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  • #61
    Originally posted by bigbluedefense
    Shoot, you think we'll win? I think the Bears got this.

    Between our defense being a spokesgroup for Band-Aid, and Plaxico calling out the Bears defense, and the only WR on our team with hands going down for the season, it looks like the odds are in your favor.
    To be honest with you, I don't think the injuries to the Giants defense are as big of a deal as others do because I don't think the Giants have a very good defense anyway. It's pourous against the run when facing good teams and really only has about 3 players of worth (although clearly losing 2 of those 3 will have some impact). While Strahan and Osi obviously would have put more pressure on Grossman, I think we would have been able to run either way.

    The biggest key comes on defense. Our Ends will either win this game for us or lose it for us. They need to contain the outside rushing of Tiki Barber and generate consistant pressure on Eli. We need at least 4 sacks in this game to win. I think we can do that, but after watching Ronnie Brown tear us apart I'm not as confident as I normally would be. As much as I think Mike Brown is overated, the rushing defense has not been the same without him.


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    • #62
      Originally posted by bearsfan_51
      Originally posted by bigbluedefense
      Shoot, you think we'll win? I think the Bears got this.

      Between our defense being a spokesgroup for Band-Aid, and Plaxico calling out the Bears defense, and the only WR on our team with hands going down for the season, it looks like the odds are in your favor.
      To be honest with you, I don't think the injuries to the Giants defense are as big of a deal as others do because I don't think the Giants have a very good defense anyway. It's pourous against the run when facing good teams and really only has about 3 players of worth (although clearly losing 2 of those 3 will have some impact). While Strahan and Osi obviously would have put more pressure on Grossman, I think we would have been able to run either way.

      The biggest key comes on defense. Our Ends will either win this game for us or lose it for us. They need to contain the outside rushing of Tiki Barber and generate consistant pressure on Eli. We need at least 4 sacks in this game to win. I think we can do that, but after watching Ronnie Brown tear us apart I'm not as confident as I normally would be. As much as I think Mike Brown is overated, the rushing defense has not been the same without him.
      Actually, before all these injuries the defense was playing at a high level. And we've been very good against the run all season, the stats don't necessarily prove it but I'll explain that later. Our weakness was against the pass, and Im sure youve heard about our disdain for Tim Lewis and his prevent style defense and zones. Thats why teams scored so easily on us in the first 4 or so games. Then they padded their rushing stats in the second half, thus showing us to be an average rush defense, when in fact our rush defense is very good.

      After we started blitzing and using more man coverages, our defense played well. Im not saying its elite by any standards, but we are a very good run stopping defense and good enough against the pass when healthy. Now our ability in both is dramatically hurt. Stray and Osi are very very good run stuffing DEs, and running to the outside was very difficult because of them. Running up the gut was pretty much shut down by Pierce. Now with Osi and Stray out, running to the outside is doable against us.

      And you guys will shut Tiki down. Your D was built to stop slasher/skatbacks. Its Jacobs who will present you guys trouble. Im actually hoping the Giants start Jacobs over Barber and just pound the Bears to submission, but I doubt that will happen. Whoever turns the ball over less wins this one.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Smokey Joe
        Originally posted by sweetness34
        Originally posted by Smokey Joe
        Originally posted by sweetness34
        Originally posted by Boston
        Originally posted by sweetness34
        Originally posted by RexGrossmans-cheesecake
        This is a 'lil random but....



        OMGWTFIMGONNAKILLSOMEONEWTFWTFMATE!
        Hasn't changed one bit.
        Wow. Why was Urlacher the first player that came to mind?
        Huh? :?
        Another HI-larious packers joke!
        Do you get it? Anyway, he has no room to take shots right now. We whooped the *********** out of them at Lambeau and we lead the division (plus we won the division last year and swept them).

        Packer fans...Oh what would us Bear fans do if we couldn't make fun of the cheeseheads?
        I was being sarcastic. I have no idea what the hell he is talking about :D
        It wasn't meant to be a joke. When i first looked at that picture, Urlacher was the first player to come to mind.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Boston
          Originally posted by Smokey Joe
          Originally posted by sweetness34
          Originally posted by Smokey Joe
          Originally posted by sweetness34
          Originally posted by Boston
          Originally posted by sweetness34
          Originally posted by RexGrossmans-cheesecake
          This is a 'lil random but....



          OMGWTFIMGONNAKILLSOMEONEWTFWTFMATE!
          Hasn't changed one bit.
          Wow. Why was Urlacher the first player that came to mind?
          Huh? :?
          Another HI-larious packers joke!
          Do you get it? Anyway, he has no room to take shots right now. We whooped the *********** out of them at Lambeau and we lead the division (plus we won the division last year and swept them).

          Packer fans...Oh what would us Bear fans do if we couldn't make fun of the cheeseheads?
          I was being sarcastic. I have no idea what the hell he is talking about :D
          It wasn't meant to be a joke. When i first looked at that picture, Urlacher was the first player to come to mind.
          too much cheese in the head maybe?

