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  • #16
    Well, I was rather disappointed. My first trip to training camp was the first time practice was held indoors due to weather since 2007. Not much action as players had no pads and just about all of it was without helmets. Pretty much none of the stars did much of anything.

    Harvin did pretty much everything imaginable. They lined him up in the backfield, slot, out wide, in motion, etc., and on one play they ran the wildcat. He didn't drop a pass that I saw and caught them cleanly.

    Jackson looked good today. He made several good throws, but it also wasn't full go. Sage looked ok, but he made a lot of quick dumpoffs, instead of waiting for the downfield throw. Some of the receivers would have gotten killed on some of the throws as they were lobs or led them into the defender.

    Booty looked horrible. He didn't throw a single pass downfield, every throw that I saw was a dumpoff, and a couple probably would have gotten picked off, but the defenders let up.

    Hutchinson left practice real early. Berrian and Kleinsasser also left a little earlier(Berrian before Sasser), and none of them returned. Not sure what happened though.

    Jaymar Johnson looked real good as well, and was out with the first team offense after Berrian left. I think he has a real good shot to make the team. Rice had another great practice catching everything thrown at him, and making a nice one handed catch on a high pass. None of the other receivers really stood out.

    I didn't see much from any of the CBs as they were practicing on the other end of the field, and they didn't do or show all that much during team drills. It looked like Sapp and McCauley were splitting reps in the nickel. I din't see much action from Asher Allen, in fact I only saw him once at the beginning.

    Jasper Brinkley was getting reps with the 2nd team along with Farwell and Erin.

    Loadholt is massive. He looked quite good, he was moving pretty well for a guy that size. Hicks was getting reps with the first team with Hutch out. Sullivan was in at C with the first team of all that I saw. He looks quite small though, but maybe that was just because he was always close to McKinnie and Loadholt, and even Hicks is pretty good sized. He is listed at 6'4", but looked really close to the same height as Herrera who is listed at 6'2". He looked real lean for 301 that he's listed at.

    The DL were right in front of us at the beginning, and Jared and Pat were standing around making jokes the whole 20 minutes before practice that I was there along with a few others while guys like Kevin, Ray Edwards, and Fred Evans were tossing a ball around and other guys were doing some special teams walk throughs.

    AD and Chester didn't do much, other than some little RB drills at the beginning, and a few plays in 7s and 11s. A lot of the RB action was split between Young and Johnson. Neither really stood out other than Young made some nice catches out in the flats from Booty.

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    • #17
      My trip to training camp pretty much sold me on Harvin. Dude is electric.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by yo123 View Post
        My trip to training camp pretty much sold me on Harvin. Dude is electric.
        Same here, and that is a perfect way to describe him. It seemed like every play he was in for, he was doing something. If the ball wasn't going to him, he was at least used as a decoy and set into motion or moved around or put in the backfield or something, which gives me hope that Childress will use him right. He impressed me the most of any body or anything I saw, just above how massive Loadholt is. I was a bit sceptical of the pick, quite a bit at first after they passed up Oher, but landing Loadholt eased up on that a little bit, but I was still very worried about if Childress would use him right. It does seem that he will though, and at the very least is making defenses think about him, even if the ball isn't going to him.

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        Originally posted by A Perfect Score
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        • #19
          Biggest impressions from the last day of Vikings training camp.


          Sullivan vs. Cook:
          Ah, the debate over the center position, John Sullivan. Yes he was the starting center on the first team offensive line it appeared. Played ok, but did get a little injured when he got stood up by Pat Williams going a little over half speed. It was a contact scrimmage but not a tackling scrimmage. He went off the field for awhile and seemed pretty shook up by it all. Ryan Cook then got it, not with the first team line but did some reps at center and I loved it.

          Sullivan, yes he is a little quicker, maybe can get to the second level better and might have a better understanding of technique However Sullivan ultimately just gets in the way, he is not going to dominate anyone or push anyone around, or (Matt Birk reference) pull and be successful. He knows the little tricks, has good technique but I just hate his frame, something about either his arms or legs are out of proportion to the rest of his body. C

          ook on the other hand stands tall clearly, stays in front of the defender and can move people actually and not just be in the way. Cook has starting experience, has NFL experience, he has started 33 games in his three year career. Sure not real successful at tackle but center and tackle are completely different positions. Sullivan has no starting experience at all. Not all that disappointed in him, he gets the job done, not well, but gets it done I guess. Is the clear and obvious weak link on the offensive line however. Showed a little attitude and nasty side on this one play, but other than that he just looked like the little guy on that massive offensive line.



