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    I've been rethinking my draft evaluation constantly as information continues to trickle out and roster moves evolve as I am sure all of you are and I've been a bit baffled by a question lately:

    Outside of a preference for a 4-3, how much do we know about Zimmer's philosophy? For instance, is he Tampa-2 guy? A zone biltz guy? All of these things should be on our minds since most of you seem to agree with me on the importance of rebuilding, especially the line & secondary. If anyone knows more about Zimmer then please share it here. Maybe I've missed all of this somewhere and you can point me in the right direction.

    Much Appreciated!

  • #2
    zone blitz core with man corners...

    Owner of ScarDraft
    Atlanta Falcons and NFL Draft Featured Columnist for Bleacher Report

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    • #3
      Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for.

      Is run support more or less important for CBs? Chris Houston looks damn good as a pure cover guy but if run support is emphasized then Darrell Revis should be the team's top CB, I believe.

      Thanks

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      • #4
        I would say it's less important than being able to cover in a press man scheme. I would also say that Crhis Houston would be the ideal corner for us in the draft but we would be better off with Jimmy Williams at RCB and then getting a FS like Merriweather or Landry.

        Owner of ScarDraft
        Atlanta Falcons and NFL Draft Featured Columnist for Bleacher Report

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        • #5
          Yeah, I'll have to respectfully disagree with you there since I would prefer to move JW and draft either Landry as a compliment/competitor at safety and drafting a top CB. That way, we should have a solid-to-great secondary for years. Then use the rest of the picks for OL & DL and maybe sneak in M. Bush if available in rd. 3.

          As I said, I respect your idea, if the team's idea is to keep JW at CB. That makes perfect sense. I just believe that JW is a more natural safety.

          Thanks again and maybe more people will get involved.

          P.S. It should be obvious that I am emphasizing building a dominant defense. I don't want a huge argument about using #8 for CJ (as part of a trade-up package) or drafting Peterson. I'm just trying to evaluate the pick as it fits into my own philosophy. Thanks.

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          • #6
            JW is too good as a corner, and causes TONS of matchup problems. He is more physical than any corner in the league, and has the size to knock anyone around, plus the fact that he can still run with anyone as well. J W is a baller, and he's the one we need to use.

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            • #7
              yup. in press coverage, D-lo, and Jimmy are crazy strong and would force a guy to stay in that 5 yard cushion for close to an extra second.

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              Atlanta Falcons and NFL Draft Featured Columnist for Bleacher Report

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              • #8
                That would give us all kinds of time if we could swing it that way.

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                • #9
                  I was under the opinion that Zimmer was actually a 3-4 guy since he was the D-coordinator at Dallas, but Petrino over rules him and says we are playing a 4-3, which personally I like better. Am I correct in this thinking, or have I been misinformed
                  Originally posted by BamaFalcon59
                  Open minded is eggs and hot sauce (trading down for Leodis McKelvin, something like that). Stupid is ketchup mixed with milk (that would be drafting Chris Long at three).

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                  • #10
                    Greatly missinformed, he is one of the best 4/3 guys in the biz in 04 OR 03 he lead the #1 ranked defence in the NFL at the cowboys as a 4/3 then after that parcells made him change to 3/4 so over the past few years he has been out of his comfort zone...he even recognised this as a key reason on coming to the ATL
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                    • #11
                      Gotcha, makes since now.
                      Originally posted by BamaFalcon59
                      Open minded is eggs and hot sauce (trading down for Leodis McKelvin, something like that). Stupid is ketchup mixed with milk (that would be drafting Chris Long at three).

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                      • #12
                        I got a question too...what about Pat Watkins...obviously Zimmer liked him, and he's real solid, but for some reason the fans aren't happy with him there in Dallas...if he is cut...could we go for him...or could we use someone like Crocker as trade bait to bring him here? Crocker would be the kind of Saftey they like more...and we need a coverage Saftey like none other...I think it could be a pretty fair swap and it would let us pass on Safetys early and address other needs.

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                        • #13
                          I think the reason that Watkins is not well-regarded in Dallas is the same reason that he wouldn't be a good fit here in Atlanta: namely, he's not good in coverage. At all. Dallas desperately needs a good cover safety to help make up for Roy Williams' weaknesses in coverage. We need the same thing to make up for Milloy, who at one time was good in coverage but has definitely lost a step or two in old age.

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                          • #14
                            I don't think that is the case at all. Watkins is one of the better coverage guys in the draft last year. Very VERY good in coverage, even to the point where he played some cornerback. That's why I liked him so much, not to mention there is NO chance you get a fade route over him. He's just as tall as any WR plus with a 41 inch vert, he could go up against CJ.

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                            • #15
                              I never read anything last year that said Watkins was good in coverage. I get Lindy's, Athlon and Street & Smith's draft issues every year in addition to reading everything I can get my hands on online & Watkins was consistently questioned for his coverage ability. Furthermore, when he was put in alongside Roy, the deep secondary fell apart. This is the reason the Cowboys signed Hamilin and are also in the running for a safety in this year's draft. You can question all day whether the Cowboys' safety woes are due to lack of ability on their part or a lack of a pass rush or even if it's due to a bad scheme, but the reason that Watkins has been passed over is specifically because he gave up too many big plays when he was given the chance to show what he's got.

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