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  • #31
    So just by upgrading the talent, but not making the Playoffs is what makes him the GM of the year? please.... Thompson got us out of so much, from cap, age, talent, and coaching.

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    • #32
      But what about Hank Fraley!?!?

      And again, you're both wrong, it's Bill Polian and/or Scott Pioli/Bellicheck.

      The Packers haven't even made a Superbowl with TT and the Browns haven't even made the ******* playoffs. Back up the homer trains, neither guy is even in the top 5 yet. Savage isn't even sniffing it.

      Unless we're just talking about this year, in which case TT is fine.


      Nobody cares about your stupid fantasy team.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by RagingColt View Post
        Polian could win the award every year as he annually finds players that fit his teams style of playing on both OFF and DEF. Think of all the recent gems he's found in rounds 3-7.

        Here's a list of players drafted in the 3rd round or later since Polian has been in Indy:

        2007- LB Clint Session, DT Keyunta Dawson, DT Quin Pitcock
        2006- LB Freddie Keiaho, S Antone Bethea
        2005- G Dylan Gandy, LB Tyjuan Hagler
        2004- Jason David, Jake Scott
        2003- Cato June, Robert Mathis
        2002- David Thorton
        2001- Ryan Diem, Rick DeMulling
        1999- Hunter Smith

        Players in bold are ones that I feel are impact players for the Colts and are starters.
        2007- James Jones, Aaron Rouse, Korey Hall, Mason Crosby, Deshawn Wynn
        2006 - Jason Spitz, Tony Moll, Johnny Jolly,
        2005 - Brady Poppinga, Junius Coston, Mike Montgomery, Will Whittiker

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        • #34
          Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
          But what about Hank Fraley!?!?

          And again, you're both wrong, it's Bill Polian and/or Scott Pioli/Bellicheck.

          The Packers haven't even made a Superbowl with TT and the Browns haven't even made the ******* playoffs. Back up the homer trains, neither guy is even in the top 5 yet. Savage isn't even sniffing it.

          Unless we're just talking about this year, in which case TT is fine.
          Well I guess if you're looking heavily at track record that's true. Thompson hasn't been with the Packers for that long. Looking at the past couple years he's easily been top 5. He deserves a lot of credit for bringing in McCarthy as well, who was an instant success. A lot of his success this year is thanks to good past decisions.

          Thanks to BK for the sig

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          • #35
            Originally posted by umphrey View Post
            Well I guess if you're looking heavily at track record that's true. Thompson hasn't been with the Packers for that long. Looking at the past couple years he's easily been top 5. He deserves a lot of credit for bringing in McCarthy as well, who was an instant success. A lot of his success this year is thanks to good past decisions.
            I'm not sure I even agree with that. The Packers have won a single playoff game in that span. There have been far more successful GM's and teams in that time period. Yes there has been a dramatic turnaround in the last 2 years in terms of wins, but nobody knows if that will be sustained, particularly with Favre gone. Let's not break out the annointing oil before it's actually earned.


            Nobody cares about your stupid fantasy team.

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            • #36
              AJ Smith does some pretty remarkable things as a GM.

              Originally posted by fenikz
              His soft D really turns me off
              ** RIP themaninblack. You will be missed. **

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              • #37
                Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                Both Accorsi's and Reese's. The problem with Accorsi was he was too active in FA, and often kept around talent or drafted talent that was injury prone. Reese got rid of all our cancers, and injury prone guys and drafted guys that fit our system.

                Thats another thing Accorsi never did, Accorsi didn't draft guys into a system, he just drafted whoever he thought was good. Reese specifically targets talent that is maximized under the systems theyre being drafted into: examples being Ross, Alford, Smith, and Bradshaw.

                I don't disagree with Thompson getting the nod, theres a lot of good GMs in this league. Reese could very well be a one year wonder for all we know.






                While Accorsi's players finally stepped up Reese has done alot more than people will give him credit for. He stared down Strahan and didn't give him more money when he was holding out, and also cut Luke P., which at the time was a big move because he was a long time vet on this team. One key move was locking up Justin Tuck as well.


                Found this on BBI..

