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    Ok, my 2nd Mock of the season. It will be up for about one day. Harsh criticism is accepted, as long as you provide an in-depth reason why my pick is wrong (ie. No "He's good, but I like so and so more. /end post" Please explain to me, or I will disregard your input. Sorry.). If you agree with my pick, say so and give an alternate pick if you'd like. It's a 2 RDer, and my order is an average of Yahoo's NFL writers Cole and Robinson's Power Rankings, ESPN's NFL writer McAllister's Power Rankings, and NFLDC's very own toonsterwu's most recent mock draft order. So here we go...

    1st Round

    1. Miami Dolphins - Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU

    Well, Miami is in the position where they need to win in order to actually get players they need and that fit their scheme. Cause currently, Jake Long is the only logical pick that fits what they run. Now, the Miami OL has picked up their game, so Long isn't needed here. They need defensive help, and the best DEF player is Dorsey by a mile. He will be dominate in their Hybrid 3-4 when he's in the UT position in the 4-3, and when they switch to the 3-4, he can go in at DE or possible NT. Either way, he'll be on the field and be noticed.

    Alternate Pick: Jake Long

    2. New York Jets - Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas

    They invested in Thomas Jones with a 2nd RD pick last year, but he hasn't produced. So one could argue that they should go another direction, but I disagree. Last year, the Vikings took Adrian Peterson despite having a 1,000+ YD rusher in Chester Taylor who they just acquired in the offseason as well. And now the Vikings have one of the deadliest offensive threats in the NFL. McFadden may not be on AD's level, but he's not far behind. With a young QB likely about to take over the offense, having both Jones, who's aging, and a stud in McFadden would be very wise in my opinion.

    Alternate Pick: Chris Long, Jake Long

    3. St. Louis Rams - Jake Long, OT, Michigan

    Alas, we come to the rams. Now, their talent is actually pretty good, but injuries have hurt them. Especially the OL, with Pace out. Long can come in at RT and help immediately, and possible switch to LT in his 2nd season when Pace decides to retire. Alex Barron should be able to contribute at OT as well, and him and Long are the future.

    Alternate Pick: Calais Campbell

    4. Oakland Raiders - Chris Long, DE, Virginia

    Oakland needs a help on the defensive side of the ball. They're struggling to stop the run, and to rush the passer. They also need a RE. So basically, they need the perfect DE, and fortunately for them one falls into their laps. Long has a high motor and can rush the passer and stuff the run. He's everything you need at the position, and will help that defense.

    Alternate Pick: Sedrick Ellis

    5. New England Patriots(F/ SF) - Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State

    The thought that the Patriots will likely get a Top 5 pick is scary, but there's a good chance they'll trade down to garner picks. But, I don't do trades so they stay here and take the best CB available in Jenkins since they may not re-sign Asante Samuel. ILB is also considered, but I don't think the value is here.

    Alternate Pick: Kenny Phillips

    6. Atlanta Falcons - Andre Woodson, QB, Kentucky

    The Falcons need a LT bad, but the difference between the QB talent is larger than the difference between OT talent when comparing RDs 1 and 2. So, they have the luxury of being able to choose the 1st QB, and they select Woodson who I believe is the best QB and has the highest ceiling of the Elite 3. OT or RB can be assessed in the 2nd RD, and they have 2 picks.

    Alternate Pick: Sam Baker

    7. Minnesota Vikings - Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College

    Like the Falcons, the Vikings need a QB since the Tavaris Jackson project is not quite panning out. With Adrian Peterson and Sidney Rice, the offense has potential and all they need is a signal caller. Matt Ryan is considered by some to be the best QB in the draft, and he is the pick for the Vikings.

    Alternate Pick: Kenny Phillips

    8. Houston Texans - Kenny Phillips, S, Miami(FL)

    Everyone had high hopes for the Texans, but they have been riddled with injuries and have lost many games because of it. Their secondary is especially bad, though they have a stud in Dunta Robinson and hopes for Fred Bennett. Thus, I turn away from CB and pick a safety. Phillips is by far the top safety in this draft, and could have gone much higher than this. He will solidify that secondary for years and improve the total defense because of it. Never underestimate the power of a great safety.

