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  • Michael Vick looks scary good.

    I've watched almost every pro game the guy has played and he just may be a better football player right now than he's ever been. He seems focused on football and the Eagles seem like a good place for him to be. No matter what happens with Kolb, the Eagles are going to get Vick on the field a lot.

    p.s. If Vick keeps this up he will be the prize of the 2011 offseason.

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    I didnt know you were into men.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Halsey View Post
      I've watched almost every pro game the guy has played and he just may be a better football player right now than he's ever been. He seems focused on football and the Eagles seem like a good place for him to be. No matter what happens with Kolb, the Eagles are going to get Vick on the field a lot.

      p.s. If Vick keeps this up he will be the prize of the 2011 offseason.
      But what about all the Vickuses???

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      • #4
        He and Buffalo seem like a match made in heaven.

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        • #5
          I said it in another thread, but that whole jail stint might have progressed him big time.

          He obviously matured as a person, and he became a dedicated worker that was willing to fix his flaws, and he had two years to rest and rejuvenate, and now his passion for football is burning bright.

          He might be evolving into that guy he should have been.
          Originally posted by SNIPER26
          fwiw, i amz deunks ofs myt ass. ilo vez drinmoinz befotre i post. wha t a hreat ideas.z.

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          • #6
            After today, I really don't see how any coach in his right mind pulls him to play Kevin Kolb. I still don't understand why Reid shipped McNabb to Philadelphia so that Kolb could play. Didn't he throw like 4 interceptions against bad teams in his two games last year? I know one of them was the Chiefs, and last year they were terrible. Andy Reid needs to accept that Vick has played much better than Kolb and gives his team a better chance to win- they look like a playoff team with Vick. Vick's only 4 years older than Kolb. If it's my decision, I say they stick with the (very) hot hand and see how high Vick's ceiling actually is. I don't see what should compel them to adamantly insist that there's something great in store for a guy who most people thought was a reach when they took in him the second round. Dropping McNabb might've been a pretty bad move. Andy Reid should be thrilled that Michael Vick could end up making him look really good.

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            • #7
              That dude can definantly ball. Andy Reid needs to stop being bull headed and realize theirs two ways to proove moving Mcnabb was the right decision and one of them has been doing just that the last two weeks and latch onto that. I just don't see any logic in risking getting a failing grade at the end of the semester sticking with what you believe to be the correct answers when the kid sitting next to you aced his last two exams and is willing to help you pass the class.. Pardon my flawed analogy or what ever I did there.
              Last edited by trkaline; 09-20-2010, 04:13 AM.

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              • #8
                Here is why Andy doesn't want the Eagles to rely on Vick, his contract expires at the end of the season, he is leaving in free agency. Why bail on Kolb to play Vick, still be an average team and then go back to square one next season? Kevin Kolb is the guy the Eagles handed the keys to, not Vick. Kevin Kolb is the guy the Eagles are paying upwards of 7 million dollars this year. Kevin Kolb is the guy the Eagles want to become the starter, not Vick. From a pure wins v losses, this season only standpoint the smart move would certainly be to start Vick, it is clear that Vick is better than ever, better than he ever was in ATL. BUT, why do that and set your team back a year? I mean it isn't like the Eagles are going to compete, that offensive line and defense are not going to hold up no matter who you put at QB. Basically the Eagles take their lumps this season and come out next season with an experienced Kevin Kolb, Kevin Kolb has served his time holding the clipboard, there is only so much he can develop on the bench, he needs real playing time if the Eagles want to have long term success.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by yourfavestoner View Post
                  He and Buffalo seem like a match made in heaven.
                  I'm feel really uneasy about that. While I absolutely see where you're going with this, Chan Gailey's spread, their lack of talent at QB and OT, the dangerous running weapons and Lee Evans is a good fit on the field. But my issue lies with Mike Vick living in Buffalo, so many players have lost focus playing in that town for a mediocre squad that hasn't put together enough talent to come together at the right time with the right coaches in a long ass time. I worry that Mike Vick might start losing focus if he has a rough first year in Buffalo, although it is a move I could see happening, the on the field things mentioned above, his excitement factor and the Bills desperate need for someone who won't get mentally wrecked playing behind that OL the way Trent Edwards was, and I would be hoping works out if it does happen.

