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  • #31
    Brodie Croylez >>>>>>>> Favrez
    my scent?...like making love to a lumberjack
    <TACKLE> i will ngata give you a bj raji
    <+BOE> Scott, with Burfict's character concerns (whether legit or not) you think Pioli would draft him. :D
    <+ScottWright> Why not. Baldwin does need a sparring partner...
    Originally posted by Hermstheman83
    What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.

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    • #32
      This is one of the reasons why i think ESPN is a huge crock of sh*t. I hate them.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by yo123 View Post
        If you honestly think they still have an elite offense without Favre your kidding yourself.

        AD himself makes it a pretty solid offense, and T-Jack made solid improvements throughout the season. The offense doesn't need to be great if you have the kind of talent we have on D.
        They looked pretty good with Rodgers at the helm in the Dallas game. All Rodgers needs to do is throw short passes and not make mistakes, just like Favre did all last season.

        You're right, AD is a great player and if healthy gives some offence some legitimacy. Unfortunately, Jackson is probably the worst starting quarterback in the league, the offensive line can't pass block, and the receivers are mediocre at best. Not sure how that translates to being the "team to beat", but OK.

        Green Bay's defence is just as good, if not better than the Vikings.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Crickett View Post
          Really?

          RB
          OL
          WR/TE
          DL
          LB
          DB
          K
          P


          Please, point to one and tell me where the Packers are weak.
          WeakER. No one ever said they were weak at positions, someone said they were better top to bottom than the Vikings.
          We are comparing the two teams not analyzing one team.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by yo123 View Post
            We were one game away from the playoffs last year, that's hardly "bad." I don't see how the addition of one of the best pass rushers in the game can't put us over the top, when that was the only thing holding us back from being a top 3 defense.
            Your pass rush was not holding you back. Your offense was. Until that passing game works, the Vikings are terrible and will continue to miss the playoffs.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Duster View Post
              Your pass rush was not holding you back. Your offense was. Until that passing game works, the Vikings are terrible and will continue to miss the playoffs.
              Bernard Berrian will help tremendously in the passing game. Plus, JDB will have some time to shine this year!!!! (jk)


              Originally posted by Halsey
              I don't have to watch it to know it was not interesting.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Turtlepower View Post
                DL - Vikings (The best 4-3 DL now that Strahan retired)
                LB - Packers (Quality on all fronts here)
                DB - Packers (The Packers sport two quality CBs, but if Al Harris plays like he did in the NFC Championship game, their secondary will struggle. The Vikings have some very nice youth in Griffin and McCauley, but they really need consistency for their secondary to be better than the Packers.)
                Instead of looking at certain sections of an offense and defense how about you analyze them as a whole.
                The Vikings D > Packers D, despite what you have typed above.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Duster View Post
                  Your pass rush was not holding you back. Your offense was. Until that passing game works, the Vikings are terrible and will continue to miss the playoffs.


                  I said it was holding back our defense, do you even read what I'm typing? No matter how you feel about the Vikings, we aren't terrible, even your fellow Packer fans will tell you that. You are just a giant homer if you honestly think that.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Turtlepower View Post
                    Bernard Berrian will help tremendously in the passing game. Plus, JDB will have some time to shine this year!!!! (jk)
                    Berrian is a nice deep threat but I'm not sold Jackson can get him the ball, considering he has trouble simply taking a 3-step drop. He looks like a high school quarterback out there. No fundamentals at all.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Bruce Banner View Post
                      Instead of looking at certain sections of an offense and defense how about you analyze them as a whole.
                      The Vikings D > Packers D, despite what you have typed above.
                      The Vikings D-line is much better than the Packers, but as a whole, the Packers are a better defense. They have more depth and aren't necessarily weak at any 1 position. The Vikings have the opportunity to be a better defense this year with all of the youth they have in the secondary, but at this moment, the Packers have the nod.


                      Originally posted by Halsey
                      I don't have to watch it to know it was not interesting.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Bruce Banner View Post
                        Instead of looking at certain sections of an offense and defense how about you analyze them as a whole.
                        The Vikings D > Packers D, despite what you have typed above.
                        Not last year, that's for sure. Packers were one of the elite units in the league, Vikings were middle of the pack at best.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Duster View Post
                          Not last year, that's for sure. Packers were one of the elite units in the league, Vikings were middle of the pack at best.


                          We aren't talking about last year. We're talking about this year. We weren't elite because of our lack of a pass rush, which we now have.

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                          • #43
                            The pass rush dictates a defense. (see Giants/Pats SB)
                            The Vikings have by far the best 4 man front pass rush.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by yo123 View Post
                              I said it was holding back our defense, do you even read what I'm typing? No matter how you feel about the Vikings, we aren't terrible, even your fellow Packer fans will tell you that. You are just a giant homer if you honestly think that.
                              Vikings only won games last year based on the strength of AD. He was far important to your few successes than Favre was to Green Bay's. Green Bay is a proven championship contender, the Vikings are a team hoping that all of their pieces work out and they can earn a playoff birth. Everything is rosey for teams like the Vikings in July but it will all change when reality hits around October.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Bruce Banner View Post
                                WeakER. No one ever said they were weak at positions, someone said they were better top to bottom than the Vikings.
                                We are comparing the two teams not analyzing one team.
                                Sorry, I quoted the wrong post.

                                Originally posted by yo123 View Post
                                It's not just what we did. It's who the Packers lost. Without Favre, you are an 8-8 team.
                                If the Packers are a .500 team without a hall of fame one of the greatest of all time quarterbacks behind center, they need to have some sort of glaring weakness on their roster somewhere. I want to know where that is. Okay, since I know they don't actually have one, I'd actually like to know where yo thinks it is. So I can laugh.


                                Btw, "unproven" and "proven to be bad" doesn't make two QB situations even.

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