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    I saw someone mention that a thread about draft grades from further back should be made, so here is a 2005 draft grade thread. Grades are based on the value of the player in relation to where he was drafted.

    2005
    1 19 19 Alex Barron T ..................There are mixed feelings about him among Rams fans, but he is a solid OT and may perform better on the left side in years to come, B
    2 18 50 Ronald Bartell DB ..............I am a big fan of Bartell, a CB with great size and athleticism. He will challenge Brown for the starting spot next year, B
    3 2 66 Oshiomogho Atogwe DB ......Should have made the probowl, he will become one of the elite safeties in the league, A+
    3 17 81 Richie Incognito C ............Pick was questioned at the time, took a couple seasons to see the field, but when healthy he is a force, B
    4 16 117 Jerome Carter DB ...........Was a decent backup safety for a couple years, but ultimately he provided the Rams very little, D-
    4 33 134 Claude Terrell G .............Looked to have a solid future with the Rams, health, conditioning, and character issues (woman beater) derailed that, F
    5 8 144 Jerome Collins TE ............One of many TE's the Rams have drafted recently, never did much, F
    6 18 192 Dante Ridgeway WR .......Some were high on him as a sleeper, but never developed, F
    6 36 210 Reggie Hodges P ...........Started for a year, wasn't very good, but did start, D
    7 36 250 Ryan Fitzpatrick QB .......Very good 3rd stringer, successfully lost the Rams 5 draft spots in a comeback win against the Texans, but he did decent when in, B-
    7 37 251 Madison Hedgecock RB ..Superbowl champion.....for the wrong team, I still wonder the rationale behind releasing him, great pick but no longer on team, A

    All in all I'd give this draft a a C. It produced four solid starters in Barron, Incognito, Atogwe, and Hedgecock; a great depth CB who will challenge for starting spot in Bartell; a solid 2nd/3rd string QB in the 7th rd; but it also had 5 guys who did nothing or next to nothing in the NFL.

    I am done arguing, until somebody says something stupid.

  • #2
    49ers - F+.. hahaha no for real though

    1st Round - Alex Smith. 4 Offenses.. 4 Teachers.. 4 years.. 1 ALRIGHT year. Ruling still out because the 49ers still fail to surround him with good lineman for the protection. Everything else is there. Hopefully Mike Martz will get him back on track.

    Grade - N/A

    2 Round - David Baas. Been really solid and is looking to move into a starting role next season. I think this was a good pick by the 49ers.

    Grade - B-

    3rd Round - Frank Gore. Been great for us thus far and really the steal of the draft, IMO. Already has the 49ers rushing records and one of the best running backs in the game right now. If it weren't for the college injuries, would've been a sure fire 1st round pick.

    Grade - A+

    4th Round - Adam Snyder. One of the most decorated lineman in University of Oregon history. I really liked the guy coming out of school. Might be able to the crack at least a back up role on the depth chart with the departure of Kwame Harris and Joe Staley to Left Tackle.

    Grade - C+

    5th Round - Ronald Fields. Alright pick. Career Back up IMO. Much would rather had Trent Cole(Cinci) DE/OLB to play in the 3-4 but hey, that's how the hand was dealt.

    Grade - C

    5th Round - Rasheed Marshall. Not even in the NFL anymore. Converted QB to WR. Never really got to see him play.

    Grade - F

    6th Round - Derrick Johnson. Cornerback. I didn't understand this pick but whatev. He's on the dolphins now.

    Grade - D

    7th Round - Daven Holly.. BLEH! He's on the browns.

    Grade - D

    7th Round - Marcus Maxwell. I thought this guy woulda been a steal. He tore the NFL Europe up last season. I believe he's on the Bengals.

    Grade - C

    7th Round - Billy Bajema. Been solid for us. Great blocker at TE. One of the fan favorites I believe. Good value for a 7th rounder.

    Grade - B-

    7th Round - Patrick Estes. Was a TE in college and converted to LT in the NFL. Good pick up but never got his shot. On the Bills.