                  I still think that by the offseason Jake Locker will have cemented himself as a legit top pick candidate and Buffalo will have made that move while focusing more on the OT position in FA, be it taking a risk on Jared Gaither or something else. IMO if the Bills could make a move for Gaither, draft Locker, if he shows the continued progress I expect, and then grab another rush backer, they'd be a team heading in the right direction real fast.

                  The secondary is talented and deep, the DL has two prospects who I like a whole hell of a lot and at LB they're strong up the middle and have a lot of potential on the edge, although the lack of production there is worrisome given the talent in place.

                  Offensively they have a good interior OL, Woods and Levitre are really paying off and will be anchors of the OL for years, Lee Evans can still burn teams deep and they have Freddie Jackson and CJ Spiller out of the backfield. Now add Jared Gaither at LT and Jake Locker is in a nice situation where some more studs at WR and OLB are the only thing separating his weapons from championship caliber weapons. Plus if Gailey's system is to succeed at the NFL level it'll take someone with the wheels of a Jake Locker, Mike Vick or Vince Young.
                  Last edited by Rosebud; 09-20-2010, 04:44 AM.

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                  Originally posted by AcheTen
                  JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
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                  Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
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                  Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Werowance View Post
                    Here is why Andy doesn't want the Eagles to rely on Vick, his contract expires at the end of the season, he is leaving in free agency. Why bail on Kolb to play Vick, still be an average team and then go back to square one next season? Kevin Kolb is the guy the Eagles handed the keys to, not Vick. Kevin Kolb is the guy the Eagles are paying upwards of 7 million dollars this year. Kevin Kolb is the guy the Eagles want to become the starter, not Vick. From a pure wins v losses, this season only standpoint the smart move would certainly be to start Vick, it is clear that Vick is better than ever, better than he ever was in ATL. BUT, why do that and set your team back a year? I mean it isn't like the Eagles are going to compete, that offensive line and defense are not going to hold up no matter who you put at QB. Basically the Eagles take their lumps this season and come out next season with an experienced Kevin Kolb, Kevin Kolb has served his time holding the clipboard, there is only so much he can develop on the bench, he needs real playing time if the Eagles want to have long term success.
                    As Herman Edwards once said, "You play to win the game." All of the financial business can wait until after the season. Philadelphia needs to live in the present and take care of their current agenda, which is winning football games. If Vick gives them the best chance to win, he should be the starter. Do you know the backlash Andy Reid and the Philadelphia Eagles brass would receive if Kolb gets inserted back into the starting lineup after Vick has played pretty decent ball? It wouldn't sit well with the fans, and it probably wouldn't sit well with the locker room. And the media would only add fuel to the fire. Especially if Kolb gets back in and starts losing games.

                    As for Vick potentially leaving, I'd be surprised. Especially if he did well as a starter and the Eagles had a good season. Why take the chance of going elsewhere and hoping that things would work out on a new team if you've finally found a good place where you can settle in and be a productive starter? And I doubt a team offers a huge payday to Vick in free agency. His best bet would be to stay with the Eagles if he does well.

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                    Oh, my bad. Didn't realize SWDC was the pinnacle of class and grace.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ness View Post
                      As Herman Edwards once said, "You play to win the game." All of the financial business can wait until after the season. Philadelphia needs to live in the present and take care of their current agenda, which is winning football games. If Vick gives them the best chance to win, he should be the starter. Do you know the backlash Andy Reid and the Philadelphia Eagles brass would receive if Kolb gets inserted back into the starting lineup after Vick has played pretty decent ball? It wouldn't sit well with the fans, and it probably wouldn't sit well with the locker room. And the media would only add fuel to the fire. Especially if Kolb gets back in and starts losing games.

                      As for Vick potentially leaving, I'd be surprised. Especially if he did well as a starter and the Eagles had a good season. Why take the chance of going elsewhere and hoping that things would work out on a new team if you've finally found a good place where you can settle in and be a productive starter? And I doubt a team offers a huge payday to Vick in free agency. His best bet would be to stay with the Eagles if he does well.
                      You see but the Eagles are run by three egomaniacs (Banner, Roseman, Reid) and they won't give up on Kolb so soon, even if they should. They will not admit they were wrong in trading McNabb if you put a gun to their heads, they kicked McNabb out the door and then promised the fans that Kevin Kolb was a star in the making.

