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  • #16
    Originally posted by J-Mike88 View Post
    Yes getting Casey Matthews would be awesome.... I wonder how much higher he will be picked now than he otherwise would have... considering that Clay has turned into such a monster.
    Indeed.. indeed..

    I'd love to see us go OLB in the first, then pick up a corner, a few OLineman, and a return specialist.

    We'll probably go something like DT, WR, QB, safety. :p


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    • #17
      Casey Matthews would be awesome and you figure Hawk will be gone and maybe Bishop (think he will be a FA but not sure) so who knows. It would never hurt to snag a certain 6'6 290 lbs DE also ;) Even though Watt is more of a 4-3 DE he is just fun to watch and has that same Clay Matthews attitude where he just wants to work hard and be great.

      But seriously I think we still need to address some major needs

      CB)Woodson, Williams are still solid 1 2 punch, Sheilds has been coming on, and then there is a black hole.

      OLB) Zombo has played every well and consistant but the depth isn't there. Jones is usually hurt, Chiller is better in the middle, Poppinga is okay at best, and as we have seen as of late, Zombo isn't a huge threat on the opposite side of Clay which always the offense to focus on him. It's not like the Steelers were you can not afford to focus on on just Harrison or just on Woodley because one of the two are going to get after you on any given play. As much as I like Zombo and he will get even better but I don't think he is going to demand the attention needed to take away an extra blocker from Clay.

      RB) Our run game is terrible. Grant is prettygood and it has killed us not having him but def could use an upgrade....preferibly an explosive back. Jackson is not special he is just solid all the way around. He isn't going to dominate a game or be a treat to an opposing team he will just do enough to get our run game by.

      LT) Still feel Bulaga is a RT and he has played well there, need someone to replace Chad

      We also may need to look WR with Driver slowing down, Jones is getting close to FA and Swain is useful but not a big time player. Really that gives us GJ and Jordy assuming James Jones thinks he may get to be more of a feature WR somewhere else.

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      • #18
        I absolutely love the first round of this draft but it sucks for the Packers. No good OL, too many DE/DT I like that we don't need, two elite corners that will get drafted too high, no good 3-4 OLBs I like for us, etc. Here's some guys I might want:

        Anthony Castanzo: Our run blocking is garbage. Him and Bulaga would probably change that, though I don't know who ends up playing where.

        Gabe Carimi: Same reasoning, but I'd probably put him at LG. Possibly Carimi at RT and Bulaga at LG or LT.

        Mark Ingram: Not my favorite but he's got some speed and since we only have 1 RB (currently on IR) that can take 10+ carries a game he could help, in some way.

        Aaron Williams: Train Aaron and when we have to, move Woodson to safety. Let Williams battle Shields for the starter. "Williams blanket" when the "Williams wall" is gone? I'm sure there's a better nickname.

        Justin Blackmon: He's awesome and Aaron Rodgers could use a sure handed receiver he can trust.

        Who I don't want: Von Miller. I actually like him as a player but he's too much of a one dimensional pass rusher. If we draft him we would either have to turn him into something he isn't or handicap Clay Matthews and Cullen Jenkins.
        Last edited by umphrey; 12-04-2010, 01:35 PM.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by umphrey View Post
          I absolutely love the first round of this draft but it sucks for the Packers. No good OL, too many DE/DT I like that we don't need, two elite corners that will get drafted too high, no good 3-4 OLBs I like for us, etc. Here's some guys I might want:

          Anthony Castanzo: Our run blocking is garbage. Him and Bulaga would probably change that, though I don't know who ends up playing where.

          Gabe Carimi: Same reasoning, but I'd probably put him at LG. Possibly Carimi at RT and Bulaga at LG or LT.

          Mark Ingram: Not my favorite but he's got some speed and since we only have 1 RB (currently on IR) that can take 10+ carries a game he could help, in some way.

          Aaron Williams: Train Aaron and when we have to, move Woodson to safety. Let Williams battle Shields for the starter. "Williams blanket" when the "Williams wall" is gone? I'm sure there's a better nickname.

          Justin Blackmon: He's awesome and Aaron Rodgers could use a sure handed receiver he can trust.

          Who I don't want: Von Miller. I actually like him as a player but he's too much of a one dimensional pass rusher. If we draft him we would either have to turn him into something he isn't or handicap Clay Matthews and Cullen Jenkins.
          I agree with every word of this post. Especially the Von Miller part. I just can't get excited about the guy.

