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  • #31
    I'm going to say the Packers, just because I don't see them being in the top half of the league record wise. And whoever said Philly is a complete idiot.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by awfullyquiet View Post
      Indy'll do worse too. i can see them being a 10 winner...

      i mean, with the sheer number of close games they've had during the regular season, it's very possible that they'll get the shaft.
      They'll do worse because they knew how to win close games? That's some great reasoning right there.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by awfullyquiet View Post
        Indy'll do worse too. i can see them being a 10 winner...

        i mean, with the sheer number of close games they've had during the regular season, it's very possible that they'll get the shaft.
        Originally posted by cardsalltheway View Post
        They'll do worse because they knew how to win close games? That's some great reasoning right there.
        No... they'll do worse because the law of averages will catch up to them eventually.

        Which brings me to the Colts' amazing run of luck when it comes to injuries to major contributers. From 1999-2006, whilst they have been the winningest team in the NFL, there has only been one injury of note on their explosive offense--- the one to Edgerrin James in 2001, which was a big cause of the only losing record in Tony Dungy's career in Indy.

        What happens to Indy if Peyton Manning goes down for 5-6 weeks? Answer: The team loses 4-5 games.

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        • #34
          I think the Cheifs will do worst. They lost a vatile part of their oline Will Sheilds. I'm not quiet sure if they are certain on the QB they are gonna use. I just think overall they'll do worse.


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          • #35
            Originally posted by cardsalltheway View Post
            They'll do worse because they knew how to win close games? That's some great reasoning right there.
            the dice can roll the other way.

            they were good, but they never dominated. i mean, sure, you have captain v kicking for the win six times a year. and with a slightly improved titans squad (minus pacman. r.i.p.) a jacksonville running threat, and maybe the texans being able to do... something... their record vs the south last year was pretty mediocre. and to think, oh my gosh, i'm going to play six games vs them.

            they wiped the texans the first time, barely won against the titans in week six. lost against the titans in december, then again at jacksonville (where everyone realized. holy crap, you can run against them and control the clock! OH GOD! and MJD ran for six billion yards...) and then one more loss at houston... if any of those teams in the south improve, you can count them for more losses.

            Pats are also probably good for one loss. San diego? Atlanta... b-more? all of those are possibilites of losses. and OMG, what happens if manning or harrison or wayne gets hurt (i really don't think anyone contemplates that ANYONE could get hurt and anyone can not get hurt... i mean, everyone last year was saying, oh grossman will get hurt again, he's injury prone. and. well. lies)... so... 10-6 isn't out of the question if some of their 6 games decided by 3 or less (which they went 3 for 6 in) don't go their favor.

            JT (rep+, i think you type quicker than i do... but know where i was going with that.)
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            • #36
              Originally posted by BigDawg819 View Post
              He may be an upgrade but still will be a rookie and will make mistakes.
              But that's my point, James has been making mistakes (and more of them each year) since 2003. Hall will do just fine.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by awfullyquiet View Post
                the dice can roll the other way.

                they were good, but they never dominated. i mean, sure, you have captain v kicking for the win six times a year. and with a slightly improved titans squad (minus pacman. r.i.p.) a jacksonville running threat, and maybe the texans being able to do... something... their record vs the south last year was pretty mediocre. and to think, oh my gosh, i'm going to play six games vs them.

                they wiped the texans the first time, barely won against the titans in week six. lost against the titans in december, then again at jacksonville (where everyone realized. holy crap, you can run against them and control the clock! OH GOD! and MJD ran for six billion yards...) and then one more loss at houston... if any of those teams in the south improve, you can count them for more losses.

                Pats are also probably good for one loss. San diego? Atlanta... b-more? all of those are possibilites of losses. and OMG, what happens if manning or harrison or wayne gets hurt (i really don't think anyone contemplates that ANYONE could get hurt and anyone can not get hurt... i mean, everyone last year was saying, oh grossman will get hurt again, he's injury prone. and. well. lies)... so... 10-6 isn't out of the question if some of their 6 games decided by 3 or less (which they went 3 for 6 in) don't go their favor.

                JT (rep+, i think you type quicker than i do... but know where i was going with that.)
                I'm not saying there's not a possiblity of them being worse, because it's without a doubt there. But at least use quality reasoning unlike you did in your OP. To say that a team will get worse just because they won a lot of close games doesn't make sense. There's a reason that they won the majority, and it's not lucky.

                Every game against a good team is obviously a possibility for a loss, but just because they're playing good teams doesn't mean they'll automatically lose to them.

                Yes the run defense was downright awful last year, but the chances of it being that bad again are very slim. They showed how much better they could do when Bob is in the lineup in the playoffs and the front 7 has only improved from last season's.

                You can use the injury arguement for the majority of teams in the league. If they were to lose one of their two best players, things are likely to get worse. But without an injury history there's no logical reason to predict that those will happen.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by JT Jag View Post
                  No... they'll do worse because the law of averages will catch up to them eventually.

                  Which brings me to the Colts' amazing run of luck when it comes to injuries to major contributers. From 1999-2006, whilst they have been the winningest team in the NFL, there has only been one injury of note on their explosive offense--- the one to Edgerrin James in 2001, which was a big cause of the only losing record in Tony Dungy's career in Indy.

                  What happens to Indy if Peyton Manning goes down for 5-6 weeks? Answer: The team loses 4-5 games.
                  And why will one of them suddenly get hurt this year? Marvin is fantastic at protecting his body and Peyton's pocket presence is top-notch. Addai seemed fully capable of carrying the load when he got more and more carries at the end of the season. Obviously injuries could occur and that would be bad, but there's no reason to think they will. Guys like Peyton and Marvin don't stay healthy because of luck, they stay healthy because they protect themselves from injury.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by cardsalltheway View Post
                    And why will one of them suddenly get hurt this year? Marvin is fantastic at protecting his body and Peyton's pocket presence is top-notch. Addai seemed fully capable of carrying the load when he got more and more carries at the end of the season. Obviously injuries could occur and that would be bad, but there's no reason to think they will. Guys like Peyton and Marvin don't stay healthy because of luck, they stay healthy because they protect themselves from injury.
                    Because anyone can get hurt... and because Addai in particular has an injury history dating back to high school.

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                    • #40
                      The thing that people have to remember about the Bears is that we still play in the North. That right there is going to keep our record at least about the mendoza line. I don't think we'll win 13 games next year either, but I'd be pretty suprised if we don't at least have a winning record.


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                      • #41
                        San Diego.
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                        • #42
                          Predicting a team will be bad because of injuries is asinine, especially when you are predicting a player that never missed a game in his career to get hurt.

                          As for the teams that will decline, Chicago, Baltimore, NO, the Jets, Kansas City, Dallas, the Giants and Titans all have a chance. I think Chicago, KC and the Titans will all be under .500 next season, and either Dallas or the Giants will be around 8-8.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by doingthisinsteadofwork View Post
                            San Diego.
                            They have Norv Turner as HC.
                            Touche, sir. I was thinking the exact same thing.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
                              The thing that people have to remember about the Bears is that we still play in the North. That right there is going to keep our record at least about the mendoza line. I don't think we'll win 13 games next year either, but I'd be pretty suprised if we don't at least have a winning record.
                              I think everyone would be surprised if they were below .500. They will drop off a little bit though. I think they have 2 years left at the top of the division, then someone else will take over.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by GB12 View Post
                                I think everyone would be surprised if they were below .500. They will drop off a little bit though. I think they have 2 years left at the top of the division, then someone else will take over.
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