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  • PAC-10 Discussion Thread

    Since I can't find one I'll start one.

    A little thing people don't realize this year is how well ASU's defense is playing. They are #1 in the PAC-10 in scoring defense, total defense, pass defense, and opposition 3rd down efficiency.

    ASU is quite possibly one of the most overlooked teams in the country, but they haven't really played high quality competition. I think if they have a decisive victory over Oregon State (10 points or more) than they will be ranked in the top-25 and seen at least as the fourth best team in the PAC-10, if not third.

    Also, Oregon will soon play pourly because people should note that classes are not in session. Every year Oregon starts off great, but when classes begin they completely cool off because they aren't prepared for both class and football after focusing on one for so many weeks.

    The way I see the PAC-10 shaping up at the end of the year...

    1. USC
    2. Cal
    3. ASU
    4. Washington
    5. Oregon
    6. Washington State
    7. UCLA
    8. Oregon State
    9. Stanford
    10. Arizona (yes they will be worse than Stanford, that is how overhyped they were).

    PAC-10 stats:

    http://www.pac-10.org/sports/m-footb.../confldrs.html


    Originally posted by Halsey
    I don't have to watch it to know it was not interesting.

  • #2
    I'd take Oregon over Cal personally, although I'd pick Cal to make the big upsets over USC.

    I just think Oregon has the better defense and a good senior quarterback, which = not getting beat by teams you shouldn't get beat by.

    Haven't seen ASU play yet this year, but if they can play defense, they'll win some games. Offense has never been the problem at ASU.
    Browns & Buckeyes <3

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    • #3
      2006 Oregon started 5-1, ended season 2-5 (losing last 4)

      I foresee a similar path this year. Then again they went 11-1 in 05, so you never know.


      Originally posted by Halsey
      I don't have to watch it to know it was not interesting.

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      • #4
        Cal has to many offensive weapons for Oregon to handle.just my opinion.
        Didnt Oregon also loose Dixon and Leaf last year.I remember watching Costa in a game.
        "The liberator who destroys my property, is fighting to save my spirit. The teacher who clears all possessions from my path will set me free."-Tyler Durden

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        • #5
          I love Keegan Herring of ASU, when he was a freshman I really thought he was going to be of Reggie Bush caliber(not saying he has every done bad still nearly 6 ypc) with him and Torain plus Carpenter playing well the offense should be feared. But as gstock05 said he really depends on thier defense to see how far they will go

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          • #6
            Originally posted by fenikz View Post
            I love Keegan Herring of ASU, when he was a freshman I really thought he was going to be of Reggie Bush caliber(not saying he has every done bad still nearly 6 ypc) with him and Torain plus Carpenter playing well the offense should be feared. But as gstock05 said he really depends on thier defense to see how far they will go
            The problem with Herring is that he tries to cut back too much instead of take the whole he is given and only pick up 2 or 3 yards. It works against cupcakes, but not against good PAC-10 teams.

            And Koetter was an idiot two years ago with Herring and Rudy Burgess. Every time Burgess lined up he would run up the middle and when Herring lined up it would be outside the tackles. It worked against some teams, but most were destroyed.

            Torain is questionable for this saturday's game.


            Originally posted by Halsey
            I don't have to watch it to know it was not interesting.

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            • #7
              Arizona State #3 sounds good with me

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              • #8
                The worst problem ASU suffered under koetter was special teams, or more specifically, the punting. They would spread out their punt formation to be able to cover the return more easily, but one problem, they ended up getting a good amount blocked. I still remember when ASu was owning #3LSU but thanks to a blocked punt for a td and a 4th and 22 for a td LSU won.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by soybean View Post
                  The worst problem ASU suffered under koetter was special teams, or more specifically, the punting. They would spread out their punt formation to be able to cover the return more easily, but one problem, they ended up getting a good amount blocked. I still remember when ASu was owning #3LSU but thanks to a blocked punt for a td and a 4th and 22 for a td LSU won.
                  I was at that game. It was devastating and we never recovered.

                  The Tigers are who we thought they were!!!!

                  http://youtube.com/watch?v=sidgxPzG1Z8


                  Originally posted by Halsey
                  I don't have to watch it to know it was not interesting.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Turtlepower View Post
                    I was at that game. It was devastating and we never recovered.

                    The Tigers are who we thought they were!!!!

                    http://youtube.com/watch?v=sidgxPzG1Z8
                    nah they did recover, it was the USC game that kind of drove them to rock bottom.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by soybean View Post
                      nah they did recover, it was the USC game that kind of drove them to rock bottom.
                      We recovered because we played horrible teams before USC. And yes, we just didn't know how to win games. And Sam Keller is overrated.


                      Originally posted by Halsey
                      I don't have to watch it to know it was not interesting.

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                      • #12
                        I agree with everything said about ASU so far as you cant tell I am homer because i am a student here at ASU. However i do believe that the asu can go third in the PAC10 oregon state is a good test but i believe they will beat them by 15 josh barrett should anchor a solid secndary but the defense will need to pick it up during the second half of the season

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                        • #13
                          here is a Keegan Herring sig i made awhile ago, if anyone wants to use it feel free just give me some credit


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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SunDevil450 View Post
                            I agree with everything said about ASU so far as you cant tell I am homer because i am a student here at ASU. However i do believe that the asu can go third in the PAC10 oregon state is a good test but i believe they will beat them by 15 josh barrett should anchor a solid secndary but the defense will need to pick it up during the second half of the season
                            Josh Barrett sucks. Yeah I said it. He has almost played himself off of the team. He needs to step up his play like he did last year because as of right now he is barely making any plays in our secondary. It is questionable if he will even start due to the strong play of JC newcomer Troy Nolan.


                            Originally posted by Halsey
                            I don't have to watch it to know it was not interesting.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Turtlepower View Post
                              Josh Barrett sucks. Yeah I said it. He has almost played himself off of the team. He needs to step up his play like he did last year because as of right now he is barely making any plays in our secondary. It is questionable if he will even start due to the strong play of JC newcomer Troy Nolan.
                              I agree, Josh hasn't been very impressive to start the season. I think Justin Tryon has been ASU's best DB so far. I would have moved Barrett to LB a while ago.
                              aka KGB Chicken

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