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  • The Giants....are we being unfair?

    I know I've been in the camp that they were a) not that good last year, as their 10-6 record would indicate, b) got hot at the right time and c) would take a small step back this year with the defection of Strahan and Shockey, which was later compounded by losing Osi for the year.

    All told, I was seeing a 8 or 9 wins, with a decent shot at reaching 10 again and like a 50-50 chance at the playoffs.

    However, now that we have seen them in action for the first time.....do we need to re-evaluate? They looked very strong along both lines against the Skins, and their run game was terrific. Jacobs looks strong as always, even though injuries are always the big question with him, and Eli was composed and sharp for the first half at least. They have questions on the back end defensively, but most teams have something like that they are dealing with.

    So, should we give the Giants more credit here as a potential 11 or 12 win team that might be legitimately in the NFC mix, is this a case of us not realizing the Redskins are really, really bad, or is it all just too much reading into one game?

    Obviously one game does not tell the whole story of a team. Last year should have taught us that if we didn't have it down pat yet. But I personally saw enough to warrant a little bit of a second look. Thoughts?
    Originally posted by 21ST
    He was protecting his self
    Originally posted by tjsunstein
    From what? His leg?
    Originally posted by Paranoidmoonduck
    That leg has had it out for him since day 1.
    "We're the quiet guys, the guys before the storm. And then we hit you."

    DeMarcus Ware

  • #2
    well they looked the part against the Skins, but then again I'm not really convinced the skins are in such good shape right now. The giants will probably win about 10-11 games this year, and that's about where they deserve to be.

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    • #3
      I agree, I guess you can say because I am a Giants fan but say what you want other than Eli (and terrible Red-Zone play calling) the whole team was excellent. I can easily see 11-12 wins for the Giants, that'd make for a great NFC East division fight between the Cowboys and the Giants, both can go 12-4 IMO. If Eli can just be the Eli he was in the playoffs the Giants will have a great year. Tuck looked great, Burress was just playing with kindergardeners, Jacobs is just an unstoppable force, Eli looked good in the first half, and the secondary looks much improved, while the LB corp. is probably average at beast, but Gerris has potential, Danny Clark might surprise some people, and we know what we are getting with Antonio Pierce so it isn't all that weak. Boss was solid, and the O-line looked great all-around in the run and pass block. Eli needs to stay consistent, we need to pray Kiwi doesn't get injured, Danny Clark, Gerris Wilkinson, James Butler need to step up, the offense needs to do what they did last night, and the Tuck needs to be Tuck, and we can be a great team.

      Bone Krusher, the best

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      • #4
        Obviously this question is addressed to those--whether they be a Giant fan or not--who were previously at least a little bit skeptical about them as a legit contender in the NFC this year. FYI
        Originally posted by 21ST
        He was protecting his self
        Originally posted by tjsunstein
        From what? His leg?
        Originally posted by Paranoidmoonduck
        That leg has had it out for him since day 1.
        "We're the quiet guys, the guys before the storm. And then we hit you."

        DeMarcus Ware

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Malaka View Post
          I agree, I guess you can say because I am a Giants fan but say what you want other than Eli (and terrible Red-Zone play calling) the whole team was excellent. I can easily see 11-12 wins for the Giants, that'd make for a great NFC East division fight between the Cowboys and the Giants, both can go 12-4 IMO. If Eli can just be the Eli he was in the playoffs the Giants will have a great year. Tuck looked great, Burress was just playing with kindergardeners, Jacobs is just an unstoppable force, Eli looked good in the first half, and the secondary looks much improved, while the LB corp. is probably average at beast, but Gerris has potential, Danny Clark might surprise some people, and we know what we are getting with Antonio Pierce so it isn't all that weak. Boss was solid, and the O-line looked great all-around in the run and pass block. Eli needs to stay consistent, we need to pray Kiwi doesn't get injured, Danny Clark, Gerris Wilkinson, James Butler need to step up, the offense needs to do what they did last night, and the Tuck needs to be Tuck, and we can be a great team.
          I like how you combine 'best' and 'least' there, very clever. ;)

          Since I don't see a whole lot of games, could someone please tell me where the Skins are strong? I didn't see a whole lot go well, and it seemed almost like they're just avarage at every position except running back and strong safety.

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          • #6
            I think its the Skins who need to be reevaluated. They looked like the 2007 Chiefs in that game.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Basileus777 View Post
              I think its the Skins who need to be reevaluated. They looked like the 2007 Chiefs in that game.
              *giggle* :D
              Originally posted by 21ST
              He was protecting his self
              Originally posted by tjsunstein
              From what? His leg?
              Originally posted by Paranoidmoonduck
              That leg has had it out for him since day 1.
              "We're the quiet guys, the guys before the storm. And then we hit you."

              DeMarcus Ware

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              • #8
                Practically every team that won its 1st SB also won its opening game the next season, and then the screws came off and most of them floundered the rest of the year.
                So no, I don't think we are being tough on the Giants, they will be extremely lucky to make the playoffs.
                And proud of it!!!

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                • #9
                  As good as the Giants looked, the Skins looked poor and the scoreline was hardly too convincing.

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                  • #10
                    The skins looked pitiful and the Giants only beat them by nine at home. I think they'll win 9 games and get put out in the first round of the playoffs. They just lost too many players from last season.
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                    • #11
                      It's difficult to judge a team by their first game. Every expert will tell you not too get too caught up after a team's first game.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DMWSackMachine View Post
                        I know I've been in the camp that they were a) not that good last year, as their 10-6 record would indicate, b) got hot at the right time and c) would take a small step back this year with the defection of Strahan and Shockey, which was later compounded by losing Osi for the year.

                        All told, I was seeing a 8 or 9 wins, with a decent shot at reaching 10 again and like a 50-50 chance at the playoffs.

                        However, now that we have seen them in action for the first time.....do we need to re-evaluate? They looked very strong along both lines against the Skins, and their run game was terrific. Jacobs looks strong as always, even though injuries are always the big question with him, and Eli was composed and sharp for the first half at least. They have questions on the back end defensively, but most teams have something like that they are dealing with.

                        So, should we give the Giants more credit here as a potential 11 or 12 win team that might be legitimately in the NFC mix, is this a case of us not realizing the Redskins are really, really bad, or is it all just too much reading into one game?

                        Obviously one game does not tell the whole story of a team. Last year should have taught us that if we didn't have it down pat yet. But I personally saw enough to warrant a little bit of a second look. Thoughts?
                        There's no need to re-evaluate your opinion. You seem to have it down pretty well.

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                        • #13
                          I would consider the Giants an 11 or 12 win team but their offense sort of sputtered after the first half against a Redskins team that wasn't playing very well defensively. They probably should have put up more than 16.

                          However, the Giants will make the playoffs. I'm not sold on another SB berth just yet, but this is a team with a lot of talent on both sides of the football. They will make the playoffs in 2008.

                          Originally posted by fenikz
                          His soft D really turns me off
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                          • #14
                            The giants have played to the level of their opponents for a few years now. We don't blow many teams out, but we play better teams very tough. You can expect that to continue this season. Overall I'm expecting 10-11 wins and maybe a playoff win, but I'd be very surprised if we made back to the superbowl or even the NFC title game without someone just going completely insane during this season and beasting out, like Tuck last year.

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                            • #15
                              I agree with Basileus. The Giants weren't bad on whole but the offense goes with Eli and he was spotty. The defense had very little challenge from the Redskins. I originally thought the Giants would win 8 games, give or take one, and I stand by that.

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