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          • #20
            Some guys I like

            -Akeem Ayers-A rangy athlete like that seems like the perfect compliment to an intense, physical dude like CMIII

            -Titus Young-The dude looks as close as you can get to a can't miss prospect in the mid rounds. Watching him play and looking at him on paper reminds me so much of Donald Driver, it's scary.

            -Ricky Stanzi, Colin Kaepernick, Nate Enderle, Pat Devlin and most other mid to late round QBs. If the word on the street is true and Matt Flynn really has turned into a hot commodity, maybe we can flip him for a solid draft pick(like the Falcons got for Schaub or the Chargers got for Whitehurst)...but, we'll have to start grooming the next backup. And, I like this year's crop.

            -Mark Ingram-An every down RB would be nice. I really like the second - third round group of LeShoure, Murray, James, Verreen too. And I don't see RB as a first round need...but, if he's there and it's makes sense from a value standpoint, wtf.

            -Gabe Carimi-homer. but, the more fatasses from the big ten we can fit on the o-line, the better.

            -JJ Watt-again, homer. but, I watch the dude play every week....and he's always doin' stuff. This position in the first round would annoy me, because I don't see it as a first round need.....but, again...homer.

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            • #21
              After watching all of last season and almost all of this season, OL has to, once again, be our position that we draft early and often. I hate Scott Wells, and Daryn Colledge; they are smart but not physical enough. Bulaga is only 21 years old so I will wait on him for next season, he has great feet but appears to need to add some strength. Not sure what to think of Lang, McDonald, and Newhouse.

              I would really like it if we drafted John Moffitt, who in my opinion, was the most dominant run blocker in the country.

              If Carimi is there I would totally draft him and make him either LG or RT, and put Bulaga back at LT.

              I just hate seeing us getting no push in the run game, and seeing the pocket collapse in the pass game.

              Wouldn't mind it if the Packers drafted Lee Ziemba from Auburn. The guy has started like 40 or 50 games for them. He plays tackle, he could be worthy of a 2nd or 3rd round selection.

              Sleeper: If he elects to come out for the draft, as he is only a junior, Matt Reynolds of BYU, would appear to be a great Packer.
              Last edited by bigboiajhawk; 12-13-2010, 02:56 PM.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by bigboiajhawk View Post
                After watching all of last season and almost all of this season, OL has to, once again, be our position that we draft early and often. I hate Scott Wells, and Daryn Colledge; they are smart but not physical enough. Bulaga is only 21 years old so I will wait on him for next season, he has great feet but appears to need to add some strength. Not sure what to think of Lang, McDonald, and Newhouse.

                I would really like it if we drafted John Moffitt, who in my opinion, was the most dominant run blocker in the country.

                If Carimi is there I would totally draft him and make him either LG or RT, and put Bulaga back at LT.

                I just hate seeing us getting no push in the run game, and seeing the pocket collapse in the pass game.

                Wouldn't mind it if the Packers drafted Lee Ziemba from Auburn. The guy has started like 40 or 50 games for them. He plays tackle, he could be worthy of a 2nd or 3rd round selection.

                Sleeper: If he elects to come out for the draft, as he is only a junior, Matt Reynolds of BYU, would appear to be a great Packer.
                Is Moffitt white, because with the rare exception of Marshall Newhouse, Ted Thompson only keeps caucasions on his OL. It is what it is. I know it's working in New England, but if it was that easy as rolling out 5, 6, 7, 8 honkeys on the OL, then everyone would do it.

                Sorry to be so politically incorrect, but it's becoming more apparent when you see first guy off the bench for Tauscher, is Bulaga. Then it's Spitz. Then it's TJ Lang. Then it's McDonald.... we already lost Barbre, and Moll.... come on now.

                I agree, our OL is just way too passive, finesse, weak.
                I think the OL coach has to go as well.

                How long has it been since we actually had faith on the OL on 3rd & 1 or 4th & 1? I mean we pass half the time on those plays, it's that pathetic. Or we run QB sneaks behind Colledge and Wells, and get Rodgers concussed and fumbling.

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                • #23
                  Yeah we need 3 offensive lineman still. On the plus side we can just draft the best blocker available instead of looking for a specific prototype because the only position we don't need is RG.

