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  • Originally posted by Morton View Post
    Why does everyone think that Kyle Orton can't be a franchise QB?
    1. cement feet
    2. a stiff breeze can knock him down
    3. mediocre arm

    He's okay when everything is going according to plan, but struggles with adversity. We need someone who can step up when the game is on the line.

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    • Originally posted by njx9
      let me know what front seven guy you want to use a top ten pick on, outside of mcclain, who i mentioned. can't think of any with any remote value at our pick? well no ****. haden would present great value at a position that ALSO needs addressing. meanwhile, quality 3-4 d-linemen and LBs can be found in later rounds.
      I would rather reach on a Williams or Dunlap that addresses a specific need than waste another pick on a CB who would just sit on the bench for several years.

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      • Originally posted by Diehard View Post
        1. cement feet
        2. a stiff breeze can knock him down
        3. mediocre arm

        He's okay when everything is going according to plan, but struggles with adversity. We need someone who can step up when the game is on the line.
        Reminds me of Brad Johnson to be honest. Yeah might win you a championship, but the rest of your team has to be incredible.

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        • I hear a lot of anti-Alphonso Smith sentiment, especially from njx. Is he really looking that bad? Didn't you trade a pick this year to move up and get him as well? Sorry, I'm just curious about the guy because he had some hype going for him before the draft then sort of slipped post combine if I'm not mistaken.

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          • Yeah he was only a rookie last year so he could develop, but from what I remember coming out of college the only knock on him was his size. Some people said timed speed would be an issue for draft position but he didn't run too bad of a 40 at 4.52. I thought his instincts, athleticism, coverage, and tackling were supposed to be sound. Time will tell.

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            • I thought Smith played pretty well in the early going, including some nice plays in run support, but then he got dinged up (ankle?) and really struggled after that.

              I think he's got the talent to contribute at this level, but the matchups with the bigger receivers favored by our divisional rivals will never be favorable for him. He'll really have to work to be a starter... hopefully he's willing to take up that challenge.

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              • Originally posted by njx9
                yes. just like darrent williams. and foxworth. and alphonso smith before it was obvious he sucked. oh right, they all played extensively. do you actually watch this team?

                and seriously? dunlap? to play what position, exactly? and you're worried about a CB sitting on the bench for a few years?

                brilliant draft strategy. did haden kick your dog or something?
                You are an idiot if you want to use another draft pick at CB. That is probably the strongest part of the team sadly.

                Dunlap would be an upgrade over any DE we have.

                Nothing against Haden I think he will be a good NFL CB. Unfortunately that, along with LT, is the position that needs the least amount of attention (especially in the first three rounds).

                If you are content watching the defensive front get manhandled again like they have for the past decade then go ahead and waste a pick on a CB who will play 30% of the snaps if you are lucky. That is ******* brilliant.

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                • Alphonso Smith at work.


                  mucho props to wiscbadgerfootball


                  Originally posted by scottyboy
                  like honestly lebron, instead of south beach, why don't you take your talents and just shove them up your ass.

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                  • champ is average at best now?

                    Thanks for confirming you are an idiot.

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                    • Originally posted by rascal View Post
                      champ is average at best now?

                      Thanks for confirming you are an idiot.
                      he's certainly not pro-bowl caliber. the only reason he got the votes he got is because of the 2003-2006 champ bailey

                      one guy who i really like, who i'd actually prefer over haden is perrish cox. guy really reminds me of champ in several ways, and i feel like scott's description of him as a poor tackler is very inaccurate. I also think he is faster than haden, shouldn't be listed at 4.45.

                      here's a small clip so you guys can see him for yourself

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDEyXfKr5gA
                      certainly worth a 2nd i.m.o.

                      haden-
                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI984aFuo28
                      Last edited by Jimmy; 02-26-2010, 11:10 PM.

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                      • Rolando is my ideal realistic pick. Last time I asked, I didn't even think we had a shot, but the draftniks haven't been kind to him. Hopefully we get him.

                        Seriously though, Champ is average for a #1 CB now. He's still good, but he's not a top 10 guy anymore.


                        Originally posted by Scott Wright
                        Terrellezzzzzzzz Pryorzzzzzzzz!
                        Originally posted by njx9
                        do i tell you when to flip the burger?

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                        • Originally posted by njx9
                          thanks for confirming you didn't watch a single game. but hey, personal attacks are the way to go around here.
                          I watched every game and recorded every game.

                          You are the one that started it. And you are supposedly a mod.

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                          • Originally posted by MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) View Post
                            Rolando is my ideal realistic pick. Last time I asked, I didn't even think we had a shot, but the draftniks haven't been kind to him. Hopefully we get him.

                            Seriously though, Champ is average for a #1 CB now. He's still good, but he's not a top 10 guy anymore.
                            I have no problem with Rolando or Williams.

                            I disagree.

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                            • Broncos place first-round tender only on Marshall

                              Orton gets first-round tender, Scheffer awarded a second
                              Last edited by Splat; 03-03-2010, 03:04 PM.

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                              • heard schefter report this on espn, I think scheffler's tender and orton's tenders are a round too high... I suppose we are allowing teams to sign either player only if they really want them.

                                as for Marshall... great movie. glad we put the 1st rd instead of a 1 & a 3, this is 1 step closer for him being out thedoor. this would give us the capabilty if trading up. (who for?)

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