    Grade - D

    Overall Grade: B-
    Last edited by YAYareaRB; 03-24-2008, 05:27 PM.


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    • #3
      Chargers 2005 Draft

      Round 1, Pick 12:Shawne Merriman, OLB
      Grade: A+
      If not the most dominant 3-4 OLB in the NFL, then he's at least the second or third, already at this point in his career. Regardless, he's an elite player at his position, and the only blemish on his record has been the failed nandralone test, which, bad publicity or not, has not stopped him from being dominant on the field.

      Round 1, Pick 28:Luis Castillo, DE
      Grade: A-
      Castillo has been an ideal 3-4 DE when healthy, however he has battled injury problems, which is why I gave an A- as opposed to an A. A great player who can be dominant when everything is working for him.

      Round 2, Pick 61: Vincent Jackson, WR
      Grade: B
      Always on the verge of breaking out, Jackson has had two "solid" years as primarily a #2 WR. He broke out strong in the postseason but for now, I'd call him a borderline B, ranging anywhere from a B- to a B+ depending on which stretch your looking at.

      Round 4, Pick 130: Darren Sproles, RB
      Grade: B+
      For where he was drafted Sproles is a great pick. He's a top return specialist, and as an alternate back he provides a lot of explosiveness as was seen in the playoffs and Detroit game this year. Time will tell if he can ever be a complete #2 back, but thats unlikely. Not bad for where he was drafted though.

      Round 5, Pick 164: Wesley Britt, OT
      Grade: F
      I don't even know where he is now, but I do know he didn't do anything with San Diego. Doesn't do much good for us.

      Round 6, Pick 177: Wes Sims, OT
      Grade: F
      Did absolutely nothing with the Chargers. Hard to give anything but an F.

      Round 7, Pick 242 Scott Mrucszkowski, OL
      Grade: B
      Was just resigned, gives depth at multiple O-Line positions for us, nad is an adequate backup. He may not be a superstar, but for a seventh rounder, a role player like that is pretty good value.

      Overall: A-
      You could probably make a case for an A but the draft is very top heavy. Merriman, Castillo, Jackson, and Sproles are great picks, but the fifth and sixth round guys just dropped off the Chargers. The value on Mruczkwoski in the seventh, is why I went with an A- instead of a B+

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      • #4
        Originally posted by JK17 View Post
        Chargers 2005 Draft

        Round 1, Pick 12:Shawne Merriman, OLB
        Grade: A+
        If not the most dominant 3-4 OLB in the NFL, then he's at least the second or third, already at this point in his career. Regardless, he's an elite player at his position, and the only blemish on his record has been the failed nandralone test, which, bad publicity or not, has not stopped him from being dominant on the field.

        Round 1, Pick 28:Luis Castillo, DE
        Grade: A-
        Castillo has been an ideal 3-4 DE when healthy, however he has battled injury problems, which is why I gave an A- as opposed to an A. A great player who can be dominant when everything is working for him.

        Round 2, Pick 61: Vincent Jackson, WR
        Grade: B
        Always on the verge of breaking out, Jackson has had two "solid" years as primarily a #2 WR. He broke out strong in the postseason but for now, I'd call him a borderline B, ranging anywhere from a B- to a B+ depending on which stretch your looking at.

        Round 4, Pick 130: Darren Sproles, RB
        Grade: B+
        For where he was drafted Sproles is a great pick. He's a top return specialist, and as an alternate back he provides a lot of explosiveness as was seen in the playoffs and Detroit game this year. Time will tell if he can ever be a complete #2 back, but thats unlikely. Not bad for where he was drafted though.

        Round 5, Pick 164: Wesley Britt, OT
        Grade: F
        I don't even know where he is now, but I do know he didn't do anything with San Diego. Doesn't do much good for us.

        Round 6, Pick 177: Wes Sims, OT
        Grade: F
        Did absolutely nothing with the Chargers. Hard to give anything but an F.

        Round 7, Pick 242 Scott Mrucszkowski, OL
        Grade: B
        Was just resigned, gives depth at multiple O-Line positions for us, nad is an adequate backup. He may not be a superstar, but for a seventh rounder, a role player like that is pretty good value.