          ^Thanks to Eaglez.Fan for the sweet sig!

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          • #65
            I can actually see the Bears getting 3 extra first day/middle picks for the draft. If they decide to Franchise Briggs and trade, that could get a 2nd round pick at least. Plus I don't see Thomas Jones returning, and could be traded to a team like the Jets for a 3rd, IMO. And we do kinda have a log jam at QB with Grossman, Giese, and Orton. If Grossman continues to have a fine season, and just cuts down on the mistakes, I see the Bears locking him up long term in the offseason, and this would mean Griese would probably want to go somewhere else to earn a spot to start. Plus, Orton is our Backup QB of the future, I guess you can say. And I could see Griese being traded to team like Bucs for a 4th rounder.

            Thoughts?

            ^Thanks to Eaglez.Fan for the sweet sig!

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Smokey Joe
              I can actually see the Bears getting 3 extra first day/middle picks for the draft. If they decide to Franchise Briggs and trade, that could get a 2nd round pick at least. Plus I don't see Thomas Jones returning, and could be traded to a team like the Jets for a 3rd, IMO. And we do kinda have a log jam at QB with Grossman, Giese, and Orton. If Grossman continues to have a fine season, and just cuts down on the mistakes, I see the Bears locking him up long term in the offseason, and this would mean Griese would probably want to go somewhere else to earn a spot to start. Plus, Orton is our Backup QB of the future, I guess you can say. And I could see Griese being traded to team like Bucs for a 4th rounder.

              Thoughts?
              I think if we got a Mid 2nd rounder for Briggs, and an early 3rd rounder for Jones that I would pee my pants. Except that I dont want Briggs to go

              Originally posted by BeansDooma
              who retires first: brett favre or aaron rodgers?

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              • #67
                Originally posted by bearfan54
                Originally posted by Smokey Joe
                I can actually see the Bears getting 3 extra first day/middle picks for the draft. If they decide to Franchise Briggs and trade, that could get a 2nd round pick at least. Plus I don't see Thomas Jones returning, and could be traded to a team like the Jets for a 3rd, IMO. And we do kinda have a log jam at QB with Grossman, Giese, and Orton. If Grossman continues to have a fine season, and just cuts down on the mistakes, I see the Bears locking him up long term in the offseason, and this would mean Griese would probably want to go somewhere else to earn a spot to start. Plus, Orton is our Backup QB of the future, I guess you can say. And I could see Griese being traded to team like Bucs for a 4th rounder.

                Thoughts?
                I think if we got a Mid 2nd rounder for Briggs, and an early 3rd rounder for Jones that I would pee my pants. Except that I dont want Briggs to go
                Briggs is as good as gone, IMO. Save the money, and lock up more important players such as Vasher, Tillman, Tommie Harris, Grossman(?), etc.

                ^Thanks to Eaglez.Fan for the sweet sig!

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by bearfan54
                  Originally posted by Smokey Joe
                  I can actually see the Bears getting 3 extra first day/middle picks for the draft. If they decide to Franchise Briggs and trade, that could get a 2nd round pick at least. Plus I don't see Thomas Jones returning, and could be traded to a team like the Jets for a 3rd, IMO. And we do kinda have a log jam at QB with Grossman, Giese, and Orton. If Grossman continues to have a fine season, and just cuts down on the mistakes, I see the Bears locking him up long term in the offseason, and this would mean Griese would probably want to go somewhere else to earn a spot to start. Plus, Orton is our Backup QB of the future, I guess you can say. And I could see Griese being traded to team like Bucs for a 4th rounder.

                  Thoughts?
                  I think if we got a Mid 2nd rounder for Briggs, and an early 3rd rounder for Jones that I would pee my pants. Except that I dont want Briggs to go
                  oh yeah, btw, I love your new sig :twisted:

                  ^Thanks to Eaglez.Fan for the sweet sig!

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Smokey Joe
                    Originally posted by bearfan54
                    Originally posted by Smokey Joe
                    I can actually see the Bears getting 3 extra first day/middle picks for the draft. If they decide to Franchise Briggs and trade, that could get a 2nd round pick at least. Plus I don't see Thomas Jones returning, and could be traded to a team like the Jets for a 3rd, IMO. And we do kinda have a log jam at QB with Grossman, Giese, and Orton. If Grossman continues to have a fine season, and just cuts down on the mistakes, I see the Bears locking him up long term in the offseason, and this would mean Griese would probably want to go somewhere else to earn a spot to start. Plus, Orton is our Backup QB of the future, I guess you can say. And I could see Griese being traded to team like Bucs for a 4th rounder.

                    Thoughts?
                    I think if we got a Mid 2nd rounder for Briggs, and an early 3rd rounder for Jones that I would pee my pants. Except that I dont want Briggs to go
                    oh yeah, btw, I love your new sig :twisted:
                    :twisted:

                    Originally posted by BeansDooma
                    who retires first: brett favre or aaron rodgers?

