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  • Theres a reason Stallworth can't stick with any team. He is always hurt.

    Your career isn't very impressive when you have played on 4 teams in 4 years.

    Thanks to The Dynasty for the sig

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    • Jones is a field general so to speak and is great in the box and on passing plays in front of him. He's not the best in deep coverage or going towards the double team or against the tight end in coverage, but we can still be a great defense if we put pieces around Sean Jones, notably a ballhawking free safety. We have bigger fish to fry, Jones is a nice player.

      Also regarding the center and right guard, that's not our strongest area on the team but our offensive line is not a question mark at all, it's one of our biggest strengths and even in yesterday's debacle they didn't play bad even with a couple mistakes (Thomas' false start and Fraley's bad snap). Tucker will solidify the spot for 2008 and in 2009 we'll either get a new guy or stick Hadnot/McKinney in there and move on.

      Stallworth does worry me, not just his injuries but his tendency to not go 100% every down. We were supposed to have Stallworth and Jurevicius this year, right now we only have Stallworth some of the time. Not having JJ in there hurts Anderson's confidence big time.

      Our linebackers are gonna be a headache all year....again. Andra Davis played well yesterday, Leon and D'Qwell and Kamerion did not. Willie played good for a 60 year old stiff veteran and is only a 1 or 2 down player this year. Savage is gonna have to give that unit a facelift next spring.



      We have to beat Pittsburgh next sunday night at home, or else we aren't gonna do anything this year but disappoint and stay home in January.

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      • Do we have enough money or any chance at signing Terrell Suggs at all? I'm sure he wouldn't mind coming back to the 34 defense in which he flurished any easily played his best football. Savage has that conection, and we need another pass rusher badly...preferably someone with proven abilities. I also think Baltimore's management really erked him the wrong way last offseason, so I don't know that he'll want to return.

        Isn't it a possibility the salary cap will be no more after the 2010 season?

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        • Originally posted by Cribbs>Hester View Post
          Do we have enough money or any chance at signing Terrell Suggs at all? I'm sure he wouldn't mind coming back to the 34 defense in which he flurished any easily played his best football. Savage has that conection, and we need another pass rusher badly...preferably someone with proven abilities. I also think Baltimore's management really erked him the wrong way last offseason, so I don't know that he'll want to return.

          Isn't it a possibility the salary cap will be no more after the 2010 season?
          our salary cap for next year should be in very good shape. remember a lot of Rogers and Anderson's money were front loaded.

          there is a possibility of an uncapped year in 2010. there was another year back in the 90's that this happened, also. but the browns are in very good shape for that year as almost every single one of our starters are signed thru 2011 or later.


          **Pittsburgh's schedule just got easier as Tom Brady is out for the year. this just makes Sunday nights game even more important. **

          **i know someone that is going to be at the Pittsburgh/browns game. he sitting right i the middle of the dog pound in the fourth row. that d*ck. he'll be holding a poster that has brownie the elf stomping on the Pittsburgh logo.
          Last edited by JSimmsy21; 09-09-2008, 11:43 AM.
          When will commissioner Goodell ban Al Davis from making football decisions?

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          • Our schedule looks harder now too with the Jets and Broncos looking good. And I know Pitt plays them as well but Philly on the road is gonna be a tough matchup too. Our offense needs to gel THIS week and our defense needs to improve with every game or else.

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            • I watched this game again lastnight just to watch our linebackers and D'Qwell Jackson should be benched. He's pathetic. Can't shed blockers, gets driven backwards, plays flat footed in his zones, and cannot cover a TE or back to save his life(Obviously we have to let TO beating him slide that was a coaching error). He has never once showed any flashes of being a good linebacker while Leon Williams has had 2 dominate games and several other very good games in the same amount of years. Leon Williams is also the far superior athlete, quicker and faster. He can run side line to side line better and he's better in coverage(I don't think he's very good either, but better).

              Bench D'Qwell, and maybe it'll light a fire under him if it doesn't then stick it out this season with Leon Williams and see what he has to offer. He reminds me a lot of Donnie Edwards who wasn't a very good player until a few years down the road as well. Beau Bell could be our thumper and Leon Williams the side line to side line/coverage backer. If it doesn't workout then we draft someone else this year or next and let Jackson or Williams or both walk in 2010.

              D'Qwell was hands down the worst linebacker of the game. Also, Kamerion Wimbley looked to me like he was thinking way too much. They have this kid so freaking coached full of garbage just let him pin his ears back and go after the QB and he'll get more pressure. He definitely needs to develope another pass rushing move though. If I see that same dip get defeated one more time I'm going to throw my remote through the TV.

              Davis looked very good actually. He's just a little slower now and like the rest of our backers horrible in coverage.

              Willie McGinest is just slower than old man time trying to run through a pool of syrup.

              Alex Hall actually made two great plays forcing the runner to bounce it back inside and Andra Davis and Sean Jones were not where to be found. He's thinking too much as well, but that is to be expected out of any rookie let alone a 7th rounder forced into the lineup in week one.

              The defense is pathetic, but it looks to me as though it is more so coaching than lack of talent. This defense is coached up to be soft. When you are letting the tightends get off the ball freely without any sort of chuck off the line it makes it much more difficult for the safties and inside linebackers to pick them up in coverage. It also makes it much easier for the QB to find a target much faster, so essentially we are defeating our pass rush. Another thing that is killing our pass rush is the soft cusions given to the recievers on the outside. Our coaching staff is so afraid of these young guys getting beat deep their playing them so far off the ball that the reciever simply has to stop and he becomes wide open. I'm 5'3 couldn't see over my offensive line and I could still make that read and throw. Until we start chucking tightends off the line and jamming wide recievers before they get off the ball you can count on a pointless pass rush and teams to pick the secondary apart.

