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  • #61
    Originally posted by frisby213 View Post
    1. Rex Grossman

    You really can't even ARGUE this. He's a disaster of a QB, and if the Bears had ANY half-decent QB to play the Colts in the Super Bowl, it's feasible they could have won it. IMHO, they would have lost either way, but that's not the subject at hand. Point is, the defense is what carried that team, NOT Rex. They should have traded with the 'Skins and picked Quinn up at #6.
    You just don't quit. You act like that game was a blowout in the first place. "Feasible they could have won"??? They were down by 2 at halftime for christ's sake!! You keep bringing this up simply so you can mention how greatly superior the Colts are (which you then confirmed by saying they "would have lost either way"). Shove it out your ass dude. Yes the Colts won, they aren't that great of a team though, all respect in the world for winning the Superbowl, but this is still the team that let Mo Drew run for over 200 yards on them. Get off it.


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    • #62
      Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
      You just don't quit. You act like that game was a blowout in the first place. "Feasible they could have won"??? They were down by 2 at halftime for christ's sake!! You keep bringing this up simply so you can mention how greatly superior the Colts are (which you then confirmed by saying they "would have lost either way"). Shove it out your ass dude. Yes the Colts won, they aren't that great of a team though, all respect in the world for winning the Superbowl, but this is still the team that let Mo Drew run for over 200 yards on them. Get off it.
      Don't be so sore. Look at the game. If it wasn't for two big plays, the Bears wouldn't have even been in it. They had has many first downs as turnovers in the first half. 14 of their 17 points came off two plays, counting Thomas Jones' 50 yard run to the goal line as one of them. Their field goal was made after having beautiful field position. They didn't make a single drive.

      We were doing 7 minute long drives, wearing out the defense, because Smith and Rivera refused to alter their defensive scheme. They were so worried about the deep pass, they continuously and continuously let us run screens and short drops. Addai had 10 catches for that very reason.

      Fact of the matter is, the game was not very close at all, and was clouded by a misleading score. If you had a better quarterback, who didn't throw multiple interceptions, and seal away the game for you, you could have won. I still don't think you would have, because the problems were on the defensive side of the ball as well, as I mentioned.

      Yeah, I'm a Colts homer. It comes with the territory. But believe it or not, the Bears are one of the few teams I can actually stand...so I'm really not hating on them all that bad. It's more or less fact...

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      • #63
        Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
        You just don't quit. You act like that game was a blowout in the first place. "Feasible they could have won"??? They were down by 2 at halftime for christ's sake!! You keep bringing this up simply so you can mention how greatly superior the Colts are (which you then confirmed by saying they "would have lost either way"). Shove it out your ass dude. Yes the Colts won, they aren't that great of a team though, all respect in the world for winning the Superbowl, but this is still the team that let Mo Drew run for over 200 yards on them. Get off it.
        Bitter Bears fan. LOL

        Bears offense was owned fair and simple of the Colts. They are better then you.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Ace View Post
          Bitter Bears fan. LOL

          Bears offense was owned fair and simple of the Colts. They are better then you.
          It's than, and I never said they weren't, but it wasn't a blowout.


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          • #65
            Originally posted by frisby213 View Post
            Don't be so sore. Look at the game. If it wasn't for two big plays, the Bears wouldn't have even been in it. They had has many first downs as turnovers in the first half. 14 of their 17 points came off two plays, counting Thomas Jones' 50 yard run to the goal line as one of them. Their field goal was made after having beautiful field position. They didn't make a single drive.

            We were doing 7 minute long drives, wearing out the defense, because Smith and Rivera refused to alter their defensive scheme. They were so worried about the deep pass, they continuously and continuously let us run screens and short drops. Addai had 10 catches for that very reason.

            Fact of the matter is, the game was not very close at all, and was clouded by a misleading score. If you had a better quarterback, who didn't throw multiple interceptions, and seal away the game for you, you could have won. I still don't think you would have, because the problems were on the defensive side of the ball as well, as I mentioned.

            Yeah, I'm a Colts homer. It comes with the territory. But believe it or not, the Bears are one of the few teams I can actually stand...so I'm really not hating on them all that bad. It's more or less fact...
            You can't have a misleading score. The score is what it is. You can't just take away plays. I've heard you say this before. "Well if Hester wouldn't have returned that kickoff". Well he did, it happened, special teams are part of the game.

