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  • ATL's 2012 Rankings.

    Plan on following this up post draft with a revised edition based on where they end up and how I like the scheme/coach fit.

    QB.
    1. Andrew Luck
    2. Robert Griffin III
    3. Ryan Tannehill
    4. Brandon Weeden
    5. BJ Coleman
    6. Russell Wilson
    7. Kirk Cousins
    8. Brock Osweiler
    9. Ryan Lindley
    10. Nick Foles
    11. Aaron Corp
    12. Austin Davis
    Notes: I’m a big fan of BJ Coleman as a developmental guy. Perfect pick for Denver. Also really like Russell Wilson as a backup for a WCO.

    RB.
    1. Trent Richardson
    2. Lamar Miller
    3. David Wilson
    4. Doug Martin
    5. Isaiah Pead
    6. Robert Turbin
    7. Chris Polk
    8. LaMichael James
    9. Ronnie Hillman
    10. Benard Pierce
    11. Michael Smith
    12. Dan Herron
    13. Taurean Pool
    14. Michael Smith
    15. Vick Ballard
    Notes: Wilson’s running style concerns me to a degree, boom/bust. Miller in ZBS=stud. Pead is going to make an impact as a 3rd down back, early, more later.

    WR.
    1. Justin Blackmon
    2. Kendall Wright
    3. Stephen Hil
    4. Rueben Randle
    5. Michael Floyd
    6. Devon Wylie
    7. Mo Sanu
    8. Alshon Jeffrey
    9. Greg Childs
    10. Joe Adams
    11. Tommy Streeter
    12. Marvin Jones
    13. Ryan Broyles
    14. Chris Givens
    15. AJ Jenkins
    16. Jarius Wright
    17. Brian Quick
    18. TY Hilton
    19. BJ Cunningham
    20. TJ Graham
    Notes: Tried to isolate player/talents as much as possible. Feel as if WRs this year especially are highly dependent on scheme/usage, especially in that middle cluster. (Each ARK receiver brings something different to the table for example.)
    TE.
    1. Coby Fleener
    2. Orson Charles
    3. Dwayne Allen
    4. LaDarius Green
    5. Chase Ford
    6. Michael Egnew
    7. DeAngelo Peterson
    8. James Hanna
    9. Rhett Ellison
    10. Brian Linthicum
    Note: Didn't think it was fair to list the SMU convert (Taylor Thompson)

    OT.
    1. Matt Kalil
    2. Cordy Glenn
    3. Mike Adams
    4. Riley Reiff
    5. Bobbie Massie
    6. Mitchell Schwartz
    7. Jeff Allen
    8. James Brown
    9. Nate Potter
    10. Jonathan Martin
    11. Andrew Datko
    12. James Carmon
    13. Zebrie Sanders
    14. Donald Stephenson
    15. Matt McCants

    Notes: Martin massively overrated. James Brown as a sleeper. Massie’s stock can only go up based on the situation he winds up in. Can stick at LT.

    OG.
    1. David DeCastro
    2. Amini Silatolu
    3. Kelechi Osemele
    4. Brandon Washington
    5. Brandon Brooks
    6. Senio Kelemente
    7. Lucas Nix
    8. Joe Looney
    9. Adam Gettis
    10. Tony Bergstrom
    Notes: Osmele might be able to play OT, but I love him as a G.

    C.
    1. Peter Konz
    2. Kevin Zeilter
    3. Ben Jones
    4. David Molk
    5. Michael Brewster
    6. Quenton Salsberry
    7. Phillip Blake
    8. David Snow
    Notes: If Zeilter can handle it, I like his fit here much better.

    Defense.

