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  • #31
    Switching to a 43 almost certainly makes the pick DL, with the only exception being Green. I think Clayborn is the best fit but can't see us takin him that early. I'd be happy with Bowers though

    Anyone else see Big Mike workin a little war room magic and tradin down a bit? I could also see a couple 'backers getting dealt for picks come d-day

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    • #32
      Our draft position is a little "eh" for me...While I would love to go BPA and grab either Green, Peterson, Fairley or Bowers if one of them slips...If none of those guys slip though, that's when it goes "eh" for me...

      I honestly don't know much about Quinn other than he was suspended for the year and he's a freak athlete. How's his motor? Freak athlete + nonstop motor usually = big things.

      Dareus as our new UT would be amazing but that's Rogers bread and butter position. Rogers still has years left in him and is an elite UT.

      I would love a trade down to acquire another pick and grab someone like Kerrigan.

      RDE - Kerrigan
      NT - Rubin
      UT - Rogers
      LDE - Roth

      Let's get some activity going in the Cleveland sub-forum!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by j05son View Post
        Our draft position is a little "eh" for me...While I would love to go BPA and grab either Green, Peterson, Fairley or Bowers if one of them slips...If none of those guys slip though, that's when it goes "eh" for me...

        I honestly don't know much about Quinn other than he was suspended for the year and he's a freak athlete. How's his motor? Freak athlete + nonstop motor usually = big things.

        Dareus as our new UT would be amazing but that's Rogers bread and butter position. Rogers still has years left in him and is an elite UT.

        I would love a trade down to acquire another pick and grab someone like Kerrigan.

        RDE - Kerrigan
        NT - Rubin
        UT - Rogers
        LDE - Roth
        I would be down for Quinn. Which means all five of those players would have to be drafted in the top 5 for the Browns not to get any of them so I'm not too worried. At that point there might be high demand for the #6 point for one of the quarterbacks. I can almost guarantee one of the QBs will move up during workouts to warrant a top 5 pick which will make it easy to trade out of.

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        • #34
          Hey guys, I am doing a mock draft and my team is the Cleveland Browns and just wanted to get an idea of the types of picks would be best for the team.

          The biggest needs to me are WR/RT/DE/OLB.

          I traded down to 9 and then again to 13. I am still in front of STL and am planning on taking Julio. (The top pass rushers are all gone).
          I am picking:
          1.13
          2.5
          2.8
          3.11
          4.5

          What type of players would ya'll like based on the picks I have?
          Appreciate the feedback.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by footballfan098 View Post
            Hey guys, I am doing a mock draft and my team is the Cleveland Browns and just wanted to get an idea of the types of picks would be best for the team.

            The biggest needs to me are WR/RT/DE/OLB.

            I traded down to 9 and then again to 13. I am still in front of STL and am planning on taking Julio. (The top pass rushers are all gone).
            I am picking:
            1.13
            2.5
            2.8
            3.11
            4.5

            What type of players would ya'll like based on the picks I have?
            Appreciate the feedback.
            Well, with the 4-3 we're going to have a need for a MLB and a need for a DE.

            On the offensive side, I don't think offensive line is that big of a need. Lauvao had a high ankle sprain and just lost a lot of time, there was talk of him being an opening day starter. Pashos played RT amazing just not for long ending up on IR. Yates is a very serviceable player that can play guard and center. Womack is also a very good player, played great when he didn't have St. Claire next to him and he can play the right side (guard or tackle).

            So for Offensive line, I guess you can pencil in:
            LT Thomas
            LG Steinbach
            C Mack
            RG Womack
            RT Pashos

            We have a promising 2nd year guy in Lauvao who can compete for the RG job. We have a guy who played well for us as a spot starter before he himself ended up on IR in Yates. I think we just need another guy for depth and not a "starter" per say.

            We need a wideout, but we don't need another #2 guy. We need a legit #1 WR. I know a lot of people think Julio Jones will be a better pro than he was a college wideout but a big physical guy with questionable hands...Hopefully he has a better personality than Braylon =\. Massaquoi is very capable of being our #2. Stuckey was playing well for us. Robiskie, well, who knows. He started to come along last season but at other times you wouldn't even know he was active.

            I'm really high on Ryan Kerrigan - DE from Purdue but the best bet is to go BPA as all the injuries last year showed us, we have no depth.

            Let's get some activity going in the Cleveland sub-forum!

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            • #36
              Our position at 6 doesn't bother me. I feel there are about 6-7 premier guys in the draft. Between Cincy and AZ I expect a QB taken which would push one more guy down the board.

              Those guys are:

              Fairley, DT
              Dareus, DT
              Peterson, CB/S
              Green, WR
              Bowers, DE
              Quinn, DE
              Amukamura, CB

              If Gabbert/Cam Newton/Locker somehow sneak up into 4 or 5 we'd have our pick of two of those guys. Frankly, I'd love Dareus, Bowers, Quinn, or Peterson. We just don't have the luxury of taking a WR when guys like that are on the board. Desean Jackson, Mike Wallace, Tampa Mike Williams, can be found later. The best WRs in the league, Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Calvin Johnson are all buried on non-playoff teams.

              IMO theres a big drop off after that when you start to get into Julio Jones, Von Miller, etc and some guys who will rise up the board late like there always are.


              sig by BoneKrusher

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              • #37
                I disagree with not taking a WR, in our spot you take best player available regardless. Green might be the best player in the draft (he or Peterson IMO) and Fitz hasn't been buried that long, he did play in the Super Bowl.

