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  • #31
    Originally posted by Crickett View Post
    Johnny Unitas #6?

    Bbbbbbbuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuulllllllllllllllllllshit.
    LMAO..........but i do agree with you there. That list is retarted anyway....Where is Marino.....

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    • #32
      Originally posted by iloxygenil View Post
      To have Brady at 5 over the likes of Steve Young and company is an insult...Johnny U...I think they were just assuming a win for him on Superbowl Sunday...which he didn't get. And where's Bradshaw? This list is bogus.
      Bradshaw doesn't deserve to be anywhere near a top 10 list. I would think about putting him in the top 20. He rode his defense to championships.
      I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by someone447 View Post
        I was talking about when Young took over for Montana in '91. When he actually started games, not when he averaged less than 10 passes a game.
        Um, Young did actually start games before the 1991 season. He started several in 1988. And he was not that fun to watch.

        Anyways, even if you start from that 1991 season onward, he had been in the system for four years, starting a handful of games, and he has a lot of help around him for the rest of his career. More than Montana had in his first several. It's not surprising that Young had a good career and experienced a lot of the same success. I just don't see the "Montana and Young are overrated" point you're trying to make.
        Last edited by Ness; 02-11-2008, 02:23 PM.

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        Oh, my bad. Didn't realize SWDC was the pinnacle of class and grace.

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        • #34
          Favre's career > Manning's/Brady's (right now)

          It probably won't finish that way, but us Packer fans would like to enjoy it for a few years, thx.

          and Starr is not GOAT

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          • #35
            How and why does Steve Young make this list over Marino and Elway? In terms of a career his is not more impressive then either of the two.





            Originally posted by Scott Wright
            I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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            • #36
              Slinggin sammy babby
              RIP Sean Michael Taylor

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              • #37
                What I like about this list is the respect it pays to the oldtimers. The other thing is that if you add in the honorable mentions its a pretty good list of the top 15 or top 20. What Im at a loss at is how they came up with that order. Bart Starr is top 20 but number one overall? I dont know what standards you use when you come up with that one. Just from his era I dont know how he's better than Unitas.


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                • #38
                  Originally posted by LonghornsLegend View Post
                  How and why does Steve Young make this list over Marino and Elway? In terms of a career his is not more impressive then either of the two.
                  Why do you think this?

                  "Every light must fade, every heart return to darkness!"
                  -San Francisco 49ers: Five Time Super Bowl Champions-
                  Originally posted by Borat
                  Oh, my bad. Didn't realize SWDC was the pinnacle of class and grace.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Ness View Post
                    Um, Young did actually start games before the 1991 season. He started several in 1988. And he was not that fun to watch.

                    Anyways, even if you start from that 1991 season onward, he had been in the system for four years, starting a handful of games, and he has a lot of help around him for the rest of his career. More than Montana had in his first several. It's not surprising that Young had a good career and experienced a lot of the same success. I just don't see the "Montana and Young are overrated" point you're trying to make.
                    http://www.pro-football-reference.co...St00.htm?redir

                    1987 3 games started
                    1988 3 games started
                    1989 3 games started

                    I mean a significant number of games started.
                    Hell in 1987 he threw 10 td and 0 ints.
                    1988 3 and 3 not good, but not terrible considering he only threw 101 passes
                    1989 8 TDs 3 ints throwing 92 passes.

                    I don't think either of them are significantly overrated. But I put Montana at 5-6 instead 1-2, and young at 12-15 instead of top 10. The people I put ahead of both of them all have legitimate arguments for it.

                    Originally posted by Ness View Post
                    Why do you think this?
                    Steve Young was a backup for 6 of his 14 years. He only played full seasons 3 years(92-94) I'm sorry, but his career wasn't long enough to put him in the top 10.
                    Last edited by someone447; 02-11-2008, 04:45 PM.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by someone447 View Post
                      Can Manning create something out of nothing like Favre and Elway?

                      I think Manning will be the GOAT when all is said and done, he just isn't there yet.
                      I think you can and should throw Brady in there. He has definately made something with nothing.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by someone447 View Post
                        http://www.pro-football-reference.co...St00.htm?redir

                        1987 3 games started
                        1988 3 games started
                        1989 3 games started

                        I mean a significant number of games started.
                        Hell in 1987 he threw 10 td and 0 ints.
                        1988 3 and 3 not good, but not terrible considering he only threw 101 passes
                        1989 8 TDs 3 ints throwing 92 passes.

                        I don't think either of them are significantly overrated. But I put Montana at 5-6 instead 1-2, and young at 12-15 instead of top 10. The people I put ahead of both of them all have legitimate arguments for it.



                        Steve Young was a backup for 6 of his 14 years. He only played full seasons 3 years(92-94) I'm sorry, but his career wasn't long enough to put him in the top 10.
                        Statistics don't tell the entire story. If you saw Steve Young play, then you would understand.

                        "Every light must fade, every heart return to darkness!"
                        -San Francisco 49ers: Five Time Super Bowl Champions-
                        Originally posted by Borat
                        Oh, my bad. Didn't realize SWDC was the pinnacle of class and grace.

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                        • #42
                          my top 10 in no order

                          Montana, Favre, Elway, Marino, Unitas, Staubach, Starr, Manning, Baugh, Brady

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Billingsley26 View Post
                            I think you can and should throw Brady in there. He has definately made something with nothing.
                            Not really. His receivers were no worse than Favre's were during the prime of his career. Yet Favre always had better stats. The one year Favre had a dominant defense, they won the Super Bowl. I think Brady will easily end up top 10, possibly even top 5. If he has a couple years anywhere near close to this year, he may even end up number 1.

                            Brady has never wowed me watching him play like Favre, Elway, and Manning have.
                            I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
                            Hunter S. Thompson

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Ness View Post
                              Statistics don't tell the entire story. If you saw Steve Young play, then you would understand.
                              Three games is not enough to establish a rapport with an offense. He threw 100 passes. He didn't even average 10 passes a game when he played. You can't judge a QB that comes in cold. Of course he isn't going to look too good.

                              You seem to be making my argument for me. Montana benefited greatly from the system and the players. Once Young was able to establish a rapport and learn the system, he did as good, or better than Montana.
                              I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
                              Hunter S. Thompson

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by someone447 View Post
                                Three games is not enough to establish a rapport with an offense. He threw 100 passes. He didn't even average 10 passes a game when he played. You can't judge a QB that comes in cold. Of course he isn't going to look too good.

                                You seem to be making my argument for me. Montana benefited greatly from the system and the players. Once Young was able to establish a rapport and learn the system, he did as good, or better than Montana.
                                Better than Montana. In terms of stats? Yes. But not in terms of making the decisions. Especially in the playoffs. There's quite a difference. Montana had a sixth sense. Young didn't. You can't just insert a player into a system and have them do good. No matter how much talent is around them.

                                I also don't see what's wrong with players doing good in a certain system. That's what football is about. Putting players in situations where they have the best chance to succeed. Elway for example didn't look that great until he had a lot more help around him.
                                Last edited by Ness; 02-11-2008, 05:14 PM.

                                "Every light must fade, every heart return to darkness!"
                                -San Francisco 49ers: Five Time Super Bowl Champions-
                                Originally posted by Borat
                                Oh, my bad. Didn't realize SWDC was the pinnacle of class and grace.

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