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  • #31
    Originally posted by LitoSheppard View Post
    No one could do what peyton does, thats not the point, the colts would still be sucsefull without Peyton Manning
    I disagree. What good are WR's if you don't have someone to throw them the ball?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Acreboy View Post
      I disagree. What good are WR's if you don't have someone to throw them the ball?
      They might not be as dynamite a team without Peyton, but even if they didn't have him, Harrison, Wayne, Clark, Addai, and a good (ranging to great) O-Line puts them in much better shape then still a lot of teams in the league, even with Ryan Leaf at QB (well, maybe not him)..

      You could get rid of Peyton there, and still have a productive offense, whereas you get rid of an LJ from KC, or even as far as Vince Young from the Titans, your left with little to no offensive firepower at all.

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      • #33
        Manning
        Brady
        Brees
        Palmer
        Tomlinson
        Larry Johnson
        McNabb (this year because they have a rook behind him.)
        Steve McNair (He's nothing special but Boller is like the 12th man on defense...)
        Vince Young
        Shaun Alexander

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        • #34
          Palmer should be higher than #10.

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          • #35
            I think this question has more to do with the backups than it does the actual player in question. And the rarer the type of player, the more indispensible they are. So I'd have a tough time putting any RB on a top 10 list. There's just too many of them. Although, I admit the Chiefs would be pretty bad without LJ. To me, the guys who are most indispensable are the beasts in the trenches. Without them, guys like LJ and Priest end up looking like every other RB who runs behind inadequate blockers. Those road graders are just a rarer breed. Guys like Lorenzo Neal and Steve Hutchinson have more of an impact when switching teams than guys like Edgerrin James or Clinton Portis do. Give me a choice between Tommie Harris and Shaun Alexander, and it's a no-brainer. I'm going with the super-rare pass rushing DT. Now, of course when you factor in money and fan support, you've got a whole different equation to consider. For me though, it's all about what makes my team better. And relying too heavily on one RB is almost always a bad idea. I don't mean it's not good to have a workhorse, I just mean you've got to have a plan B. RB is a position that it's easy to have a plan B. NT isn't. Neither is QB or LT. So in other words, if your RB is the most indispensable player on your entire team, then you need to pull your head out of your ass. There's just no excuse for that, imo.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Acreboy View Post
              "Amazing" is stretching it.

              Jim Sorgi couldn't do what Peyton does.
              This is a filthy lie. Jim Sorgi can throw a ball further than even "Gunslinger" Brett Favre and like someone said earlier, the Colts only play with Peyton because if Sorgi played, it wouldn't be fair to the other teams as Sorgi would average 550 yards and 8 TD per. Hence, the NFL doesn't want such embarassment.

              I think Vick at #7 is a mistake there too. I just don't think he's that important to the team. Sorry, but even an average QB could hit 53.8% of his passes. His 1.36:1 TD/INT ratio isn't exactly scorching up the stats either. I know he's a valuable rusher, but so are Warrick Dunn and Jerious Norwood, and they're not playing QB.

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              • #37
                I think if you flip Peyton and Brady and Vick and Palmer, that's a good list.

                The Chiefs are most definitely dead in the water without LJ. Peyton is the real MVP on that list, but the Colts aren't quite as dead in the water without him--- though they still would be dead in the water.

                Brady runs that offense, but it would still be manageable considering the defense and the offensive supporting cast. If he was lost, it'd definitely be a blow.

                Meanwhile, Carson Palmer's value is on a level just below these two.

                Michael Vick isn't a great QB. But, let's face it. That offense just doesn't work without him. Ever since 2002, in games Vick hasn't started the team has gone 3-13.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by SNIPER26 View Post
                  This is a filthy lie. Jim Sorgi can throw a ball further than even "Gunslinger" Brett Favre and like someone said earlier, the Colts only play with Peyton because if Sorgi played, it wouldn't be fair to the other teams as Sorgi would average 550 yards and 8 TD per. Hence, the NFL doesn't want such embarassment.

                  I think Vick at #7 is a mistake there too. I just don't think he's that important to the team. Sorry, but even an average QB could hit 53.8% of his passes. His 1.36:1 TD/INT ratio isn't exactly scorching up the stats either. I know he's a valuable rusher, but so are Warrick Dunn and Jerious Norwood, and they're not playing QB.
                  Agreed 100% about Sorgi.

                  As far as Vick though, a lot of what he brings to the team can't be quantified with stats. All you have to do is hang out with a defensive coordinator during the week prior to his team facing the Falcons, and you'll see how important he is to his team. I think any guy with such rare athleticism and versatility is just inherently indispensable. Take away Vick, and you've got a completely different offense.

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                  • #39
                    Larry Johnson at #1 is a joke. RBs are inherently pretty expendable and he isn't even the best in the league. Not to mention the fact that Brady and Manning are the heart and soul of perennial winning teams while LJ gets 30 carries a game so they don't have to throw.

                    Thanks to BK for the sig

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                    • #40
                      No Drew Brees?

                      ...

                      Hahahahahaha.
                      The whole world loves neophyte athletic tight end Jimmy Graham from Miami with the 95th pick. "Best pick in the draft,'' one AFC coach told me. "Give him time, and in that offense, he'll be better than [Jeremy] Shockey by the start of next year.''

                      “We know that no matter the adversity, be it the lockout, be it the suspension or be it a hurricane, our men will pull together and defend the honor of this city. We’ve shown we’ve been able to do that.” - Jabari Greer

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by duckseason View Post
                        Agreed 100% about Sorgi.

                        As far as Vick though, a lot of what he brings to the team can't be quantified with stats. All you have to do is hang out with a defensive coordinator during the week prior to his team facing the Falcons, and you'll see how important he is to his team. I think any guy with such rare athleticism and versatility is just inherently indispensable. Take away Vick, and you've got a completely different offense.
                        Yeah I suppose you're right. I was merely looking at it from a QB only viewpoint while forgetting everything he opens up for the other guys on his team. Plus, 1,000 yards rushing for a QB? Sickkkkkkkkkk.

                        And Jim Sorgi for 2008 NFL MVP! Enough with this fraud Manning, let the real stud play.

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                        • #42
                          the one thing that's easy to say is that denver needs champ like i need a glass of water.

                          a one man deflection crew. the only corner that really has the right to say he's all that.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by awfullyquiet View Post
                            the one thing that's easy to say is that denver needs champ like i need a glass of water.

                            a one man deflection crew. the only corner that really has the right to say he's all that....
                            ....and a bag of chips

                            macaroni with the cheese

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                            • #44
                              Drew Brees Should be high on this list.

                              Who is his back up?

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by islandboy843 View Post
                                Drew Brees Should be high on this list.

                                Who is his back up?
                                Jamie Martin.

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