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by bigbluedefense
                      Originally posted by bearsfan_51
                      Originally posted by bigbluedefense
                      Shoot, you think we'll win? I think the Bears got this.

                      Between our defense being a spokesgroup for Band-Aid, and Plaxico calling out the Bears defense, and the only WR on our team with hands going down for the season, it looks like the odds are in your favor.
                      To be honest with you, I don't think the injuries to the Giants defense are as big of a deal as others do because I don't think the Giants have a very good defense anyway. It's pourous against the run when facing good teams and really only has about 3 players of worth (although clearly losing 2 of those 3 will have some impact). While Strahan and Osi obviously would have put more pressure on Grossman, I think we would have been able to run either way.

                      The biggest key comes on defense. Our Ends will either win this game for us or lose it for us. They need to contain the outside rushing of Tiki Barber and generate consistant pressure on Eli. We need at least 4 sacks in this game to win. I think we can do that, but after watching Ronnie Brown tear us apart I'm not as confident as I normally would be. As much as I think Mike Brown is overated, the rushing defense has not been the same without him.
                      Actually, before all these injuries the defense was playing at a high level. And we've been very good against the run all season, the stats don't necessarily prove it but I'll explain that later. Our weakness was against the pass, and Im sure youve heard about our disdain for Tim Lewis and his prevent style defense and zones. Thats why teams scored so easily on us in the first 4 or so games. Then they padded their rushing stats in the second half, thus showing us to be an average rush defense, when in fact our rush defense is very good.

                      After we started blitzing and using more man coverages, our defense played well. Im not saying its elite by any standards, but we are a very good run stopping defense and good enough against the pass when healthy. Now our ability in both is dramatically hurt. Stray and Osi are very very good run stuffing DEs, and running to the outside was very difficult because of them. Running up the gut was pretty much shut down by Pierce. Now with Osi and Stray out, running to the outside is doable against us.

                      And you guys will shut Tiki down. Your D was built to stop slasher/skatbacks. Its Jacobs who will present you guys trouble. Im actually hoping the Giants start Jacobs over Barber and just pound the Bears to submission, but I doubt that will happen. Whoever turns the ball over less wins this one.
                      That's the stereotype against the cover 2 defense, but it doesn't really apply. We're small along the d-line but we have big linebackers that can stand the "bruising" running backs. The only exception has been Jerome Bettis, and Brandon Jacobs is not Jerome Bettis. I'm not sweating him at all.


                      Nobody cares about your stupid fantasy team.

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                      • #71
                        Is it true Jacobs called out Urlacher? I kind pity Jacobs if he did... nah! He deserves whatever pain is comming his way.

                        ^Thanks to Eaglez.Fan for the sweet sig!

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                        • #72
                          There are a lot of stupid players on the Giants, this is a well established fact. Hanging out with Shockey and Plax can do nothing but have a drastic effect on your intellect.


                          Nobody cares about your stupid fantasy team.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by bearsfan_51
                            There are a lot of stupid players on the Giants, this is a well established fact. Hanging out with Shockey and Plax can do nothing but have a drastic effect on your intellect.
                            I just don't understand how guys just can't keep their mouths shut. Just play the game. There is no sense in getting the other team fired up by putting out bulletin board material.

                            Just shut up and play. Let you're talk be decided by the scoreboard.


                            Another sig courtesy of BoneKrusher

                            Originally posted by JBCX
                            Despite looking better against an underachieving Eagles team, I still think the Bears are one of the worst teams in the NFL. I smell a blowout victory by the Lions this week and a division sweep.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by sweetness34
                              Originally posted by bearsfan_51
                              There are a lot of stupid players on the Giants, this is a well established fact. Hanging out with Shockey and Plax can do nothing but have a drastic effect on your intellect.
                              I just don't understand how guys just can't keep their mouths shut. Just play the game. There is no sense in getting the other team fired up by putting out bulletin board material.

                              Just shut up and play. Let you're talk be decided by the scoreboard.
                              Besides for Taylor, whenever someone has called us out we have won. I dont see it as a bad thing since it fires up the team

                              Originally posted by BeansDooma
                              who retires first: brett favre or aaron rodgers?

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by bearfan54
                                Originally posted by sweetness34
                                Originally posted by bearsfan_51
                                There are a lot of stupid players on the Giants, this is a well established fact. Hanging out with Shockey and Plax can do nothing but have a drastic effect on your intellect.
                                I just don't understand how guys just can't keep their mouths shut. Just play the game. There is no sense in getting the other team fired up by putting out bulletin board material.

                                Just shut up and play. Let you're talk be decided by the scoreboard.
                                Besides for Taylor, whenever someone has called us out we have won. I dont see it as a bad thing since it fires up the team
                                Well if it takes the other team firing us up to win a game, then I pity our team. That's pathetic. We should already be fired up for the games.


                                Another sig courtesy of BoneKrusher

                                Originally posted by JBCX
                                Despite looking better against an underachieving Eagles team, I still think the Bears are one of the worst teams in the NFL. I smell a blowout victory by the Lions this week and a division sweep.

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