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  • The New Vikings and the questions facing the team.

    A few of the main question marks for the team this year.

    *Who will replace Birk? Can Cook play center or not?

    *Who will play the other safety position opposite Williams. Can Tyrell Johnson make plays?



    Starting offensive line potentially:
    McKinnie, Herrera, Cook, Hutchinson, Loadholt

    Backups
    Hicks, Kemp, Radovich

    Ideally I hope Cook can still play center, that would be the best way because I flat out do not trust guys like Jon Cooper or John Sullivan. Sure they could maybe be plays but there is a reason they were not drafted.




    A few of the new players and how they could potentially fill in.

    Jasper Brinkley- would be an upgrade at backup ILB, should make the roster.

    Percy Harvin- Obvious weapon and in a way his play making ability is more important than the success of our quarterbacks. Because if he is that great of a playmaker, the quarterback situation will not be as important.

    Ian Johnson- A nice change of pace back, runs hard, shifty and can catch out of the backfield, is ahead of Albert Young at this point I would assume.

    Termaine Johnson- Could make the team as a backup DT, did not play much at LSU but was a real player last year and could be more productive than some of the current backup DTs for the team.

    Phil Loadholt- Should start, would really help the offensive line.

    Karl Paymah- A really nice addition, especially since we cut Gordon, good experienced corner and is an improvement over the likes of McCauley.

    Sage Rosenfels- Should be just fine, if Gus was successful, Sage can be as well, he is athletic, stands in the pocket and has experience.

    Jamarca Sanford- Real sleeper, with the Vikings weak safeties he should be able to make the team. Tough hitter, if he can also cover in the passing game he could see action fast. However did play some LB at Ole Miss so clearly not the best in pass coverage.

    Andy Kemp- Could be a fine backup that they need at guard.

    Asher Allen- Should easily make the roster with Gordon being cut, good solid cover man.

    Glenn Holt- I wish he would an exciting player, but I would be surprised if he is that productive with the team.



    Other notable Vikings that could really help out this season.
    Eric Frampton- I like him as a safety, big hitter, hopefully he improved and can make the roster as a backup.

    Jimmy Kennedy- did not make many plays but is a nice experienced backup if anything happens to the Pat or Kevin Williams.

    Darius Reynaud- is a very interesting player, good strong receiver who is hard to tackle.

    It is too bad Udeze could not make his return, he would have been a fine backup for the defensive line.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Ozzy View Post
    A few of the main question marks for the team this year.

    *Who will replace Birk? Can Cook play center or not?

    Sullivan will be the starting C. He has been working with the first team the whole time. Cook had been working with the 3rd team at C.

    *Who will play the other safety position opposite Williams. Can Tyrell Johnson make plays?

    Johnson will be the other starting safety. There is really no one else who would, and I think he can make plays.

    Starting offensive line potentially:
    McKinnie, Herrera, Cook, Hutchinson, Loadholt

    Backups
    Hicks, Kemp, Radovich

    Ideally I hope Cook can still play center, that would be the best way because I flat out do not trust guys like Jon Cooper or John Sullivan. Sure they could maybe be plays but there is a reason they were not drafted.

    Again, it'll be Sullivan and he was drafted in the 6th round.


    A few of the new players and how they could potentially fill in.

    Jasper Brinkley- would be an upgrade at backup ILB, should make the roster.

    He obviously should make the roster, and has been looking good in camp, could be a good ST.

    Percy Harvin- Obvious weapon and in a way his play making ability is more important than the success of our quarterbacks. Because if he is that great of a playmaker, the quarterback situation will not be as important.

    Ian Johnson- A nice change of pace back, runs hard, shifty and can catch out of the backfield, is ahead of Albert Young at this point I would assume.

    I think he will make the roster as the 3rd RB, and could be a good ST.

    Termaine Johnson- Could make the team as a backup DT, did not play much at LSU but was a real player last year and could be more productive than some of the current backup DTs for the team.

    I don't think he'll make the team.

    Phil Loadholt- Should start, would really help the offensive line.

    He should really help out as he will be a huge improvement over Cook.

    Karl Paymah- A really nice addition, especially since we cut Gordon, good experienced corner and is an improvement over the likes of McCauley.

    I don't know about him. I think he will be a good ST, but I'm not sure if he will be the nickel back with some of the other CBs have a good camp.