    DE.
    1. Quinton Coples
    2. Courtney Upshaw
    3. Melvin Ingram
    4. Nick Perry
    5. Vinny Curry
    6. Chandler Jones
    7. Malik Jackson
    8. Andre Branch
    9. Cam Johnson
    10. Whitney Mercilus
    11. Jack Bequette
    12. Tyrone Crawford (Prefer him as a 34 DE)
    13. Olivier Vernon
    14. Jonathan Massaquoi
    15. Frank Alexander
    Notes: Coples has become massively underrated. In addition to being the best 43 DE in the class, I’d also rank him as the top 43 DT or 34 DE. Kentrall Lockett is a sleeper to keep an eye on.

    34 OLB
    1. Shea McClellin
    2. Melvin Ingram
    3. Bruce Irvin
    4. Courtney Upshaw
    5. Vinny Curry
    6. Ronnell Lewis
    7. Andre Branch
    8. Miles Burris
    9. Whitney Mercilus
    10. Cam Johnson
    11. Brett Roy
    Notes: Tried to project guys who teams might try these guys at OLB/how they’d fit (left off a couple I feel much better suited as 43 players like C. Jones, N. Perry). Ingram’s value comes from being ultimate chess piece. Must have creative DC to get most out of him. Shea is a force. Irvin could have an Aldon Smith like impact.

    DT.
    1. Fletcher Cox
    2. Dontari Poe
    3. Michael Brockers (34 DE)
    4. Alameda Ta’Amu
    5. Devon Still
    6. Josh Chapman
    7. Brandon Thompson
    8. Derek Wolfe (34 DE)
    9. Jerel Worthy
    10. Mike Martin
    11. Jared Crick (34 DE)
    12. Jaye Howard
    13. Kendall Reyes
    14. Billy Wynn (34 DE)
    15. DaJohn Harris
    Notes: Still and Reyes overrated. Ta’Amu beast, best fit 43 NT. If best fit is as 34 DE, see (34 DE)

    MLB.
    1. Luke Kuechly
    2. Mychael Kendricks
    3. Donta Hightower
    4. James Michael Johnson
    5. Vontaze Burfict
    6. Emmanual Acho
    7. Najee Good
    8. Jerry Franklin

    OLB.
    1. Lavonte David
    2. Bobby Wagner
    3. Demario Davis
    4. Sean Spence
    5. Audie Cole
    6. Zach Brown
    7. Terrell Manning
    8. Keenan Robinson
    9. Josh Kaddu
    10. Nigel Bradham
    Notes: Feel as if Wagner is a better fit as an OLB. Demario Davis is a monster. Zach Brown has a lot of desirable qualities, could be good if IDEAL landing spot. Currently a sub par football player

    CB.
    1. Janoris Jenkins
    2. Morris Claiborne
    3. Dre Kirkpatrick
    4. Stephon Gilmore
    5. Brandon Boykin
    6. Truamine Johnson
    7. Josh Robinson
    8. Dwight Bentley
    9. Casey Heyward
    10. Josh Norman
    11. Alonzo Dennard
    12. Jamell Fleming
    13. Leonard Johnson
    14. Jayron Hosely
    15. Chase Minnifield
    16. Coryell Judie
    17. Coty Sensabaugh
    18. Ron Brooks
    19. Ryan Steed
    20. Asa Jackson

    S.
    1. Mark Barron
    2. George Iloka
    3. Harrison Smith
    4. Markelle Martin
    5. Antonio Allen
    6. Janzen Jackson
    7. Brandon Taylor
    8. Tramain Thomas
    9. Trenton Robinson
    10. Christian Thompson
    Notes: Iloka can be the answer to the move TEs of today’s game.

    Some of "my guys": Trent Richardson, RG3, Bruce Irvin, George Iloka, Devon Wylie, Demario Davis, Brandon Boykin, Shea McClellin, Isaiah Pead, Lamar Miller. Sleepers: BJ Coleman and James Brown.


    And 5 Diamonds In the Rough:

    TE Chase Ford, OT James Brown, OLB Brett Roy, RB Dan Herron, DE Malik Jackson

    There might not be any future stars in that group, but definitely guys that will contribute and provide value based on where they were picked.


