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  • Tank Johnson

    Hey guys'
    I noticed Tank got waived by the CHicago Bears. With Herm emphasizing defene moreso nowdays, and our D-Line prospects unproven, do you think Herm and Co. will take a shot with him? It seems like when he got pulled over he was barely intoxicated, and I sometimes think people target guys' like Tank, although I'd like to see what the test results were. I don't think a lot of guys' would take a shot at him due to his background, but Herm being a players' coach, could shape him up. Thoughts?
    hate him back, it works for me.

  • #2
    Good luck with that piece of crap. Lovie was a players coach too and look how that turned out.


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    • #3
      No way I would go after this guy no way for one he is really not that good just another rotion DT we all ready have he can't stay out of trouble off the field add that to the fact that who ever picks him up he still has to sit for the 8 games pass.
      Last edited by Splat; 06-27-2007, 11:59 AM.

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      • #4
        We have enough DT's already, and he's nothing special.
        Jamaal Charles is the best RB in the NFL

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Ho0k Em' View Post
          We have enough DT's already, and he's nothing special.
          He's better than most of the guys we have.

          Currently we don't have that under tackle type of player in our DT rotation unless Turk McBride steps up and becomes that player. We don't have a guy who can consistently pressure the QB from the inside.

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          • #6
            Only room for one TANK at KC.
            my scent?...like making love to a lumberjack
            <TACKLE> i will ngata give you a bj raji
            <+BOE> Scott, with Burfict's character concerns (whether legit or not) you think Pioli would draft him. :D
            <+ScottWright> Why not. Baldwin does need a sparring partner...
            Originally posted by Hermstheman83
            What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by kmartin575 View Post
              He's better than most of the guys we have.

              Currently we don't have that under tackle type of player in our DT rotation unless Turk McBride steps up and becomes that player. We don't have a guy who can consistently pressure the QB from the inside.
              We have Reed, Edwards, Boone, Turk, Tank, Stephen Williams(assuming he makes the team), and Wilkerson who will all probably get some time in the rotation. Tank isn't gonna make enough of a difference to throw some money at someone with serious character isssues.
              Jamaal Charles is the best RB in the NFL

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              • #8
                More then the numbers crunch, Tank has too many personal issues for my liking. I can understand maybe one indescretion, or two, but guys like Tank and Pacman who continually find ways to get into trouble are completely unreliable. All Tank had to do was stay out of trouble, now regardless of whether he was drunk or not, that matters not, the fact is he was out after 3 in the morning and was speeding. That indicates to me that the man is an idiot and obviously believes that he has a God given right to play football. Wrong! It is a priviledge to play in the league, and people like Pacman and Tank have lost theres, IMO.

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                • #9
                  I don't know, they said he was mildly intoxicated and speeding. I don't know if Tank is a bad person. I don't think I'm in a position to judge a guy I don't know. That being said, he's a celebrity, and at times I think people go head-hunting after celebrity's that are in trouble. I think Tank is an example of this. I mean, speeding.....c'mon. I can understand Pacman Jones. He's been arrested numerous times, doesn't seem to care that He's a role model to millions of kids. I think we can say that Pac-man Jones fits the ideal "delinquent" person. I am not sure how many times Tank has gotten arrested(anyone know)? But the fact is that he is a talented Defensive Tackle, alot better than our guys currently(minus our talent) are.

                  In the end(and ironically) it comes down to money. I think if he wants a massive salary, then absoluetly not. The guy doesn't warrant big time money. I think that is the definitive factor here. If someone gets him at a low,low price, he performs the remainder half of the season. I think if you kept him on a very short leash, gave him a minimal salary he would outperform that(due to his ability). Make it clear that if he screws up again, he's out and if he does that(which he might, and would fit the conception of delinquent) cut him, and it's not a big loss.

                  I guess I think about this as a draft prospect, except he's proven to be a valuable and proven DT. In the words of many draft gurus 'The Upside to this guy is through the roof"
                  hate him back, it works for me.