          Quarterbacks:
          Really not impressed with Jackson or Rosenfels. Rosenfels did throw the ball much better however, was smoother with his release and more accurate. Jackson still cannot seem to tone it down and quit throwing these bullets all the time. It will come down to who is the better leader, Jackson still gets a little too down when he fails. Rosenfels is a veteran but do the players respect him, I do not know. Gus last year at least had some fire, was competitive and intense, and was a leader. Is either of these players that guy? I doubt it, maybe but I doubt it, then again they do not have to do much for the team to win thankfully. Michael Vick anyone? Would be a hell of a lot more dangerous offense, wonder how much money the Vikings have laying around? Then it would be a press nightmare, but it is not like he is Mr. leadership either. Stupid thing is, say the Vikings had Chad Pennington, or an aging Matt Hasselbeck, they would be flat out Super Bowl contenders and both of those players are not Peyton Manning here, sure Hasselbeck back in the day but he is not that type of player anymore. Hopefully one of these two can make it happen.

          As for Booty, not very impressed, the ball did not come quickly off of his hands. Not a great arm at all, still has time to grow though and there are a lot worse 3rd string QBs out there than him.



          Backup Running backs:
          I was very impressed with the backup running backs. Ian Johnson had some good footwork, a little thin in his lower body but fast, quick and can catch the ball well. Really impressed with 35, who I believe is Antone Smith out of Florida State. He made lightning fast cuts, really changed direction well, low to the ground, I would be shocked if he did not make the team. Albert Young played well as well but Smith I must say looked faster and did make quicker cuts.

          Just a small note, why did they bring in Kahlil Bell? He is fast in the hole but not very physical and was never that good in college. He got lit up actually in a non tackling scrimmage and actually went down. Saw Brinkley giving him a cocky push in the back as well, was kind of funny.



          Fullbacks:
          As someone has said before Tahi has to go, the kid is just too out of shape, he looks fat in many respects compared to the other running backs. Broughton on the other hand looks in shape and has a nice build to him. However ultimately can Broughton block that well, will wait and see but physically he would be an upgrade but Tahi is at least a proven blocker, but is a flat out horrible weapon as a receiver, not good hands at all.




          Receivers:
          Percy Harvin was clearly explosive, very good build but is honestly more of a running back build to him. Can make plays but is not a fluid receiver at this point or a great route runner at all, will see how he develops. Glenn Holt looked pretty good, should be a very solid backup receiver who has NFL experience. And as someone said before Jaymar Johnson looks very good. Very quick, fast, smooth down the field and can separate easily. No wonder why they got rid of Allison, and I would be Johnson becomes the return man for the team over Harvin potentially. Even though Harvin took tons of kickoff returns today. Vinny Perretta I was a little impressed by, he moved really well on the field, probably won’t make the team but still he caught my eye.




          Linebackers
          Jasper Brinkley looked very good, is a lot faster than I thought and he moved around really well on the field. Should have no problem making the team.



          Safeties:
          Again my point still stands, I just do not like Tyrell Johnson as a safety. He is very stiff, not fluid, does not react to the ball all that well either. Can he make plays on the ball while it is in the air, well no, yes he can get the job done but if you want a playmaker or game changer at safety, he is not it. Madieu Williams on the other hand is so fluid, so quick, reacts so well and just flows on the football field. Too bad we do not have two of him back there. I always said last season safeties needed to make more plays, that is the only real weak link of the defense.

          Hopefully Johnson improves with one year under his belt, but that is what people seemed to think of Willie Offord back in the day as well. And see how that turned out, if you are not good in coverage, you probably never will be that good. Odd position because you want Williams to make plays, so you move him around but that means Johnson is back deep, when in a way if he is supposedly so good at tackling he should be closer to the line. Sanford did not standout to me that much, moved ok on the field but hard to see him tackle when they are doing non tackling drills.

          Little side note, it is ridiculous to see Marcus McCauley, he is so afraid to hit anything, he had so much talent out of college but clearly if you cannot tackle well in college do not expect that in the pros.



          P.S. Eric Bieniemy is an outstanding running back coach! Peterson is lucky to have a coach like that who will stay on him and push him to improve. I was always impressed with him, even at Colorado as a RB coach.
          Last edited by Ozzy; 08-12-2009, 01:43 PM.

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          • #20
            how is Jasper Brinkley looking for you guys? I was high on him in the draft?