    Alternate Pick: Sam Baker

    9. Cincinatti Bengals - Calais Campbell, DE, Miami(FL)

    To me, this is the perfect fit. The two parties were supposed to have great years, but they have not come through. At 6'8, Campbell was supposed to dominate offensive linemen everywhere this year, but has not lived up to expectations. The Bengals are the same in the underachieving department, and their run defense doesn't seem able to stop anyone. The Bengals need a DE, and Campbell has good value here.

    Alternate Pick: Sedrick Ellis

    10. Carolina Panthers - Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville

    We could go in a few directions with the Panthers. They may lose their LT, so Sam Baker would be good. They need safety help, but Reggie Smith is not a Top 10 pick in my opinion. Then, they have so many issues with QB, I don't have enough time to go into that. I really want to go Baker, but when your starting QB is Vinny Testaverde who came out of retirement to play, you have little choice but to go QB. Plus, John Fox may be gone and the next coach may want a franchise QB. So the pick is Brohm, who is the last member of the Elite 3 QB's.

    Alternate Pick: Sam Baker

    11. Baltimore Ravens - Jack Ikegwuonu, CB, Wisconsin

    Kind of a tough pick here. The Ravens barely miss out on one of the Elite 3, so they look towards CB. They have no depth at CB, and Samari Rolle is showing his age. I toss Ike and Cason back and forth, but decide on Ike. At 6'1, 193 lbs, he has great size and has handled great receivers to minimal showings over the season.

    Alternate Pick: Quentin Groves

    12. Philadelphia Eagles - Desean Jackson, WR, California

    This kinda goes against the pattern of the way the Eagles draft, but I think Jackson is the best way to go. McNabb obviously needs someone else to throw to, and Kevin Curtis and Reggie Brown aren't the solution. Jackson can be the #1 guy for McNabb, and also handle punt and kickoff returns, as the Eagles have had issues with that. It helps the offense and special teams immensely, and in my view is a no brainer.

    Alternate Pick: James Laurinitis, Dan Connor

    13. Kansas City Cheifs - Sam Baker, OT, USC

    They need offensive line help badly. 'Nuff said.

    Alternate Pick: Ryan Clady, Michael Oher, Gosder Cherilus, Jeff Otah

    14. Chicago Bears - Ryan Clady, OT, Boise St.

    Yet another team who missed out on a QB. Safety is another need, but no value. Sedrick Ellis maybe, but I'm gonna go with the OL. Ryan Clady could become a LT at the next level, but for now can slide into RT so he can enter in slowly. Fred Miller was old when he was with the Titans, and needs to be replaced soon.

    Alternate Pick: Sedrick Ellis

    15. Denver Broncos - James Laurinitis, ILB, Ohio State

    Some Denver fans will say that DT is their biggest need, but I disagree. I think the loss of Al Wilson and the lack of a true MLB is what hurt this team the most. D.J. Williams is an OLB, and doesn't have the instincts to play in the middle. So Laurinitis, who I still think has the last name of some unknown disease ("Sorry boss. I can't come into work. I've caught a real bad case of Laurinitis..."), will go in the middle and Williams gets moved back outside. Dan Connor would possibly fit this scenario as well, and is versatile to play inside or out. But I think taking a true ILB is the best bet, and maybe add DT depth in the 2nd RD.

    Alternate Pick: Sedrick Ellis, Dan Connor

    16. New Orleans Saints - Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC

    Finally, Ellis is picked and halfway through the 1st RD is possibly a steal for the Saints. He is overshadowed by Dorsey, but Ellis could very well be great in the NFL. The Saints defense is atrocious, and they could use help anywhere. CB and ILB are considered, but Ellis is the choice as DT is just as big of a need and a penetrating (*giggles*) DT will increase the sack numbers of Will Smith and Charles Johnson.

    Alternate Pick: Antoine Cason, Dan Connor, Rey Maualuga

    17. Arizona Cardinals - Quentin Groves, OLB, Auburn

    The Cardinals switch to the 3-4 is going along fairly smoothly. Karlos Dansby and Darnell Dockett have exploded this season, and Adrian Wilson is a monster as always. But, they could use help at the OLB Hybrid position. Groves was recently switched to OLB in Auburn's defense, and is gaining experience there. I believe he plays SLB, but I could very well be wrong. He could play either side, as he is a great athlete.