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                  • #10
                    I think we are overrating his abilities some. When Tommie Harris went down last year Chicago's defense wasn't much more than above average wheras before they were being compared to some of the all time greats. Tank more so than Pac Man or Chris Henry says the right things to the media as far as wanting to be a better person and do the right things, but when the guy knows he's being watched still makes a bad decision. I don't understand how guys making this much money can't hire a cab or a limo when they know the repurcussions of being caught. I would let him be someone else's issue, besides our young guys need to play and develop this season and bringing in Tank isn't going to help that.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ho0k Em' View Post
                      We have Reed, Edwards, Boone, Turk, Tank, Stephen Williams(assuming he makes the team), and Wilkerson who will all probably get some time in the rotation. Tank isn't gonna make enough of a difference to throw some money at someone with serious character isssues.
                      Iím going to agree and disagree with you.

                      I agree with you from the standpoint that I too donít think Johnson is worth the risk. I think Tank is a good D-Tackle. But weíre not talking about a Seymour, Henderson or Shaun Rogers caliber tackle.

                      I disagree from the standpoint that as of right now, there really isnít a proven difference maker in our D-Tackle rotation. Tank Tyler could prove to be one in time. But right now heís unproven. I actually like Ron Edwards. But Alfonso Boone and James Reed are both basically journeyman caliber D-Tackles and are pretty average at best. And to me, Wilkerson and Turk are probably better ends than D-Tackles. And Steve Williams isnít on the team any longer.

                      If you look at the really good defenses in the league youíll notices that almost all of them have at least one really dominant tackle. The Pats have Seymour and Wilfork. The Chargers have Jamal Williams. The Jags have Stroud and Henderson. The Vikes have Pat and Kevin Williams. Take a step back in time and look at our dominant 95 defense that had Saleamua, who made a pro-bowl, and Joe Phillips who was a huge load in the middle. Who in our D-Tackle rotation, as of right now, is anywhere close to those tackles in terms of talent and production?

                      Now, Iím not really for going out there and signing Tank Johnson. But I still do not feel like we are set at that position.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Ho0k Em' View Post
                        We have Reed, Edwards, Boone, Turk, Tank, Stephen Williams(assuming he makes the team), and Wilkerson who will all probably get some time in the rotation. Tank isn't gonna make enough of a difference to throw some money at someone with serious character isssues.
                        Stephen Williams isn't even with the team anymore.

                        And until McBride or Tyler prove themselves as playmakers then we don't have a single playmaker or even a halfway decent defensive tackle on the team.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ho0k Em' View Post
                          We have Reed, Edwards, Boone, Turk, Tank, Stephen Williams(assuming he makes the team), and Wilkerson who will all probably get some time in the rotation. Tank isn't gonna make enough of a difference to throw some money at someone with serious character isssues.
                          But that's the point. I would think that with the amount of emphasis that Goodell puts on discipline, no franchise will want to even think about Tank Johnson, this will force him too take a big cut in salary. So here we are with a potential impact Defensive tackle, which sadly, has been lacking in KC since the Days of Salemua with an extremely low salary(perhaps Vet's minimum). He sits out his 8 games, he's very well rested and extremely antsy to get back on the field, he shows us what he is truly capable of

                          I understand that there is a risk with tank Johnson, but like Lovie, Herm won't put up with it. So he messes up, cut him and he's done in the NFL for good. I think with the Bears waiving Johnson, he knows that the NFL is serious now. So we lose a little money with the Vet's minimum...I think that's definately worth the risk.

                          I think it's unrealistic though, although I would love to see KC do this. During the Off-season, they tend to find good players to Mentor the younger players, I.E. Donnie Edwards, Alfonso Boone, Ty Law, etc. ALthough Tank would be on the Straight and narrow, I still don't see him being a good role model, but on the field.
                          hate him back, it works for me.

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                          • #14
                            TJ would still have to sit for half the season why pick up a troubled player that can't even step on the field till game nine?

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                            • #15
                              Yea, look at shawne merriman, mr. steroids sat our four games and that turned into a career game. The guy will be fresh when other's are hurting, sore, etc. I really dont 'see how it's a bad move on KC's part.
                              hate him back, it works for me.

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