              This makes two defensive coordinators and a new make up of players with the same results. The common denominator is Romeo Crennel. He is suppose to be the leader of this team so he needs to step up and teach these players better. The reasons we are getting beat on defense are elementary and he is suppose to be a defensive genius?

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              • I vote we cut Braylon Edwards. He had 1 bad game and we all know it's impossible to change from week to week as we all know. Brady Quinn should be cut as well, he did nothing.

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                • Originally posted by BrownsTown View Post
                  I vote we cut Braylon Edwards. He had 1 bad game and we all know it's impossible to change from week to week as we all know. Brady Quinn should be cut as well, he did nothing.

                  Pathetic attempt at making an excuse for one game.

                  ITS NOT JUST ONE GAME. Show me one time D'Qwell Jackson has ever been an effective linebacker, he's in his third year now, not his first game.

                  The coaching has always been pathetic. This is their 4th year now, not first game.

                  Kamerion Wimbley has always only had one pass rushing move. This isn't his first rodeo either.

                  If you would have actually got the point of my post you would have noticed that I said it was correctable. The not chucking TE's and jamming recievers point was to show that our defense could be a lot more effective if those corrections are made. It's up to Romeo and Tucker to actually make those adjustments. This is Tuckers first year, so he gets a break, but Romeo has been around forever and 4 years here now.

                  Romeo Crennel and D'Qwell Jackson are the two guys I'm pissed about. Everything else is easily fixable. Romeo and Jackson have both been here long enough to know better than what they're showing.

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                  • Originally posted by Cribbs>Hester View Post
                    Pathetic attempt at making an excuse for one game.

                    ITS NOT JUST ONE GAME. Show me one time D'Qwell Jackson has ever been an effective linebacker, he's in his third year now, not his first game.

                    The coaching has always been pathetic. This is their 4th year now, not first game.

                    Kamerion Wimbley has always only had one pass rushing move. This isn't his first rodeo either.

                    If you would have actually got the point of my post you would have noticed that I said it was correctable. The not chucking TE's and jamming recievers point was to show that our defense could be a lot more effective if those corrections are made. It's up to Romeo and Tucker to actually make those adjustments. This is Tuckers first year, so he gets a break, but Romeo has been around forever and 4 years here now.

                    Romeo Crennel and D'Qwell Jackson are the two guys I'm pissed about. Everything else is easily fixable. Romeo and Jackson have both been here long enough to know better than what they're showing.
                    D'Qwell has had 2 fine seasons besides this game, which is why you look like an overreacting ***** at the moment.

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                    • Wow. Someone just looks at stats doesn't he. All those tackles he's been making have been 5+ yards down field. He's never once made an impact play in his career. 0 Forced Fumbles, 1 Interception he didn't even make the play, and 1 sack.

                      Leon Williams was asked to contain Michael Vick of all people and completely destroyed him. Cleveland, thanks to Leon, control Vick better than any team except Carolina during Vicks days in the NFL. Not to mention his game against San Francisco when he was making life miserable for the QB time after time. He has show flashes of being a play maker in this league. D'Qwell Jackson has never done that and it's time to face up to it.

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                      • Originally posted by BrownsTown View Post
                        D'Qwell has had 2 fine seasons besides this game, which is why you look like an overreacting ***** at the moment.
                        2 mediocre but "promising" seasons. He can be good but if sunday is any indication he's in trouble. He gets a mulligan for Dallas. They are probably the best team in the NFL and have an incredible OLine and skill position players. Their offense is like ours except better. He's better than Leon though. Leon has been very disappointing since 2007, he gets lost and takes wrong angles and misses gaps and doesn't read the plays right and so many other things. Well he's not as bad as that sounds but he is not better than jackson or davis right now, he's mediocre and decent for his role as the mike in our nickel D.

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                        • BROWNS’ SEAN JONES OUT SEVERAL WEEKS
                          Posted by Michael David Smith on September 10, 2008, 11:56 a.m. EDT
                          The Cleveland Browns’ secondary has taken a big hit.

                          Safety Sean Jones will have arthroscopic surgery on his right knee and miss several weeks, Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer is reporting. Coach Romeo Crennel said Jones will not be placed on injured reserve, and the team does think he’ll be back this year.

                          Jones, a 2004 second-round draft pick, has started every game since the beginning of the 2006 season. His absence will be especially difficult for the Browns to deal with if their other starting safety, Brodney Pool, can’t return this week from the concussion that kept him out Week 1.

                          Mike Adams and Nick Sorensen would be the starting safeties if both Jones and Pool are out. Crennel said the Browns might add a safety to the roster.


                          Ouch.

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                          • We've had more injuries so far this year than we had all of last year...

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                            • This means Pool and Adams at safety against Pittsburgh. Not good, Big Ben will test us deep several times with Holmes and Washington, ugh. This season is not setting up well at all for our players with all the injuries at key positions this early.

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                              • Originally posted by keylime_5 View Post
                                This means Pool and Adams at safety against Pittsburgh. Not good, Big Ben will test us deep several times with Holmes and Washington, ugh. This season is not setting up well at all for our players with all the injuries at key positions this early.
                                Is Brodney going to be back?

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