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  • My personal opinion for the draft... (Top Needs not picked by round)

    1. RG (Rivera looks to have tailed off significantly)
    2. LT (I love Flozell but, his lateral movement...ugh)
    3. NT (Fergie has been excellent but, not getting any younger)
    4. PR (Prior to injury Thompson was top in the NFC in KR avg so, I think we need a PR guy only.)
    5. K (Lets see how Martin works out, we need someone)
    6. WR (I dont really believe we need one but, a speed guy wouldnt hurt)
    7. LB (with the loss of Ellis and the possible departure of Al, we could use some depth)

    No need...

    FS (I wanna see more of Watkins, not a huge liabilty, sure tackler)
    CB (Glenn may be old but, he is still playing at a high level)
    QB (Romo!!!, we will need a vet backup)

    Thanks BoneKrusher^

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=6_j52DziMy4 (the man)
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=2g6S3Anto7c
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    • Laron Landry is the real deal. He will be a top 10 pick once the combine rolls around. I guarantee he puts up better numbers speed / strength / size wise than any other safety in the nation. He will run 4.4 or lower. He ran a 4.34 coming out of High School.

      Don't take this as a homer statement either, I think Jamarcus Russell will be the biggest bust in the first round if he's drafted that high. He makes the worst mental mistakes despite the talent to be a great player. Be fore warned that any team that expects to take Jamarcus and go on to great things is in for a rude awakening.

      If Glenn Dorsey choses to come out as a Junior this year, any team that drafts him in the 3rd round is getting a steal!

      As for the Cowboys, I personally think that the first round pick needs to be a CB / WR or RB. The only reason I put RB up there is if a talented RB slides to us unexpetedly (ala Stephen Jackson in 2004).

      CB is an area where we have some serious talent but also is a position that a great player can help immediately without starting (nickel / dime and as a KR / PR or on other ST).

      With regards to who we draft I take a different approach than some. I look to see if there is any position of QUANTITY that we lack talent at.

      S - lots of just a guys on this team here, but Watkins has potential
      LB - stacked
      DL - stacked with possible exception of NT
      OL - LT and RG are possibilities
      WR - Definite need for talent here that is young.
      QB - Set
      RB - Most injury prone position in the NFL - MBIII is NOT, I repeat NOT a feature back for a full season
      TE - Set

      CB is a high demand position where you can never have too many CBs. Also, Nate Jones and Jaq Reeves are decent but if Newman or Henry went down for an extended period I'd be extremely worried. How long can Aaron Glenn be expected to play at a high level?

      I really want us to draft a CB / WR / RB (whichever holds the most value at the pick available) in the first round.

      I don't think we'll address OL until rounds 3+.


      Also, I know alot of you don't read footballoutsiders.com but according to their metrics, Dallas is the ONLY team in the NFL in the top 5 in Offense and Defense based on success rate. You don't get that type of success rate with a terrible OL. Our OL is top 10 in the NFL right now so it doesn't concern me nearly as much as it appears to concern everyone else.

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      Originally posted by DMWSackMachine
      I just wanna warn you guys not to take TNew41 too seriously. He's....let's just say, special. He's fairly harmless, though. He just needs several years of seasoning before he tries to make any more points, is all.

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      • I have said this once, but I think instead of going after a tailback we should try getting Brian Leonard for FB. He is somebody you can trust to run, block, and catch out of the backfield. That would also let us move Hoyte back to LB, though I don't know how likely that really is.

        I think the best thing would be to address one of the OL positions and NT in free agency. I really don't think it is that likely that Parcells uses two first day picks on offensive linemen, and NT isn't an easy position to come into the NFL and play early. Hopefully Stanley puts on some more muscle in the off season and we can keep him too.

        Other FA needs are- QB and K

        If we can pick those up in FA I think we should draft-
        OG or OT early
        CB with return skills
        Leonard
        OL
        Saftey
        Maybe a QB
        WR (if Crayton isn't resigned)

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        • Originally posted by fryman
          I have said this once, but I think instead of going after a tailback we should try getting Brian Leonard for FB. He is somebody you can trust to run, block, and catch out of the backfield. That would also let us move Hoyte back to LB, though I don't know how likely that really is.

          I think the best thing would be to address one of the OL positions and NT in free agency. I really don't think it is that likely that Parcells uses two first day picks on offensive linemen, and NT isn't an easy position to come into the NFL and play early. Hopefully Stanley puts on some more muscle in the off season and we can keep him too.

          Other FA needs are- QB and K

          If we can pick those up in FA I think we should draft-
          OG or OT early
          CB with return skills
          Leonard
          OL
          Saftey
          Maybe a QB
          WR (if Crayton isn't resigned)
          Leonard is the second coming of Richie Anderson... A Parcells guy but, the FB doesnt have a huge role in our O. Seems like it would be a pick wasted.