        Overall: A-
        You could probably make a case for an A but the draft is very top heavy. Merriman, Castillo, Jackson, and Sproles are great picks, but the fifth and sixth round guys just dropped off the Chargers. The value on Mruczkwoski in the seventh, is why I went with an A- instead of a B+
        Charges had one of the best drafts in 2005 I give them an (A)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by JK17 View Post
          Chargers 2005 Draft


          You could probably make a case for an A but the draft is very top heavy. Merriman, Castillo, Jackson, and Sproles are great picks, but the fifth and sixth round guys just dropped off the Chargers. The value on Mruczkwoski in the seventh, is why I went with an A- instead of a B+
          Don't sell yourself short. You got an all-pro, two other solid starters (Castillo is border-line pro bowler), and Sproles. Can't hit on every pick, but you hit on the ones that matter. That's an A+!

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          • #6
            Giants 2005 Draft Review
            *Note no 1st Round Pick due to the trade for Eli Manning*

            2nd Round Pick, 43rd Overall: CB Corey Webster, LSU
            Grade: C+/B-

            - Corey fell to Round 2 after an injury plauged junior year the previous year but still was a quality pick in the 2nd. Though he regressed a little bit this year, he showed what he is fully capable of by being our best cover man in our Super Bowl run. Tempted to give a B but i have to see the good play continue over a course of time, not just over a 4 week period.

            Round 3, 74th Overall: DE Justin Tuck, Notre Dame
            Grade: A+

            - Steal of the draft. Tuck has been in the shadows of Strahan and Osi over the past couple of years but has shown he has incredible talent when given the chance and he got his chance this year and was an absolute beast. Showed that he can not only be a force at defensive end, but can play inside as well. A great pick by Accorsi and a future Pro Bowler for many years to come.

            Round 4, 110th Overall: RB Brandon Jacobs, Southern Illinois
            Grade: A

            - Another huge steal. A bruiser of a feature back with break away speed as well. Was a force this year when healthy and given the ball. Having Ahmad Bradshaw and Derrick Ward now will only help to keep him healthy and I expect Jacobs to be in the Top 10 in rushing yards and touchdowns next year, if not pushing for the Top 5. A beast. Quick note though. I believe 3 picks earlier, Dallas grabbed Marion Barber III. Not like me to compliment Dallas, but hell of a pick because if you didn't grab him, he'd be in Big Blue right now.

            Round 6, 186 Overall: DE Eric Moore, Florida St.
            Grade: D-

            - Never made an impact with the Giants. Was always a backup/injured as was eventually let go. I believe he is currently with the Rams and actually worked himself into the rotation this past season.

            Overall, I give this draft a B+/A. I believe Webster will continue his good play and eventually be the 3rd steal of this draft for us and I believe that we landed 2 top 10 players at their position in Tuck and Jacobs. We also got Eli Manning with that 1st round pick in the trade so you can't argue that. Great draft that has set us up very well for the future.

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            • #7
              Atlanta Falcons

              1- 27: Roddy White, WR Alabama Birmingham- A
              Not a A plus, because he struggled in his first two in NFL years with catching the football, although he did manage to get open a lot. Had over 80 receptions, 1,200 receiving yards, and 6 touchdown receptions in a year where Joey Harrington, Byron Leftwich, and Chris Redman were his quarterbacks. Baby Terrell Owens. Great size, power, and ability to make plays although he still drops a few too many balls. Great deep threat. Now seems like a great pick and should stay one with improved quarterback play.

              2- 59: Jonathan Babineaux, UT Iowa- B plus
              This grade may seem a bit high because I like him a bit more than others, but the guy is a playmaker. Makes a lot of plays in the backfield, even if he has not registered a lot of sacks thus far in his career. Chases down ball carriers from behind on sweeps and counters, and plays the screen game very well. I like him a lot and him getting reduced playing time is the only negative to drafting Glenn Dorsey.