    Alternate Pick: Antoin Cason

    18. Washington Redskins - Malcolm Kelly, WR, Oklahoma

    CB, WR, DE, and DT were considered for the 'Skins. Only WR and CB have value, so I settled with Kelly. Washington has enough small, quick WRs, and they have been having trouble in the passing game with catching the ball. Last Sunday was the 1st game a WR actually caught a TD pass. Kelly is a big WR at 6'4, 217 lbs and is a playmaker in every sense of the world. He would be a good addition to that WR corps, and another need can be addressed later.

    Alternate Pick: Antoine Cason

    19. Buffalo Bills - Dan Connor, LB, Penn. State

    Value and need-wise, Connor is the best pick available. Maybe James Hardy or a CB, but the secondary has done well. There's no value at DT. So we have Hardy or Connor, and I think the nod goes to Connor. Connor will play OLB aside his old team mate at Penn State Paul Posluzny. Add in Angelo Crowell, and you have a great LB group.

    Alternate Pick: James Hardy

    20. Seattle Seahawks - Jonathan Stewart, RB, Oregon

    Seattle doesn't have many pressing needs, but the injuries to Shaun Alexander are worrisome and Alexander is 30 years old. Stewart reminds me of Alexander except that he's a harder runner. So Stewart would be great to take over when his time comes.

    Alternate Pick: Michael Oher, Martellus Bennett

    21. Detroit Lions - Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida

    Ok, I know the Lions need OL and DB help, and they could get someone here. Oher, Cherilus, and Otah are available, as are Cason and Talib. But, I don't think that you have to pick a CB early in the Cover 2 defense. So I'm was going towards OL, but realized that DE is also a need and a great Cover 2 RE is available in Harvey. A pass rush will help the secondary, and OL or CB can be addressed in the 2nd RD. Not to mention that this year's FA class will likely be very deep at the OL position.

    Alternate Pick: Michael Oher

    22. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona

    CB is a need. No DT really of value, in my opinion. Doucet maybe, since they need a speedy WR. But the decision goes to Cason to take over for the aging Tampa CB's.

    Alternate Pick: Early Doucet

    23. Dallas Cowboys(F/ CLE) - Aqib Talib, CB, Kansas

    I think CB or RB instantly. Maybe WR or S as well. May be too early for Felix Jones or Slaton, and WR and S may be secondary needs. So we CB, and Talib is the pick.

    Alternate Pick: Reggie Smith

    24. Tennessee Titans - James Hardy, WR, Indiana

    Currently, Tennessee's top needs are WR and TE. There isn't any TEs worth picking here, so we look at WR. The Titans do not usually invest early picks on WR's, and it has hurt them. They drafted Paul Williams early last year, but he's a work in progress and not the savior. Hardy is a huge target, and will make throwing easier for Vince Young. Limas Sweed also tends to be a popular pick here.

    Alternate Pick: Limas Sweed

    25. San Diego Chargers - Rey Maualuga, ILB, USC

    The Chargers don't really have any big needs, so BPA would probably be Maualuga. I don't like Okam as a NT, so no go there. You can't have too many good LBs, and Maualuga could make an impact.

    Alternate Pick: Reggie Smith

    26. New York Giants - Keith Rivers, OLB, USC

    Linebacker is a big need for the Giants. Kiwanuka isn't fit for OLB, and is best on the DLine. Rivers will take Kiwi's place, and Kiwi can go back to the Line and probably take over for Strahan eventually when he retires.

    Alternate Pick: Mike Jenkins

    27. Jacksonville Jaguars - Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College

    Tony Pashos hasn't played well this season at RT, and the team has felt the impact of losing Kyle Brady who was an excellent blocker. Cherilus can play RT, or possibly even LT if needed and is a mauling run-blocker which is what Jax needs. He provides depth right away, and will probably start somewhere in the near future.