          Thanks BoneKrusher^

          http://youtube.com/watch?v=6_j52DziMy4 (the man)
          http://youtube.com/watch?v=2g6S3Anto7c
          KO KNOWS

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          • Originally posted by M.O.T.H.
            Originally posted by fryman
            I have said this once, but I think instead of going after a tailback we should try getting Brian Leonard for FB. He is somebody you can trust to run, block, and catch out of the backfield. That would also let us move Hoyte back to LB, though I don't know how likely that really is.

            I think the best thing would be to address one of the OL positions and NT in free agency. I really don't think it is that likely that Parcells uses two first day picks on offensive linemen, and NT isn't an easy position to come into the NFL and play early. Hopefully Stanley puts on some more muscle in the off season and we can keep him too.

            Other FA needs are- QB and K

            If we can pick those up in FA I think we should draft-
            OG or OT early
            CB with return skills
            Leonard
            OL
            Saftey
            Maybe a QB
            WR (if Crayton isn't resigned)
            Leonard is the second coming of Richie Anderson... A Parcells guy but, the FB doesnt have a huge role in our O. Seems like it would be a pick wasted.
            Can you imagine alternating between 2 TE sets with Fasano to a traditional I with Leonard? Or a goal line formation with Leonard as the RB and Hoyte as the FB?

            I think our chances of actually taking Leonard depend completely upon Hoyte's progression.

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            • Originally posted by M.O.T.H.
              Originally posted by fryman
              I have said this once, but I think instead of going after a tailback we should try getting Brian Leonard for FB. He is somebody you can trust to run, block, and catch out of the backfield. That would also let us move Hoyte back to LB, though I don't know how likely that really is.

              I think the best thing would be to address one of the OL positions and NT in free agency. I really don't think it is that likely that Parcells uses two first day picks on offensive linemen, and NT isn't an easy position to come into the NFL and play early. Hopefully Stanley puts on some more muscle in the off season and we can keep him too.

              Other FA needs are- QB and K

              If we can pick those up in FA I think we should draft-
              OG or OT early
              CB with return skills
              Leonard
              OL
              Saftey
              Maybe a QB
              WR (if Crayton isn't resigned)
              Leonard is the second coming of Richie Anderson... A Parcells guy but, the FB doesnt have a huge role in our O. Seems like it would be a pick wasted.
              I don't know, I wouldn't mind another Richie Anderson. He was stud for us during Parcells' first year with us. He was Quincy's favorite target throughout. But a FB is way down my list when it comes to needs. But still intriguing.

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              • Originally posted by D-Unit
                Originally posted by bigbluedefense
                Originally posted by D-Unit
                Originally posted by dpl85
                What do yall think of the Levi Brown pick in the new mock? I don't think RT is really that big of a need anymore with Colombo playin well. I also don't think RT is a critically important position. Our track record of drafting o-lineman high is just so incredibly poor I'd rather see us address that in FA.
                I like Levi Brown, but I don't like Scott's analysis. Is Columbo really as bad as Scott makes him out to be? I really haven't been paying attention to Columbo... but only because Romo hasn't been sacked 50 million times... I think that means he's playing alright.

                I think Brown could be a good fit for us, but I'd want him to replace Flo. I haven't seen much of Brown so I don't know if he's projected better at LT or RT in the NFL... or even Guard. Maybe I'll do some research. What do you guys think? I have a hunch though that Brown is not a good candidate for Guard... If he's even willing to play it, knowing the money is at Tackle.
                I think you guys should get that FA OG from Jacksonville, whats his name? Maniwawi or something. He'd be a good fit.

                Then get that heralded OG, if he's off the board, I think you look at Jake Long. If he's off the board, then I think you give Levi some consideration.

                The thing about Levi, he reminds me alot of Marcus McNeil. But whats the chances you find 2 gems 2 years in a row ya know? I don't know, its a tough call.

                I actually have some concerns about Long right now. I did an indepth analysis of him during the Ohio State game, and I didn't like what I saw out of his pass protection. He's a bluecollar tough guy run blocker, but he's not technically sound enough of a pass blocker. His footwork in pass protection needs to improve, and he doesn't engage his DE in a lockup technique very well. I don't know, but for some reason I see some Gallery in him. Anyone else have similar thoughts?
                I tried to pay attention to Long in that game, but I must admit, I was much more concerned with the score of the game. Thankfully, Michigan covered. ;) I respect your grade analysis of players and if you think that of Long then, it makes me think twice about wanting him. I still want him on the team, and hopefully his performance will cause his to drop some, because at his current rating, he seems to be going fairly high in mock drafts.

                I loved Marcus McNeill in the beginning of the college season but his back problems caused to me to change my mind on him... as well as a lot of NFL experts who's reports I was reading on him. Amazing how bad info can have such an adverse effect. With the way he's been dominating this season, he should've been drafted ahead of D'Brick! HA!

                As long as we address OL in the offseason whether through the draft or FA, I'll be a happy camper.

                The Jags OL, you speak of is Vince Manuwai. On of the strongest players ever to come out of Hawaii.... according to Hawaii's strength coach.
                Manuwai sounds like a freaking great FA acquisition for '07

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                • Just for future mock purposes, do we have any extra picks or any less picks in the upcoming draft? Any trades we did in the past, or any possible compensation picks or anything like that?