                Ted Thompson

                Drafted players:

                1 Justin Harrell DT Tennessee
                2 Brandon Jackson RB Nebraska
                3 James Jones WR San Jose State
                3 Aaron Rouse SAF Virginia Tech
                4 Allen Barbre G Missouri Southern State
                5 David Clowney WR Virginia Tech
                6 Korey Hall FB Boise State
                6 Desmond Bishop LB California
                6 Mason Crosby K Colorado
                7 DeShawn Wynn RB Florida
                7 Clark Harris TE Rutgers

                outside of Crosby, who in this draft really contributed?? Harell, their first round draft pick only started 2 games and played in 7 games total.

                Free agents acquired:
                Craig Nall QB
                Daniel Muir DT
                Conrad Bolston DT
                Ryan Krause TE
                Orrin Thompsn OT
                Ryan Grant RB (trade)
                John Kuhn FB (waiver)
                Tramon Williams CB
                Ryan Powdrell FB



                Jerry Reese

                Draft:
                1 Aaron Ross CB Texas
                2 Steve Smith WR USC
                3 Jay Alford NT Penn State
                4 Zak DeOssie LB Brown
                5 Kevin Boss TE Western Oregon
                6 Adam Koets T Oregon State
                7 Michael Johnson SAF Arizona
                7 Ahmad Bradshaw RB Marshall



                Free agents:

                Anthony Wright QB
                Rueben Droughns RB (trade)
                Danny Ware RB
                Madison Hedgecock FB (waivers)
                Domenik Hixon WR (waivers)
                Michael Matthews TE
                Dave Tollefson DE
                Kavika Mitchell LB
                Geoffrey Pope CB
                Lawrence Tynes K

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                • #38
                  Thompson is a good GM but the the building blocks for the Packers were there already. 2005 was an injury riddled year for the Packers and they were actually a better team than there 4-12 record. Thompson completed the team with Woodson(who was miraculously still on the market in early April or late March) and hired a great coach so I guess he deserves to win. I gvie McCarthy way more credit for the Packers success, but McCarthy was hired by Thompson. Plus he has been able to retain all his young players and set this team up for the post Favre era. The key will be Rodgers,Harell and how Jenning/Jones perform without Favre. Hawk is a no-brainer solid pick.

                  Thompson inherited, Favre future HOFer, Driver, two solid tackles in Clifton, Taushcer, Barnett, Al Harris, and two solid DEs in Kampman/Barnett. Pretty much the backbone of any team. They won 3 or 4 North Championships in a row before Thompson. Because of cap problems before the jump in the cap, Thompson did the only thing he could do in cut Wahle,Rivera and Sharper. He was able to complete the team with guys like Pickett,Jennings/Jones and got a great find in Ryan Grant.

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                  • #39
                    I gotta give credit to Bill Polian.

                    But it's hard for him to win the award currently considering how the Colts are built--- for stability and NOT for intriguing big moves.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Shockey+Manning=Shocking View Post
                      While Accorsi's players finally stepped up Reese has done alot more than people will give him credit for. He stared down Strahan and didn't give him more money when he was holding out, and also cut Luke P., which at the time was a big move because he was a long time vet on this team. One key move was locking up Justin Tuck as well.


                      Found this on BBI..

                      Ted Thompson

                      Drafted players:

                      1 Justin Harrell DT Tennessee
                      2 Brandon Jackson RB Nebraska
                      3 James Jones WR San Jose State
                      3 Aaron Rouse SAF Virginia Tech
                      4 Allen Barbre G Missouri Southern State
                      5 David Clowney WR Virginia Tech
                      6 Korey Hall FB Boise State
                      6 Desmond Bishop LB California
                      6 Mason Crosby K Colorado
                      7 DeShawn Wynn RB Florida
                      7 Clark Harris TE Rutgers

                      outside of Crosby, who in this draft really contributed?? Harell, their first round draft pick only started 2 games and played in 7 games total.