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            • #21
              how is Jasper Brinkley looking for you guys? I was high on him in the draft?
              Jasper looks outstanding, almost better than he was in college. Still has the great size and can lay a hit, but moves really well in the open field and is much better in pass coverage than most people thought. He is playing quite well and should easily make the team. Vikings have two very talented young linebackers backing up the big three with Brinkley and Erin Henderson, EJ's little brother.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Ravens1991 View Post
                how is Jasper Brinkley looking for you guys? I was high on him in the draft?
                Yes, Ive been impressed by him all offseason so far.

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                • #23
                  yea I liked Erin Henderson dating bacck to HS. He always played my HS every year. Brinley and Henderson should be good.

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                  • #24
                    Rumors are that Favre might be coming back per some of the Viking players. Of course keep in mind that ESPN is reporting it so take it with a grain of salt (or two). I feel bad for Sage and Tavaris if the story is true. Brett needs to **** or get off the pot.


                    Another sig courtesy of BoneKrusher

                    Originally posted by JBCX
                    Despite looking better against an underachieving Eagles team, I still think the Bears are one of the worst teams in the NFL. I smell a blowout victory by the Lions this week and a division sweep.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by sweetness34 View Post
                      Rumors are that Favre might be coming back per some of the Viking players. Of course keep in mind that ESPN is reporting it so take it with a grain of salt (or two). I feel bad for Sage and Tavaris if the story is true. Brett needs to **** or get off the pot.
                      I just saw that and it pisses me off. I thought this would be done once Brett said he was staying retired and training camp started. If he comes back now and gets the starting job it would be such ********. The other guys work their ass off in camp to win the competition for the starting job, and then Favre comes and takes it without having to do anything.

                      I really hope this isn't true, and if Favre is attempting to come back, I'd hope Childress would tell him no you can't come back, it's too late and you had your chance.
                      Last edited by marshallb; 08-17-2009, 10:34 PM.

                      sig by BK and avy by me
                      Originally posted by A Perfect Score
                      If a girl is sucking me off, and I look down and shes beating off a **** of her own, I am absolutely going to tell her to stop. 100% of the time. Explain that ****.

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                      • #26
                        Even though i was in support of bringing Favre in during the offseason, i will be pissed if they bend over for him now. JUST SAY NO TO THE ATTENTION *****!!!!!!!!!!!!
                        Originally posted by MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
                        Thanks jerks, I have an exam tomorrow and reading this lowered my IQ by 14 points. Dicks.

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                        • #27
                          The only reason I would like to see Favre come back would be his return to Lambeau, that's about it.


                          Another sig courtesy of BoneKrusher

                          Originally posted by JBCX
                          Despite looking better against an underachieving Eagles team, I still think the Bears are one of the worst teams in the NFL. I smell a blowout victory by the Lions this week and a division sweep.

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                          • #28
                            Just remember, this latest regurgitation of Favre comes from Jay Glazer of Foxsports.


                            The man is a douche.

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                            • #29
                              Damnit, I seriously dislike Brett Favre.

                              The only reason that I would want Favre on the team is because he'll be a better Madden QB than T-Jack.

                              Honestly though, the team needs to get a clue. I understand the fact that he is a better player than T-Jack and Rosenfels, but do people honestly think that he has the capability to endure another entire NFL season and still lead a relatively young team to a Super Bowl.

                              Personally, I think Favre is in it for the wrong reasons and the Vikings are going for a one year thing, which isn't the way to go in this league. It will be a waste of a season and a new direction will most likely be taken after this season. Just ask Eric Mangini...

                              Stay home Favre!

                              BoneKruser with the DOPE sig

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                              • #30
                                Damnit, I seriously dislike Brett Favre.

                                The only reason that I would want Favre on the team is because he'll be a better Madden QB than T-Jack.

                                Honestly though, the team needs to get a clue. I understand the fact that he is a better player than T-Jack and Rosenfels, but do people honestly think that he has the capability to endure another entire NFL season and still lead a relatively young team to a Super Bowl.

                                Personally, I think Favre is in it for the wrong reasons and the Vikings are going for a one year thing, which isn't the way to go in this league. It will be a waste of a season and a new direction will most likely be taken after this season. Just ask Eric Mangini...

                                Stay home Favre!
                                I totally agree, whatever Viking players said that need to shut up. Seriously on ESPN they had something that said "Viking players" think Favre will join the team. Not Some Viking players, it made it seem like the entire team thinks that way and know something others do not.


                                I really do not want Favre to come, like you said he is in it for the wrong reasons and he is just flat out not that good anymore. He would be a distraction first and for most. He would also put unwanted pressure on the team to succeed. Jets players hated the man at the end of last season, so why would the Vikings love him right off the bat?

                                We will be just fine without him!

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