                      Plus the Eagles wouldn't resign Vick because Kolb got a huge extension after the McNabb deal went down. The Eagles have invested too much in Kolb to ditch him so quickly in favor of Vick. In the long run this team is better with Kolb.

                      And I'm still not sure why people are in such a hurry to run Kolb out of town, I realize he didn't play well against Green Bay but c'mon that defense is very good and Kolb has an offensive line that is like a sieve. I say we should give Kolb a few more games before we throw him under the bus completely. He threw 10 passes, 3 of them after being concussed in the Green Bay game. Don't throw him under the bus just yet, but maybe you could start walking him into the middle of the street if you're really anxious to get rid of the guy.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Werowance View Post
                        You see but the Eagles are run by three egomaniacs (Banner, Roseman, Reid) and they won't give up on Kolb so soon, even if they should. They will not admit they were wrong in trading McNabb if you put a gun to their heads, they kicked McNabb out the door and then promised the fans that Kevin Kolb was a star in the making.

                        Plus the Eagles wouldn't resign Vick because Kolb got a huge extension after the McNabb deal went down. The Eagles have invested too much in Kolb to ditch him so quickly in favor of Vick. In the long run this team is better with Kolb.

                        And I'm still not sure why people are in such a hurry to run Kolb out of town, I realize he didn't play well against Green Bay but c'mon that defense is very good and Kolb has an offensive line that is like a sieve. I say we should give Kolb a few more games before we throw him under the bus completely. He threw 10 passes, 3 of them after being concussed in the Green Bay game. Don't throw him under the bus just yet, but maybe you could start walking him into the middle of the street if you're really anxious to get rid of the guy.
                        I'd be surprised if all three of those men would share the same opinion that their financial investment over a player that may be a worse option to start at quarterback is more important than giving the team the best chance to win. And you can't say in the long run that this team is better with Kolb. The team is better in the long run with the player that gives the team the best chance to win.

                        Perhaps Kolb does deserve another shot, but from what you said in your last paragraph you're sounding as if the NFL is fair. And it's not. Kevin Kolb had his shot and even if it was one game, he didn't play well, got knocked out, and now a player has replaced him and is doing a lot better. Regardless if the circumstances were in his control or not, Kolb has lost his job for the time being and I doubt he gets it back until Vick screws up consistently.

                        "Every light must fade, every heart return to darkness!"
                        -San Francisco 49ers: Five Time Super Bowl Champions-
                        Originally posted by Borat
                        Oh, my bad. Didn't realize SWDC was the pinnacle of class and grace.

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                        • #13
                          Kolb is getting run out of town because he's never proven he can be a good player, and fans don't really like handing the keys to a guy that is unproven and doesn't have something to his credit(like a dominant college career, or massive upside).
                          Originally posted by SNIPER26
                          fwiw, i amz deunks ofs myt ass. ilo vez drinmoinz befotre i post. wha t a hreat ideas.z.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Werowance View Post
                            Here is why Andy doesn't want the Eagles to rely on Vick, his contract expires at the end of the season, he is leaving in free agency. Why bail on Kolb to play Vick, still be an average team and then go back to square one next season? Kevin Kolb is the guy the Eagles handed the keys to, not Vick. Kevin Kolb is the guy the Eagles are paying upwards of 7 million dollars this year. Kevin Kolb is the guy the Eagles want to become the starter, not Vick. From a pure wins v losses, this season only standpoint the smart move would certainly be to start Vick, it is clear that Vick is better than ever, better than he ever was in ATL. BUT, why do that and set your team back a year? I mean it isn't like the Eagles are going to compete, that offensive line and defense are not going to hold up no matter who you put at QB. Basically the Eagles take their lumps this season and come out next season with an experienced Kevin Kolb, Kevin Kolb has served his time holding the clipboard, there is only so much he can develop on the bench, he needs real playing time if the Eagles want to have long term success.
                            Hey, Thumper, KOLB sucks he is garbage. If he isn't tearing it up or the Eagles aren't winning by week 6/7 then what? I know Kolb is the starter and they are going to keep him in. But why would you leave him in all season if by week 6 he hasn't really won you a game, or keeps makeing T/O? I think thats what will happen since Kolb doesn't know how to read a defense and stares down his primary WR.

                            Also with Kolb's noodle arm, Jackson is going to soon be calling for Vick.

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                            • #15
                              I have this odd feeling Vick is going to end up in Carolina despite Clausen...


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