              3- 90: Jordan Beck, MLB Cal Poly- D-
              While being a fan favorite and an athletic freak, Beck really did not do much while with the Falcons before being cut in the Bobby Petrino era. Was a nice special teams player, that is all.

              4- 128: Chauncey Davis, DE Florida State- B
              Another player I like. While stout and not too athletic, Davis does his job stuffing the run. He generally stays at home and does not over pursue, and makes a lot of plays at the line of scrimmage. Gets only a couple of sacks a year but really is a nice role player on the team.

              5- 160: Michael Boley, LB Southern Miss- A plus
              Amazing player. Started since his rookie year because of Ed Hartwell being injury prone. His second year was solid but he did not make many big plays. This year he was a playmaker, collecting three sacks, two interceptions, and over 100 tackles from the strong side linebacker position. For those who don't know, that is the most difficult linebacker position to make plays at. Fast, instinctive, powerful, and a ballhawk. Was barely 6'3" 230 coming out of college, now is a fast and athletic 6'3" 240-245. Needs to become more consistent. One of the best in the league.

              5- 163: Frank Omiyale, OT Tennessee Tech.- D-
              Provided depth for a few years before being released. Was probably never a great fit for Alex Gibbs zone blocking scheme.

              6- 201: DeAndre Cobb, RB Michigan State- D-
              Fast player who could make some plays on kick returns but we had Allen Rossum. Wish we had him now for a kick returner. Might get tackled at the 15 at times but would at least bring it to the 50 or for a touchdown on occasion.

              7- 241: Darrell Shropshire, DT South Carolina- C
              Played well for us for a couple years, and many thought he would be the long term starter at defensive nose tackle. Unfortuneately he lost favor and was cut. Still started some games for us and provided depth in others.

              Overall, I would say a B plus. We missed on some picks, but Roddy and Boley are the top players on their respective side of the ball on the team, Babineaux is very good, Chauncey Davis is a very good roleplayer, and Shropshire gave us some solid play. Probably the best draft Rich McKay had for us, unless our latest one turns out very good.
              Last edited by BamaFalcon59; 03-24-2008, 05:48 PM.
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              ACC Champions 2004, 2007, 2008, 2010

              Next Up: 2012

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              • #8
                Giants 2005 draft

                1st Round: Traded pick to San Diego (Superbowl MVP Eli Manning trade)
                2nd: Corey Webster; started slow but really picked up his game this year
                3rd: Justin Tuck; deserves every penny of hefty entension. 10 sacks and had his best game in super bowl 42
                4th: Brandon Jacobs; starting runningback, huge, and making his way into to leagues top backs
                5th: no pick
                6th: Eric Moore; Defensive end who im not sure is still on the team..
                7th: no pick

                Bottom Line: although no 1st, 5th or 7th round picks, Accorsi had one of his best drafts by picking 3 very good players who were all very important in their run to the superbowl.

                Grade: A-
                Dedicated to the chase for back-to-back Superbowl titles. New York Giants for life.

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                • #9
                  ah u beat me to it DI, and put alot more effort into the post i see. good work
                  Dedicated to the chase for back-to-back Superbowl titles. New York Giants for life.

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                  • #10
                    The Bills 2005 draft was absolutely nothing to get excited about. Rosco Parrish was our first pick of the draft and he has been an average WR, and been a great PR. We also had Kevin Everitt. That was about it.

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                    • #11
                      1. Antrel Rolle - C - He had a good year last year and has shown a lot of potential but as most of us thought he needed to be moved to FS and now that h is ther ei expect a huge year

                      2. J.J. Arrington - F - He is used as a 3rd down back, a complete waste of a pick depending on the type of RB we draft I think he will be cut

                      3. Eric Green - B+ - Our starting CB, one of the hardest hitting corners in the league really looked good last year and should be a very soldi corner through out his career

                      3b. Darryl Blackstock - D- - He was only used as a rush linebacker and left though FA never really impressed and didn't get much playing time

                      4. Elton Brown - C - He is a good quality depth guy and for being selected in the 4th i should probably grade him higher but I expected a lot from him

                      5. Lance Mitchell - F- - ...who?

                      7. LeRon McCoy - C+ - I have always loved this guy, felt he could be a great slot receiver of course we were stocked at WR so he never got his shot, not sure where he is now but he has alot of talent and eventually i think someone will let him show it

                      Overall - C-

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by fenikz View Post
                        3. Eric Green - B+ - Our starting CB, one of the hardest hitting corners in the league really looked good last year and should be a very soldi corner through out his career
                        That is a Virginia Tech. player for you.