            I've already said the gameplan was terrible, and I predicted we would lose the game before it even happened, but the Colts are not this vastly superior team that you try to make them out to be.


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            • #66
              Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
              It's than, and I never said they weren't, but it wasn't a blowout.
              If it wasn't for Hester, then the score would of been 29-10. The Bears offense only scored 10 points against the "not so good" Colts defense.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Ace View Post
                If it wasn't for Hester, then the score would of been 29-10. The Bears offense only scored 10 points against the "not so good" Colts defense.
                Well Hester is part of the Bears. So the score wasn't 29-10, it was 29-17, which isn't a blowout.


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                • #68
                  Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
                  Well Hester is part of the Bears. So the score wasn't 29-10, it was 29-17, which isn't a blowout.
                  Fine. Da Bears offense still only scored 10 points against the Colts defense.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
                    You can't have a misleading score. The score is what it is. You can't just take away plays. I've heard you say this before. "Well if Hester wouldn't have returned that kickoff". Well he did, it happened, special teams are part of the game.

                    I've already said the gameplan was terrible, and I predicted we would lose the game before it even happened, but the Colts are not this vastly superior team that you try to make them out to be.
                    I'm not saying you take them away...I'm not doubting their existence. But the fact of the matter is when it came down to simple, pure, football, they didn't do squat. Seriously, how many plays did they run (minus all the gimme-ones they racked up in the closing couple of minutes) in the game? They had NO big stops that come to mind on the defensive side, they did absolutely NOTHING on the offensive side...

                    No, it wasn't a literal blowout, but I never said that. I said it wasn't close, which, it wasn't.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by frisby213 View Post
                      I'm not saying you take them away...I'm not doubting their existence. But the fact of the matter is when it came down to simple, pure, football, they didn't do squat. Seriously, how many plays did they run (minus all the gimme-ones they racked up in the closing couple of minutes) in the game? They had NO big stops that come to mind on the defensive side, they did absolutely NOTHING on the offensive side...

                      No, it wasn't a literal blowout, but I never said that. I said it wasn't close, which, it wasn't.
                      Special teams isn't simple, pure, football ?? What does that even mean??

                      You said the Bears had no feasible chance of winning. That's stupid. You lost to teams worse than the Bears, and you were only up by two at halftime. It's revisionist history to suit your own ends, and it has very little to do with the topic. Grossman being on the hot seat has very little to do with his performance in the Superbowl. He was in the Superbowl in his first season as a fullstarter, nobody expected him to light the world up.
                      Last edited by bearsfan_51; 04-05-2007, 09:09 PM.


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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
                        Special teams isn't simple, pure, football ?? What does that even mean??
                        One play. One play. They didn't dominate because of one play. Go back and contradict the other things I said if you want to keep arguing.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
                          Special teams isn't simple, pure, football ?? What does that even mean??

                          You said the Bears had no feasible chance of winning. That's stupid. You lost to teams worse than the Bears, and you were only up by two at halftime. It's revisionist history to suit your own ends, and it has very little to do with the topic.
                          Whoops, I missed that second part...

                          They DIDN'T have a feasible chance of winning, because on that day, they weren't doing SQUAT. If they play 10 games, the Bears will win some. But they came in that day unprepared with a bad gameplan and even worse execution. A few big plays kept them in the game, nothing more.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by frisby213 View Post
                            One play. One play. They didn't dominate because of one play. Go back and contradict the other things I said if you want to keep arguing.
                            So what? How is a kick return any different than Manning's one play that was a deep bomb to Reggie Wayne on a blown coverage. Ok take that one away. 22-10. Just because it's a special teams play that makes it somehow less valid?


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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
                              So what? How is a kick return any different than Manning's one play that was a deep bomb to Reggie Wayne on a blown coverage. Ok take that one away. 22-10. Just because it's a special teams play that makes it somehow less valid?
                              If you go by that logic, it's 22-3...

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by frisby213 View Post
                                If you go by that logic, it's 22-3...
                                Ok I'm done talking about this, you've already brought up a generally irrelivant point.

                                Grossman is not on the hot seat because of the Superbowl. Yes he's on the hotseat, but it has very little to do with that.


                                Nobody cares about your stupid fantasy team.

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