart, but just needs some more strength. You can't teach size, intangibles, but CAN work on strength.

                            I think Newton, Gabbert, Pouncey and Solder are very overrated.

                            I think Christian Ponder, Jake Locker, Gabe Carimi are three prospects who are being very underrated right now

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by TACKLE View Post
                              OVERRATED
                              Mike Pouncey, Florida
                              as a C or G or both? cause as a C I agree but I do think hes still a stud guard prospect

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