                Also, Cameron Jordan is going to shoot up draft boards, kid looks amazing at the senior bowl. I've read reports that he'll go earlier than his former teammate Alualu.

                Let's get some activity going in the Cleveland sub-forum!

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                • #38
                  What do you guys think about Von Miller or Cam Jordan at #9? Both had impressive Senior Bowls and fit your new 4-3 defense.


                  "Just Win Baby"- Al Davis
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by RaiderNation View Post
                    What do you guys think about Von Miller or Cam Jordan at #9? Both had impressive Senior Bowls and fit your new 4-3 defense.
                    At 9? sure. What happened at 6 though?

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                    • #40
                      j05son thanks for the feedback, I did end up going BPA the whole way and ended up filling needs along the way

                      1.13 Julio Jones
                      2.5 Stephen Paea
                      2.11 Kyle Rudolph
                      3.11 Mason Foster
                      3.21 Jabaal Sheard

                      Would ya'll be happy with that?

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by footballfan098 View Post
                        j05son thanks for the feedback, I did end up going BPA the whole way and ended up filling needs along the way

                        1.13 Julio Jones
                        2.5 Stephen Paea
                        2.11 Kyle Rudolph
                        3.11 Mason Foster
                        3.21 Jabaal Sheard

                        Would ya'll be happy with that?
                        That's pretty solid. You got BPA and it happened to coincide with need too (besides Rudolph, since TE isn't really a need). I can dig it.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by footballfan098 View Post
                          j05son thanks for the feedback, I did end up going BPA the whole way and ended up filling needs along the way

                          1.13 Julio Jones
                          2.5 Stephen Paea
                          2.11 Kyle Rudolph
                          3.11 Mason Foster
                          3.21 Jabaal Sheard

                          Would ya'll be happy with that?
                          =]

                          I'm not a Jones fan but I understand the pick and it's great value.
                          Love Paea in the second. Who else was doing these mocks that Paea went to the 2nd round!
                          I like the Foster pick as well. Don't know anything about Sheard.

                          Let's get some activity going in the Cleveland sub-forum!

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                          • #43
                            With Rogers getting cut I can see Fairley or Dareus definitely in the mix now, before it was a maybe.

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                            • #44
                              It'll be interesting to see how different sites and draft analysts rank the players after the Combine, but I can't imagine Patrick Peterson, Nick Fairley, and Da'quan Bowers not being in the top 5 on virtually everyone's board. And more importantly on team's boards when they draw them up by draft day.

                              And considering how hyped up QB's get by Kiper and others, I wouldn't be shocked to see both Gabbert and Newton drafted in the top 5. If they do well at the Combine, Carolina, Buffalo, Cincinnati, and Arizona could all be interested. I doubt Mallett will be considered, but that's a possibility as well. Also wonder if Denver would consider a QB. Doubtful, but another possibility.

                              Best case scenario for the Browns obviously would be to see two or three QB's drafted in the top 5. If two are drafted that leaves some good prospects for Cleveland:

                              1) RB Mark Ingram - Only player in the draft I'd rather have is CB Patrick Peterson. But would they take him with Hillis and Hardesty on the team? I'd hope so, but with needing so much on defense they may not want to take a RB.

                              2) WR A.J. Green - Would he help the Browns? Sure would, but I personally think he's just a little overrated. A very good WR, but I'm not convinced he's the next Calvin Johnson. And keep in mind something Mike Holmgren said in one of his press conferences. He mentioned he likes our WR's, and thinks they didn't get enough touches to make plays. Also said he's used to attacking more towards the sidelines in the passing game rather than the middle of the field like Mangini/Daboll were doing at the time. I doubt WR will be the position they'll chose to draft, unless they feel Green is undoubtedly the best player by far left to chose from.

                              3) DL Marcell Dareus - Would not be my choice. Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see him as a top 6 talent. Hope I'm wrong because odds are we'll draft him or Quinn.

                              4) DE Robert Quinn - I'm not a scout so maybe that's why I don't see what others do in him. Depending on how seriously teams consider his supposed character concerns, he could fall out of the top 10. Interviews he has at the Combine will weigh heavily.

                              5) WR Julio Jones - Would be unhappy with this pick. Really would. Maybe I'm being unfair saying certain players are overrated when for the most part I've only seen highlights of some of these guys and little of their actual games, not to mention as fans we don't get to watch coaches tape, but Jones doesn't appear to be a top 6 talent to me. Hopefully the Bengals will draft him at #4.

                              6) LB Von Miller - I've heard him described as a 3-4 OLB. Haven't seen enough of him to say myself, but from what I do know would be a reach at number 6 anyway.

                              7) CB Prince Amukarama - Another player I may be missing something on. Doesn't look that fast to me when compared to Patrick Peterson.

                              8) DE Ryan Kerrigan - Would be great for the Browns. Some players are just football players, meaning their mentality sets them apart. Players like Ed Reed, Troy Palomalu (sic?), etc. In this draft Kerrigan, Ingram, Fairley, and Bowers seem to have that type of mindset. Just good tough players.

                              If something happens the Browns have Cam Newton and/or Blaine Gabbert available at #6 it'll be interesting to see if they draft them. And there's always a possibility of trading down.

                              Jeff

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                              • #45
                                I would poop in a box and send it to Tom Heckert if he drafted Mark Ingram. No reason they would draft Mark Ingram at #6. He's not even an elite prospect and Heckert drafted his guy in Hardesty and Hillis had a pro-bowl caliber year. There are way too many needs besides Mark Ingram who isn't even close to BPA.

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