    Top 64

    1. Andrew Luck
    2. Trent Richardson
    3. Robert Griffin
    4. David DeCastro
    5. Janoris Jenkins
    6. Fletcher Cox
    7. Ryan Tannehill
    8. Morris Claiborne
    9. Matt Kalil
    10. Shea McClellin
    11. Lavonte David
    12. Quentin Coples
    13. Dontari Poe
    14. Luke Kuechly
    15. Dre Kirkpatrick
    16. Mark Barron
    17. Justin Blackmon
    18. Lamar Miller
    19. Kendall Wright
    20. Melvin Ingram
    21. Stephen Hill
    22. Courtney Upshaw
    23. Stephon Gilmore
    24. Brandon Boykin
    25. Bruce Irvin
    26. Coby Fleener
    27. Ruben Randle
    28. Michael Brockers
    29. Mike Adams
    30. Michael Floyd
    31. Amini Silatolu
    32. Riley Reiff
    33. George Iloka
    34. Devon Wylie
    35. Peter Konz
    36. Trumaine Johnson
    37. Mychal Kendricks
    38. Orson Charles
    39. Alameda Ta’Amu
    40. Brandon Washington
    41. Josh Chapman
    42. Dont’a Hightower
    43. Kelechi Osemele
    44. David Wilson
    45. Doug Martin
    46. Mitchell Schwartz
    47. Isaiah Pead
    48. Mo Sanu
    49. Brandon Weeden
    50. Nick Perry
    51. Vinny Curry
    52. Bobby Wagner
    53. Josh Robinson
    54. Devon Still
    55. Dwayne Allen
    56. Harrison Smith
    57. Jeff Allen
    58. Chandler Jones
    59. James Brown
    60. Andre Branch
    61. Malik Jackson
    62. Brandon Thompson
    63. Alshon Jeffrey
    64. Demario Davis
    Last edited by ATLDirtyBirds; 04-25-2012, 06:21 PM.

  • #2
    Can't say I have any real strong objections here other than Coples which we've talked about before.


    RB - I'd go Martin over Wilson though I'm not as high on Wilson as some. Our 5-8 is identical

    though.
    WR - I have some little difference in mine throughout but the only one that I really disagree with (and it pains me to say) is Streeter is too high. He just has no physicality and lacks suddenness which makes me think he's liable to getting owned at the line of scrimmage vs strong press CB's on the next level.

    OT - I like it though I would definitely have Adams over Cordy personally but other than that they look right to me.

    G - KO as the second guard is interesting. He's massive and super physical so he has a lot of upside there. I still worry a bit about his lateral movement inside because I think he's a little more of a straight line athlete but he has a lot of potential there.

    C - I see no reason why Zeitler couldn't play center and play it well.

    DE - I really don't love either Coples or Ingram in a 43 though it's tough because there are no clear cut favorites who are great fits there.

    DT - I'd bump Chapman and Thompson above Still but other than that I like it a lot.

    MLB - No argument here. Mychal is a beast. I probably would have listed Demario as a MLB given that's what he played at Arky State and I wouldn't have had him any lower than 4th and giving Dont'a a run for his money for that 3rd spot.

    OLB - Only thing I'll say is that if you listed him there, Mychal would be my #1 OLB. He could be a nasty, attacking WILL in a 43.

    34 OLB - Don't see Curry as a 34 OLB? Also glad to see the Brett Roy mention. He can be a player for somebody if he can find the right niche.

    CB - I would have Bill Bentley higher but the CB class is a crapshoot so it's hard to have any big issues with the ordering after Kirkpatrick.

    S - Where would you rank Kirkpatrick among the safeties?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by TACKLE View Post
      Can't say I have any real strong objections here other than Coples which we've talked about before.


      RB - I'd go Martin over Wilson though I'm not as high on Wilson as some. Our 5-8 is identical

      though.
      WR - I have some little difference in mine throughout but the only one that I really disagree with (and it pains me to say) is Streeter is too high. He just has no physicality and lacks suddenness which makes me think he's liable to getting owned at the line of scrimmage vs strong press CB's on the next level.