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                  • #24
                    Nothings going to change until we scrap all of the zone blocking schemes. We tried, we failed, we need to move on from it and get more beef upfront. Colledge and Wells are solid but nothing special, ala guys who can start but you're always looking to upgrade. Sitton is the only guy set in stone for the future and I think they need to find where Bulaga is going to play soon. Is he our LT of the future or are they going to keep him on the right side?

                    Next up we're getting really thin at CB. Woodson is rapidly declining and Shields is still very raw. I'd love to find another guy at CB so we could keep Shields in the nickle/dime role.

                    OLB is also a pressing need. Zombo played well though I think he falls into that category of Colledge/Spitz. Jones needs to stay healthy too. Gotta have pass rushers in this system.


                    Ironically we're right where we were last year. In no particular order: CB, OT, OLB

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                    • #25
                      Some guys who aren't viewed as 1st/2nd round guys that I'd like to add later in the draft at a position of need...

                      OG

                      John Moffitt
                      Will Rackley
                      Zach Hurd

                      OT

                      Lee Ziemba
                      Jah Reid

                      OLB

                      Chris Carter
                      Kenny Rowe

                      CB

                      Davon House
                      Darrin Walls
                      Cortez Allen

                      Granted we'd like to see TT address our needs early but it rarely happens that way...


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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by J-Mike88 View Post
                        Is Moffitt white, because with the rare exception of Marshall Newhouse, Ted Thompson only keeps caucasions on his OL. It is what it is. I know it's working in New England, but if it was that easy as rolling out 5, 6, 7, 8 honkeys on the OL, then everyone would do it.

                        Sorry to be so politically incorrect, but it's becoming more apparent when you see first guy off the bench for Tauscher, is Bulaga. Then it's Spitz. Then it's TJ Lang. Then it's McDonald.... we already lost Barbre, and Moll.... come on now.
                        I can never tell with you whether you're trying to make a joke or if you actually believe this kind of garbage.

                        Originally posted by princefielder28 View Post

                        Granted we'd like to see TT address our needs early but it rarely happens that way...
                        Our last three first round picks (Bulaga, Matthews, Raji) have been at the positions of biggest need if you ask me.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by princefielder28 View Post
                          Granted we'd like to see TT address our needs early but it rarely happens that way...
                          More like always happens that way.

                          Aaron Rodgers - Not an immediate need, but I think this should definitely still count
                          AJ Hawk - Our linebackers were terrible
                          Justin Harrell - I still stand by that we needed a DT, though many disagree
                          BJ Raji - Needed a NT for the 3-4 switch
                          Clay Matthews - Needed an OLB for the 3-4 switch
                          Bryan Bulaga - Our offensive line was terrible in '09

                          His first round picks have never been surprising. If you want to include Jordy Nelson, as he was our first pick that year, I'll give you that one. People always say that Thompson goes straight BPA, but he's gone for need with every one of his first round picks. The second and third rounds are where he goes more for value.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by GB12 View Post
                            More like always happens that way.

                            Aaron Rodgers - Not an immediate need, but I think this should definitely still count
                            AJ Hawk - Our linebackers were terrible
                            Justin Harrell - I still stand by that we needed a DT, though many disagree
                            BJ Raji - Needed a NT for the 3-4 switch
                            Clay Matthews - Needed an OLB for the 3-4 switch
                            Bryan Bulaga - Our offensive line was terrible in '09

                            His first round picks have never been surprising. If you want to include Jordy Nelson, as he was our first pick that year, I'll give you that one. People always say that Thompson goes straight BPA, but he's gone for need with every one of his first round picks. The second and third rounds are where he goes more for value.
                            other for Harrell, every one of those players were the BPA at the time we picked, so really it's evened out

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by jackalope View Post
                              I can never tell with you whether you're trying to make a joke or if you actually believe this....
                              I do believe what I see... but I admit I don't know Moffitt or if he fits in.
                              I'm way out of tune with the draft prospects for 2011 and I don't want to spend so much time getting into them this time.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by J-Mike88 View Post
                                Is Moffitt white, because with the rare exception of Marshall Newhouse, Ted Thompson only keeps caucasions on his OL.
                                Junius Coston, William Whittacker, and Jamon Meredith. Combined with Newhouse thats 4 out 12 offensive lineman drafted.

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