                        3b. Darryl Blackstock - D- - He was only used as a rush linebacker and left though FA never really impressed and didn't get much playing time

                        4. Elton Brown - C - He is a good quality depth guy and for being selected in the 4th i should probably grade him higher but I expected a lot from him
                        Those are some Virginia players for you.
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                        • #13
                          Round 1 Pick 7 - Troy Williamson

                          F

                          Just a huge bust an exlplenation isn't necessary.


                          Round 1 Pick 18 - Erasmus James

                          C

                          Has been injury prone but at least starts when he is healthy.

                          Round 2 Pick 49 - Marcus Johnson

                          C

                          Hasn't really lived up to expectations but is an ok backup.

                          Round 3 Pick 80 - Dustin Fox

                          F

                          Played one season for the vikes and didn't see the field. A wasted pick.

                          Round 4 Pick 112 - Ciatrick Fason

                          D-

                          Was the goal-line back for a small time but didn't really make any impact.

                          Round 6 Pick 191 - C.J. Mosley

                          C

                          Started two games his rookie year and then went on to the Jets where he was pretty succesful this last year.

                          Round 7 Pick 219 - Adrian Ward

                          F

                          Didn't stick with the team and is out of football.



                          Overall F

                          Just a horrible draft for the vikings. Didn't get any impact players and only one starter after getting a first round pick for Randy Moss.

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                          • #14
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                            1. Carlos Rogers, CB, Auburn (9th overall)- B
                            Shows a lot of promise to be a good #1 CB, good but inconsistent at times. One of the better physical corners in the league, but will get beat sometimes in man coverage. Has good ball skills in terms of locating balls and knocking them down, but has hands of stone, can't get an INT to save their life. Had a major injury last year but he hopes to come back come training camp.
                            1. Jason Campbell, QB, Auburn (25th overall)-B
                            Grade could easily be higher if he becomes that Franchise QB he looks to be, great pick considering he is a late first rounder. Huge cannon, 6-5", decently mobile, his biggest question is reading defenses and understanding offensive schemes, although it's hard for him because including high school the past 7 years, he has had 7 different offensive coordinators.
                            4. Manuel White, FB, UCLA (120th overall)-F
                            Bleh, waste of pick. Tore his knee up a couple years ago, more like a very poor man's Rock Cartwright.
                            5. Robert McCune, ILB, Louisville (154th overall)-D
                            Didn't really do anything but he was such a beast, did some things in special teams but that's it. He is built like the thing, but is very stiff.
                            6. Jared Newberry, OLB, Stanford (183rd overall)-F
                            Don't think he even made the team.
                            7. Nehemiah Broughton, FB, The Citadel (222nd overall)-D
                            I liked him. Very hard runner, thick lower body, but on this roster it was too hard for him to make the roster.

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                            • #15
                              New England on the other hand had a great draft.

                              Logan Mankins- Premier Guard in the NFL right now.
                              Ellis Hobbs- Great #2 CB. I dont think he is #1 CB material yet, but will be forced to step up next year.
                              Nick Kaczur- Loved the pick beause hes from Brantford Ont, Solid Starting LT, but probably would be better as a guard. Struggled at times, such as late this year. Still better than a lot.
                              James Sanders- Underrated DB, who has shown quite a bit. Will get more and more time as the years go on. I like what he can become.
                              Ryan Claridge- Scrub.
                              Matt Cassell- Decent backup. Has played well at times, and horrid at others.
                              Andy Stokes- Scrub.

                              Pretty good draft.

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