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                  • My issue is that by definition Free Agents are over priced. By that I mean that the market price for any player is set by the average offered for that player. However, you aren't paying the average price, the FA signs for the HIGHEST offer. So by the very act of signing a FA you are overpaying for them.

                    It's no coincidence that the teams that consistantly use FA to build their team are typically disappointed in the results.

                    It's the free market at it's very finest.

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                    Originally posted by DMWSackMachine
                    I just wanna warn you guys not to take TNew41 too seriously. He's....let's just say, special. He's fairly harmless, though. He just needs several years of seasoning before he tries to make any more points, is all.

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                    • Id have to do some more research on Brown. I was posting earlier about taking a NT in round one to sure up the D-line. I like Amobi Okoye, although doesnt look like he is projected(so far) to go in the first round. We might think of trading out of RD 1 and getting an extra day one pick somehow. Any thoughts?

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                      • Originally posted by bigmac076
                        Id have to do some more research on Brown. I was posting earlier about taking a NT in round one to sure up the D-line. I like Amobi Okoye, although doesnt look like he is projected(so far) to go in the first round. We might think of trading out of RD 1 and getting an extra day one pick somehow. Any thoughts?
                        Depends whose still on the board. IF Blalock, or one of those Stud LT are still there I wouldn't pass on them.

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                        • Originally posted by bigmac076
                          Id have to do some more research on Brown. I was posting earlier about taking a NT in round one to sure up the D-line. I like Amobi Okoye, although doesnt look like he is projected(so far) to go in the first round. We might think of trading out of RD 1 and getting an extra day one pick somehow. Any thoughts?
                          When you have a team with very few holes, trading down is a bad idea. You want to compile exceptional talent that could beat out the starters at some point, not draft more 'value' that might not see as much playing time.

                          When you are a bad team with no talent, you want to trade down. When you are a good team you pick where you are or if just the right situation occurs you trade up.

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                          Originally posted by DMWSackMachine
                          I just wanna warn you guys not to take TNew41 too seriously. He's....let's just say, special. He's fairly harmless, though. He just needs several years of seasoning before he tries to make any more points, is all.

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                          • Originally posted by LSUALUM99
                            Originally posted by bigmac076
                            Id have to do some more research on Brown. I was posting earlier about taking a NT in round one to sure up the D-line. I like Amobi Okoye, although doesnt look like he is projected(so far) to go in the first round. We might think of trading out of RD 1 and getting an extra day one pick somehow. Any thoughts?
                            When you have a team with very few holes, trading down is a bad idea. You want to compile exceptional talent that could beat out the starters at some point, not draft more 'value' that might not see as much playing time.

                            When you are a bad team with no talent, you want to trade down. When you are a good team you pick where you are or if just the right situation occurs you trade up.
                            i see, well how about drafting a NT, sound good to you?

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                            • Originally posted by bigmac076
                              Originally posted by LSUALUM99
                              Originally posted by bigmac076
                              Id have to do some more research on Brown. I was posting earlier about taking a NT in round one to sure up the D-line. I like Amobi Okoye, although doesnt look like he is projected(so far) to go in the first round. We might think of trading out of RD 1 and getting an extra day one pick somehow. Any thoughts?
                              When you have a team with very few holes, trading down is a bad idea. You want to compile exceptional talent that could beat out the starters at some point, not draft more 'value' that might not see as much playing time.

                              When you are a bad team with no talent, you want to trade down. When you are a good team you pick where you are or if just the right situation occurs you trade up.
                              i see, well how about drafting a NT, sound good to you?
                              Theres no Vince Wilfork in this draft. So not in the 1st round.

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                              • Originally posted by bigmac076
                                Originally posted by LSUALUM99
                                Originally posted by bigmac076
                                Id have to do some more research on Brown. I was posting earlier about taking a NT in round one to sure up the D-line. I like Amobi Okoye, although doesnt look like he is projected(so far) to go in the first round. We might think of trading out of RD 1 and getting an extra day one pick somehow. Any thoughts?
                                When you have a team with very few holes, trading down is a bad idea. You want to compile exceptional talent that could beat out the starters at some point, not draft more 'value' that might not see as much playing time.

                                When you are a bad team with no talent, you want to trade down. When you are a good team you pick where you are or if just the right situation occurs you trade up.
                                i see, well how about drafting a NT, sound good to you?
                                I wouldn't want them to do it in the first round. There isn't alot of true demand for a NT that plugs the run. Only someone like Ngata who can rush the passer warrants that type of early consideration. Pass rushing NT's aren't necessary. I'd rather they go for a skill position (includes CB in my mind) early.

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                                Originally posted by DMWSackMachine
                                I just wanna warn you guys not to take TNew41 too seriously. He's....let's just say, special. He's fairly harmless, though. He just needs several years of seasoning before he tries to make any more points, is all.

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