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  • #46
    Originally posted by broth223 View Post
    I dunno I think it would be really cool to have two guys who command a double team.
    If the Leos take Mount Cody, I'll break things. You don't think that Suh or McCoy will demand double teams?
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    • #47
      it'll stop the run and maybe free some of our linebackers up
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      • #48
        Originally posted by broth223 View Post
        I dunno I think it would be really cool to have two guys who command a double team.
        We have greater needs than a 2 down defensive linemen. If we want a DT there are two far superior prospects that we can target.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by noondog View Post
          If the Leos take Mount Cody, I'll break things. You don't think that Suh or McCoy will demand double teams?
          Of course they will but they require a top 2 pick. I'm not saying I don't want Suh or McCoy I'm just saying I won't break things if they end up with him in the 2nd.


          Berry or Okung / Cody

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          Suh or McCoy / Other guy who isn't a 1st round prospect for sake of arguement lets say Grahm.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by DoWnThEfiElD View Post
            We have greater needs than a 2 down defensive linemen. If we want a DT there are two far superior prospects that we can target.
            Cody can be a 3 down lineman IMO. He gets as good a push up the middle as anyone and would significantly help the pass rush by collapsing the pocket from the middle. Yes he will have to get better conditioned, not a big deal. Did he tell you he refuses to get into better shape or something? I don't want McCoy, I just get this feeling he's gonna be a bust. Odds are one of them (Suh or McCoy) will fail in the NFL. Remember Jonathan Sullivan? Dewayne Robertson? William Joseph?

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            • #51
              First of all, saying that IF we take Suh or McCoy then we won't get a first round talent at the top of round 2 is presumptuous and assinine...you're basically saying that you know how the first will shake out. I mean, we got Delmas at the top of two last year...that worked out alright for us, didn't it?

              Secondly, Mount Cody is a gap-stuffer, not one to chase the quarterback. You really want two NT's playing inside with no penetration? And yes, the push he needs to work on is away from the dinner table...he is WAY out of shape.

              And as for McCoy busting...I mean, dude. The chances of Cody busting > the chances of McCoy busting by leaps and bounds.

              ANYONE can bust or not live up to the hype...including Berry.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by noondog View Post
                First of all, saying that IF we take Suh or McCoy then we won't get a first round talent at the top of round 2 is presumptuous and assinine...you're basically saying that you know how the first will shake out. I mean, we got Delmas at the top of two last year...that worked out alright for us, didn't it?
                Saying that if we take Suh or McCoy at 2 means we DEFINANTLY won't get a first round caliber talent at the top of round two is assinine BUT what I can say is DT is far far FAR and away the deepest position in this draft. DT goes 6-7 deep with high end talent where say the OT talent is maybe 2-3 players deep. So which would you rather have two holes filled with top talent or one?
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by DoWnThEfiElD View Post
                  Major Wright is not going in the 2nd round. Remember we pick at the top of each round too, maybe Arenas doesn't make it out of the 2nd, but I don't see Wright being that much of a stretch. He is a 3-5 rounder at this point.
                  I agree with DoWnThEfiEld regarding Major Wright's stock in the 3-5 range. Which surprises me that he decided to come out as a junior? This is as deep of a Safety class as I can remember ... Berry, Mays, E. Thomas, Allen, Stuckey, Asante, Chancellor imo are all higher rated & off the board before Wright. That would be a whole crap load of S taken in 2 rds but people have their opinions on players?!

                  Originally posted by DoWnThEfiElD View Post
                  We have greater needs than a 2 down defensive linemen. If we want a DT there are two far superior prospects that we can target.
                  I agree, no on Cody @ #34. Do some homework and get a 330 Cam Thomas in rd 5!

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by broth223 View Post
                    Saying that if we take Suh or McCoy at 2 means we DEFINANTLY won't get a first round caliber talent at the top of round two is assinine BUT what I can say is DT is far far FAR and away the deepest position in this draft. DT goes 6-7 deep with high end talent where say the OT talent is maybe 2-3 players deep. So which would you rather have two holes filled with top talent or one?
                    Obviously two, but the notion that we can't fill a need with a top end talent in round two if we take Suh or McCoy in the first is erroneous. We have more needs than just DT and LT. DE, CB and G are a few of the more obvious positions that we could use an upgrade at. What if Brandon Spikes slips to us? Foote won't be around forever. My point is that the picture is much larger than just DT and LT.

                    Not to mention that passing on superior talent in the first to set yourself up for your second round pick is just...well, it sounds like something Millen would do.
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                    • #55
                      I've seen Taylor Mays drop into several mock's 2nd rounds ... I don't think this is possible for he should shine at the combine with triangle numbers. Thoughts of him @ #34?

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                      • #56
                        his flaws are all coachable. worst case scenario is that he makes a few lapses in coverage and gives up a couple deep touchdowns his first couple seasons then turns into a fine Pro Bowl player. That's not something too horrible compared with what we experianced this year.

                        Delmas seemed to hurt a WR or TE every other game(well knocked out for a series), Mays could hurt people during the weeks that Delmas doesn't. He's not good enough to be Sean Taylor but I think he has the talent to be that good. His skills don't come along often. He appears to be a bit laid back, but Delmas is intense and can get the best out of him. I'd say he'd definately be BPA.
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                        • #57
                          No safeties until the fourth!

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                          • #58
                            After all the Ernie Sims nonsense, you finally say something that makes sense.


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                            • #59
                              Uhhhhh... what about moving Ernie Sims to Safety? That'll work, right??

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                              • #60
                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcdJMpgyEWk

                                Go watch some of his highlights, this guy gets around pretty good for being 380lbs. Imagine what he could do if we get him down to 340-350.....I agree, he could end up being a bust, but we wouldn't be spending a top 5 pick on him (DT has one of the highest bust rates). There is some risk but very high reward if he pans out.

                                Let me clarify, I won't be upset if McCoy is picked (I obviously prefer Suh or Berry). If Schwartz and Mayhew feel he is the guy, then I trust their decision.

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