    Alternate Picks: Michael Oher, Erin Henderson

    28. Pittsburgh Steelers - Michael Oher, OL, Ole Miss

    It was close between him and Jeff Otah, but I went with Oher. Oher can play OG or OT, and the Steelers may need someone with that versatility as they are losing Faneca and Marvel Smith too I think. Plus, they don't really have any other pressing needs. So Oher gets the nod.

    Alternate Pick: Jeff Otah

    29. San Francisco 49ers(F/ IND) - Adarius Bowman, WR, Oklahoma St.

    Well, this is a team that really needed that #5 pick, but they're stuck with Joe Staley and now have the #29 pick. So what do they do? OLB, FS, and WR come to mind. Reggie Smith would be good, but they'll have a chance at him or Hefney come RD 2 so I picked Bowman. The SF offense is stagnant, so hopefully the addition of a physical receiver to the speed of the offense will help. If not, Norv Turner should be looking for a job in the offseason anyway.

    Alternate Pick: Reggie Smith

    30. Green Bay Packers - Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida

    A surprising Packers team that doesn't have anything that stands out except for RB. Felix Jones or Slaton are available, but so is Jenkins. CB is a need also, so Jenkins gets the nod since Ryan Grant is playing well and Brandon Jackson still needs time and patience.

    Alternate Pick: Felix Jones

    31. Dallas Cowboys - Felix Jones, RB, Arkansas

    Now that CB was addressed, we can look at RB. Jones played second fiddle to Darren McFadden at Arkansas, but he's a great RB. He's lightning quick, and can even contribute with returns. He'll be a great compliment to Marion Barber III.

    Alternate Pick: Reggie Smith

    32. New England Patriots - Forfeited

    2nd Round

    33. Miami Dolphins - Reggie Smith, CB/S, Oklahoma
    34. New York Jets - Frank Okam, DE, Texas
    35. St. Louis Rams - Erin Henderson, LB, Maryland
    36. Oakland Raiders - Jeff Otah, OL, Pittsburgh
    37. San Francisco 49ers - Jonathan Hefney, S, Tennessee
    38. Atlanta Falcons - Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt
    39. Minnesota Vikings - Eric Young, OL, Tennessee
    40. Atlanta Falcons - Steve Slaton, RB, West Virginia
    41. Cincinatti Bengals - Ali Highsmith, OLB, LSU
    42. Carolina Panthers - Tony Hills, OL, Texas
    43. Baltimore Ravens - Erik Ainge, QB, Tennessee
    44. Philadelphia Eagles - Martellus Bennett, TE, Texas A&M
    45. Kansas City Chiefs - DeMario Pressley, DT, N.C. State
    46. Chicago Bears - Colt Brennan, QB, Hawaii
    47. Denver Broncos - Dre Moore, DT, Maryland
    48. New Orleans Saints - Jonathan Goff, ILB, Vanderbilt
    49. Arizona Cardinals - Terrell Thomas, CB, USC
    50. Washington Redskins - Law Jackson, DE, USC
    51. Buffalo Bills - Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
    52. Seattle Seahawks - Fred Davis, TE, USC
    53. Detroit Lions - Dwight Lowery, CB, San Jose St.
    54. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Early Doucet, WR, LSU
    55. Cleveland Browns - Red Bryant, NT, Texas A&M
    56. Tennessee Titans - Martin Rucker, TE, Missouri
    57. Miami Dolphins - Tracy Porter, CB, Indiana
    58. New York Giants - Justin King, CB, Penn St.
    59. Jacksonville Jaguars - Tavares Gooden, LB, Miami(FL)
    60. Pittsburgh Steelers - Zack Bowman, CB, Nebraska
    61. Indianapolis Colts - Xavier Adibi, OLB, Virginia Tech
    62. Green Bay Packers - John Carlson, TE, Notre Dame
    63. Dallas Cowboys - Harry Douglas, WR, Louisville
    64. New England Patriots - Philip Wheeler, LB, Georgia Tech

    I may add 2nd RD explanations later. It's 3 AM, and I'm out.
    Last edited by TitanHope; 11-17-2007, 08:29 PM. Reason: Error Corrections and Henry Mistake.
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  • #2
    Where exactly is anthony henry going? Last I checked he had 3 years left on his deal and didn't have any rumors of leaving.