                      Free agents acquired:
                      Craig Nall QB
                      Daniel Muir DT
                      Conrad Bolston DT
                      Ryan Krause TE
                      Orrin Thompsn OT
                      Ryan Grant RB (trade)
                      John Kuhn FB (waiver)
                      Tramon Williams CB
                      Ryan Powdrell FB



                      Jerry Reese

                      Draft:
                      1 Aaron Ross CB Texas
                      2 Steve Smith WR USC
                      3 Jay Alford NT Penn State
                      4 Zak DeOssie LB Brown
                      5 Kevin Boss TE Western Oregon
                      6 Adam Koets T Oregon State
                      7 Michael Johnson SAF Arizona
                      7 Ahmad Bradshaw RB Marshall



                      Free agents:

                      Anthony Wright QB
                      Rueben Droughns RB (trade)
                      Danny Ware RB
                      Madison Hedgecock FB (waivers)
                      Domenik Hixon WR (waivers)
                      Michael Matthews TE
                      Dave Tollefson DE
                      Kavika Mitchell LB
                      Geoffrey Pope CB
                      Lawrence Tynes K
                      James Jones was our third WR and played great. Jackson got better at the end of the year. Rouse looked impressive in his 1 start, but got hurt. Hall started at FB. Wynn had a big run against the Giants to seal the win. And was tearing up the bears before he got hurt. As for FA's, we all know what Grant did. And Kuhn shared time with Hall. Williams was a KR and i believe he eventually became the Nickel back



                      Sig thanks to Bonekrusher

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
                        But what about Hank Fraley!?!?

                        And again, you're both wrong, it's Bill Polian and/or Scott Pioli/Bellicheck.

                        The Packers haven't even made a Superbowl with TT and the Browns haven't even made the ******* playoffs. Back up the homer trains, neither guy is even in the top 5 yet. Savage isn't even sniffing it.

                        Unless we're just talking about this year, in which case TT is fine.
                        Relax bro sounds like you woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Do you want every poster that has an opinion to not share it? Or are you just saying if you dont agree we should keep it to ourselves?

                        I gave very good reasons with my answer to take it one step out of the "homer" position.

                        The post was to point out what our GM has accomplished. I even said in my post that in my opinion I thought Ted Thompson should be the winner.

                        Once again a respected poster to this board over values his own opinions. You dont think it should have been Ted THompson? 19 of the the NFL's 48 executives seemed to agree it should be.
                        Last edited by DawgBone; 03-26-2008, 12:06 PM.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by GB12 View Post
                          He would have been fired if they were under .500.
                          Use something substancial for your arguement. Not "what ifs".
                          Last edited by DawgBone; 03-26-2008, 12:20 PM.

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                          • #43
                            sorry delete this.
                            Last edited by DawgBone; 03-26-2008, 12:19 PM.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by DawgBone View Post
                              The Packers had a good year because they werent injured like the year before. They played some pretty easy teams that the AFC doesnt get the luxeury of playing.

                              Most teams would die to get to play the Lions, Bears, and Viks twice in the 2007 season.
                              The last time the Browns played the Lions, the Lions won.

                              The Bears have been pretty strong until their collapse this year and I don't think anyone will enjoy playing Adrian Peterson and that run D twice a year. Everyone might enjoy playing the Lions, but the Browns have been the Lions of the AFC North until last year.

                              The AFC North has the same problems as the NFC North with 1 dimensional teams with one solid team in Pittsburgh/Green Bay. Cincy has the O but no D, Cleveland has been the doormat with no D like the Lions with weapons like Braylon/Winslow, Baltimore has the D but no Offense and are inconsistent from year to year like the Vikings.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Maybe Next Year Millen2 View Post
                                The last time the Browns played the Lions, the Lions won.

                                The Bears have been pretty strong until their collapse this year and I don't think anyone will enjoy playing Adrian Peterson and that run D twice a year. Everyone might enjoy playing the Lions, but the Browns have been the Lions of the AFC North until last year.

                                The AFC North has the same problems as the NFC North with 1 dimensional teams with one solid team in Pittsburgh/Green Bay. Cincy has the O but no D, Cleveland has been the doormat with no D like the Lions with weapons like Braylon/Winslow, Baltimore has the D but no Offense and are inconsistent from year to year like the Vikings.
                                "The last time the Browns played the Lions, the Lions won. "

                                The last time that happened the Browns also sucked and I wouldnt have even chimed in on this thread.

                                And why is everyone throwing out the fact that we didnt make the playoffs? If the Colts didnt give up on their season to rest like half the NFL the Browns would have been in. Its a joke that the season last 16 games, but the NFL cant even get them to show up for all 16.
                                Last edited by DawgBone; 03-26-2008, 12:29 PM.

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