      OT - I like it though I would definitely have Adams over Cordy personally but other than that they look right to me.

      G - KO as the second guard is interesting. He's massive and super physical so he has a lot of upside there. I still worry a bit about his lateral movement inside because I think he's a little more of a straight line athlete but he has a lot of potential there.

      C - I see no reason why Zeitler couldn't play center and play it well.

      DE - I really don't love either Coples or Ingram in a 43 though it's tough because there are no clear cut favorites who are great fits there.

      DT - I'd bump Chapman and Thompson above Still but other than that I like it a lot.

      MLB - No argument here. Mychal is a beast. I probably would have listed Demario as a MLB given that's what he played at Arky State and I wouldn't have had him any lower than 4th and giving Dont'a a run for his money for that 3rd spot.

      OLB - Only thing I'll say is that if you listed him there, Mychal would be my #1 OLB. He could be a nasty, attacking WILL in a 43.

      34 OLB - Don't see Curry as a 34 OLB? Also glad to see the Brett Roy mention. He can be a player for somebody if he can find the right niche.

      CB - I would have Bill Bentley higher but the CB class is a crapshoot so it's hard to have any big issues with the ordering after Kirkpatrick.

      S - Where would you rank Kirkpatrick among the safeties?
      You and I really seem to be on a similar page.

      RB: That's actually one of my undecided areas. I keep flipping, but I'm gambling on the potential of Wilson. I don't like him as much as I liked Ryan Williams, but there's a lot of explosive elements to his game. Although, I would not be shocked if I flipped them before the draft, or after depending on team.

      WR: How dare you talk ill of Touchdown Tommy. I agree on the press thing, but he does have some shiftiness off the line. Perhaps I'm biased on him, but I have faith. (Although he will be knocked down in the post draft if he doesn't go to a vertical team). Also curious as to what you think of Wylie? I love him, might move him up even more, but it's tough to have a pure slot too high. **** it, I'm moving him up after this post.


      OG: What I saw with Osmele on film was someone who was so focused on stopping the outside rush, that he was so susceptible to getting beat inside. With his size, in a phone booth, he'll be a stud. As I'm sure you've seen, once he gets his hands on you, game over.

      DE: I know you and I disagree on Coples. Ingram would scare me if I was a 43 team picking him in the top 10. But I think he'd succeed. Still want to see him with the Jets. Too perfect a fit.

      34 OLB: Curry not being there is an oversight, thanks. Although I do prefer him as a 43 DE.

      DT: I'm not a Still guy at all, but there's upside there. I anticipate Thompson and Chapman moving ahead of him on the post draft rankings though.

      MLB: Demario is one of my favorites from this year. He could play MLB, and I would have him at 3. However, I like him better on the outside.

      OLB: Similar story with Kendricks. Agree, but I like him at MLB.

      CB: I kept going back and forth on Norman/Bentley. Any insight there? Also, are you a Trumaine guy? He's another one of my guys this year.

      S: Dre would be #1.

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      • #4
        why you gots to cut me real deep by having sanu behind wylie, adams and randle?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by scottyboy View Post
          why you gots to cut me real deep by having sanu behind wylie, adams and randle?

          To be fair, I'm higher on Wylie and Adams than most. Rubs is a future stud though.

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          • #6
            Agree 100% on Iloka. Harrison Smith may still be the 2nd safety selected but I'm not on board with all the hype surrounding him lately, especially the 1st round talk. Plenty of people on these boards have noted how NFL teams will/are changing their outlook on the S position to counter these TEs, then I have to hear that Antonio Allen is a better prospect than Iloka because he's a "box" safety and Iloka isn't a definitive "FS" or "SS". Soon enough, we will no longer distinguish the difference between the two starting safeties on NFL defenses, and Iloka is the 2nd best pure prospect at the position after Barron, who still may end up having a lesser NFL career.
            Nick Foles are you really my daddy??!..?

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