    • #3
      didnt Bowman just tear his ACL last week? im sure hes got talent but now hes got an injury hes gotta overcome, i think hes now at best(unless he has a good-great combine) 2nd rounder. Why draft someone that may not play at 100% till his Soph year?


      • #4
        4. Oakland Raiders - Chris Long, DE, Virginia

        Oakland needs a help on the defensive side of the ball. They're struggling to stop the run, and to rush the passer. They also need a RE. So basically, they need the perfect DE, and fortunately for them one falls into their laps. Long has a high motor and can rush the passer and stuff the run. He's everything you need at the position, and will help that defense.

        36. Oakland Raiders - Jeff Otah, OL, Pittsburgh



        • #5
          Like the Steelers picks...Good job


          • #6
            perfect panther mock


            • #7
              Aright... great 1st and 2nd picks for the Falcons and good reasoning on the first pick... but horrible pick of Slaton. we don't need a speed back with Norwood and Dunn on the roster. we need a power back... but more than that we need NT and would get NT Red Bryant here.

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              • #8
                I like that draft for Buffalo

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                • #9
                  Love the Dolphins picks. Dorsey is who I want if we stay at number 1 overall. Reggie Smith in round would would make me estatic. Now give us Justin King instead of Tracey Porter at the end of round 2 and I'd be backflips. King is far and away a better prospect then Porter.


                  • #10
                    Overall I love the draft. Nice work.

                    Giants 1st Rounder. Rivers is good value there, and it fills a need, but the Giants biggest weakness is easily a FS. That's where Reggie Smith comes into play. Gibril Wilson would be so much better if he had a CF type safety next to him. Kiwi is improving every week at LB, he could potentially be a great player there. Steve Spags is learning how to utilize him correctly.

                    No complaints on the 2nd rounder. Good value.


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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TitanHope View Post
                      2. New York Jets - Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas

                      They invested in Thomas Jones with a 2nd RD pick last year, but he hasn't produced. So one could argue that they should go another direction, but I disagree. Last year, the Vikings took Adrian Peterson despite having a 1,000+ YD rusher in Chester Taylor who they just acquired in the offseason as well. And now the Vikings have one of the deadliest offensive threats in the NFL. McFadden may not be on AD's level, but he's not far behind. With a young QB likely about to take over the offense, having both Jones, who's aging, and a stud in McFadden would be very wise in my opinion.
                      With the Jets offensive line in the state that it is, having both Jones and a stud in McFadden is like having the best one two punching combination in a jousting combination. The Jets need an upgrade in at least two offensive line positions and probably three (LG, RT and probably RG). Darren McFadden is not Adrian Peterson, but I do think that at the very least in the back of everyone's mind (probably in the front), that they believe that he is. Remember, the last time prior to AD a team drafted a running back early when they already had one was the Bears when they selected Benson. How has that worked out? How much better did he make the Bears run game? How much better was Willis McGahee than Travis Henry for Buffalo?


                      • #12
                        Doucet would probably be a better 1st rounder for Tampa, and I highly doubt he drops to us in the 2nd.

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                        • #13
                          i definately love your first round ravens choice. Jack is my favourite CB in this class, and i think he has star potential. Good reasoning, and im also glad we didnt end up with one of the 3 Qbs as i hate them all. The only one I would even begin to trust with my franchise would be woodson, but we cant wait for him to develop. Id rather trust in Boller (as bad as it sounds) and address the other areas of need. Perfect pick there.

                          I hate the 2nd round pick however. Im nto sold on ainge, and im not ready to call it quits with boller yet, and i dont think ozzie is either (having jsut resigned him). Hell, id rather have brennan then ainge if you insist on giving us a QB. In that position, id rather you give us shawn crable or even a guy like Limas Sweed.

                          Overall, great mock. I liked how you took some chances and it wasnt just the same as any other mock. Good read.
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                          • #14
                            I would be hugely disappointed if the giants passed on Reggie Smith in the first. We need at least one safety and a corner in this draft, so a first two rounds of Reggie Smith and Justin King would be a dream come true.


                            • #15
                              Mike Jenkins over Justin King and Reggie Smith? no thanks.



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