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  • #61
    If they want Curry (which they should, he's the best pick), they have to do it at #3. He won't be there later than that. No one wants to get in front of Seattle because no one knows what Seattle's going to do (aside from NOT pick Curry).
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    Last edited by nepg; 09-17-2011, 06:58 AM.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Basileus777 View Post
      I agree that #3 is a bit of a reach for a non-pass rushing linebacker like Curry. But since we don't need a LT or QB now, anyone else we take there is going to be a reach. I don't know if a trade down is really possible, the 3rd pick in the draft is really hard to trade.
      Like i said, there may be a team that wants to leap frog Seattle to assure themselves of getting Sanchez. They don't have to follow the stupid draft chart to get value, if they move down 5 or 6 spots and pick up a 3rd in the process, call it a deal and move down. Save yourself money, pick up an extra pick and you get better value for the player you want.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Xiomera View Post
        A little part of me is pissed that the Lions didn't make this trade.

        They obviously need a QB, so why not trade #20 for Cassel and then use #1 on someone else as so many people are screaming to do?
        I'm not sure I'd like for my franchise QB to be 30 when the team finally turned around.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Basileus777 View Post
          I agree that #3 is a bit of a reach for a non-pass rushing linebacker like Curry. But since we don't need a LT or QB now, anyone else we take there is going to be a reach. I don't know if a trade down is really possible, the 3rd pick in the draft is really hard to trade.
          I've talked about this on Chiefs Planet before, but what about Everette Brown at #3? Even with Vrabel, the 3-4 is not going to work unless we have a dominant edge rusher.

          I just don't think a 3-4 ILB is a great choice for a top 3 pick.


          Originally posted by BrownsTown

          If Chase Daniel finishes top 5 in the Heisman I'll cut my balls off.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by mqtirishfan View Post
            I'm not sure I'd like for my franchise QB to be 30 when the team finally turned around.
            What the hell does it matter. Quarterbacks have a longer career span than pretty much any other position, so if he can play, he can play.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by eazyb81 View Post
              I've talked about this on Chiefs Planet before, but what about Everette Brown at #3? Even with Vrabel, the 3-4 is not going to work unless we have a dominant edge rusher.

              I just don't think a 3-4 ILB is a great choice for a top 3 pick.
              I really want Everette Brown, but I'd rather trade down first.



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              Ok I'd almost rather spank my meat with sandpaper at this point.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by eazyb81 View Post
                I've talked about this on Chiefs Planet before, but what about Everette Brown at #3? Even with Vrabel, the 3-4 is not going to work unless we have a dominant edge rusher.

                I just don't think a 3-4 ILB is a great choice for a top 3 pick.
                Everette Brown would be a horrible reach.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by adschofield View Post
                  I really want Everette Brown, but I'd rather trade down first.
                  Definitely, but I'm going with the assumption that we couldn't. Trading down would be ideal no matter what though.


                  Originally posted by BrownsTown

                  If Chase Daniel finishes top 5 in the Heisman I'll cut my balls off.

                  2008 COTTON BOWL CHAMPIONS

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by MetSox17 View Post
                    What the hell does it matter. Quarterbacks have a longer career span than pretty much any other position, so if he can play, he can play.
                    Either way, if both pan out, he likely has 6 less years or so than Stafford, and less potential.

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                    • #70
                      I think an important aspect of this trade, is the fact that the pats have just cleared up 17 million in cap space.

                      I don't mind the early 2nd, i think its fair value, and I'd expect a conditional pick next year or a 4th-5th this year to be involved somewhere.

                      Either way, I'll take it for the free agents we could try and get in now, and the flexibility it gives us on draft day. We will have our first, 3 seconds, and 2 thirds (once we get our compensatory from Samuel).

                      All in all, it looks good.
                      Breed's QB Philosophy:
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                      At the end of the day...

                      Mobility > Accuracy

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by mqtirishfan View Post
                        Either way, if both pan out, he likely has 6 less years or so than Stafford, and less potential.
                        And you wouldn't be risking half as much as you would with Stafford, so pick your poison.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by MetSox17 View Post
                          What the hell does it matter. Quarterbacks have a longer career span than pretty much any other position, so if he can play, he can play.
                          Especially since he's 26, and has played 1 full year in his last 8.
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by MetSox17 View Post
                            Everette Brown would be a horrible reach.
                            Pretty much anything is a reach at this point, whether it's reaching for an individual player or a reach based on value.

                            If KC stays at 3, they basically will have to take a very good right tackle or inside LB, or reach for a player at a premium position like OLB or DT, even though the individual players may not warrant being picked that high.


                            Originally posted by BrownsTown

                            If Chase Daniel finishes top 5 in the Heisman I'll cut my balls off.

                            2008 COTTON BOWL CHAMPIONS

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by BradysKnee View Post
                              I think an important aspect of this trade, is the fact that the pats have just cleared up 17 million in cap space.

                              I don't mind the early 2nd, i think its fair value, and I'd expect a conditional pick next year or a 4th-5th this year to be involved somewhere.

                              Either way, I'll take it for the free agents we could try and get in now, and the flexibility it gives us on draft day. We will have our first, 3 seconds, and 2 thirds (once we get our compensatory from Samuel).

                              All in all, it looks good.
                              Not really. They haven't cleared anything because the 17 million never went against the cap.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Geo View Post
                                That moron King might know, considering he lives on the inside rim of the Patriots' collective asshole.

                                If all the Chiefs had to give up was their 2nd round pick, for both Cassel and Vrabel, that's not too bad.
                                If it's a second round pick, I say New England got pretty ripped off. Great deal for Kansas City. I would expect a 2 and a 2 or 3 next year, but really I'd be looking for first-round value here, especially if Vrabel is included in the deal. However, this does end up freeing up ~$18 million in cap room that would allow New England to improve the rest of their roster. I expect New England to sign Leigh Bodden soon - he's a good fit.

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