    Sage Rosenfels- Should be just fine, if Gus was successful, Sage can be as well, he is athletic, stands in the pocket and has experience.

    He has been doing better, but I don't think he will beat out Jackson.

    Jamarca Sanford- Real sleeper, with the Vikings weak safeties he should be able to make the team. Tough hitter, if he can also cover in the passing game he could see action fast. However did play some LB at Ole Miss so clearly not the best in pass coverage.

    I think he will be on the practice squad.

    Andy Kemp- Could be a fine backup that they need at guard.

    Practice squad as well or cut.

    Asher Allen- Should easily make the roster with Gordon being cut, good solid cover man.

    He will def. make the roster. He has been making some plays, and could even be the nickel back if he keeps improving.

    Glenn Holt- I wish he would an exciting player, but I would be surprised if he is that productive with the team.

    I have a feeling that he will get cut.

    Other notable Vikings that could really help out this season.
    Eric Frampton- I like him as a safety, big hitter, hopefully he improved and can make the roster as a backup.

    I would think he will be a backup at S.

    Jimmy Kennedy- did not make many plays but is a nice experienced backup if anything happens to the Pat or Kevin Williams.

    Another backup.

    Darius Reynaud- is a very interesting player, good strong receiver who is hard to tackle.

    I think he will make the roster, but I think he will be one of the last guys to make it.

    It is too bad Udeze could not make his return, he would have been a fine backup for the defensive line.

    Watch out for Jaymar Johnson. He is a 2nd year WR, and has been having one hell of a camp and offseason. He is reportedly as quick as Harvin in some drills. It sounds like he is ahead of Reynaud at this point, and with Allison being cut, I think he should make the team unless he gets injured.
    Responses in bold.
    Last edited by marshallb; 08-04-2009, 02:53 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Ozzy View Post

      *Who will replace Birk? Can Cook play center or not?
      I think we will be fine with Sullivan at center. I think he was a very good player on a bad Notre dame team is why he fell so far in the draft.
      (He did in fact get drafted 6th round btw.)

      I think that Ryan Cook is no better then a back up.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ozzy View Post
        Karl Paymah- A really nice addition, especially since we cut Gordon, good experienced corner and is an improvement over the likes of McCauley.

        Asher Allen- Should easily make the roster with Gordon being cut, good solid cover man.
        I think Asher Allen might be our nickel CB at the start of the season, I hear he has been impressive at camp.

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        • #5
          So Sullivan is the starter huh? And sorry I must have forgot he was drafted. Still the guy does not wow me and never did in college. We are replacing a Pro Bowl center, there is no way Sullivan goes in and we are just good to go, the kid is no where close to Birk.

          Thus Cook he at least has NFL experience. Sure he did not do all that great at tackle, but he still has ability and did play center in college. That is why they picked Cook to start with, a potential starting center when Birk leaves.

          He is playing that bad? Guess it would not take long to find out, still think Sullivan might not be as good as most think. And still say Cook, even average is better than Sullivan potentially as a starting center next year.


          As for Tyrell, I still have very little faith in him as a playmaker, he made very few impact plays last season. Did not play the ball well in the air at all and made few if any big hits. Sure maybe he will improve but if he is not really good they will have problems on defense.




          I say Jackson is the starter, he played better after injury last year and gives the team a bigger threat at QB. However I still say if Harvin is a huge offensive weapon, who plays quarterback will mean very little because the offense will be successful with three legit receiving weapons at WR and TE.

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          • #6
            I think that Tyrell will be fine. Rookies usually don't make impact plays as it is. Patience....
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            • #7
              Ryan Cook has already proven to not be a starting NFL caliber lineman. I'm not sure why we wouldn't give the young guy a chance.

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              • #8
                Sure give Sullivan a chance but this center question mark could have just as big of an impact on the team as who the starting quarterback is.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ozzy View Post
                  Sure give Sullivan a chance but this center question mark could have just as big of an impact on the team as who the starting quarterback is.


                  No not at all. Quarterback is the most important position on the field by far. Center...well, isn't.

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                  • #10
                    No not at all. Quarterback is the most important position on the field by far. Center...well, isn't.
                    In reality, that is correct, but for this team I am pretty sure of what to expect out of Jackson and or Rosenfels. What to expect out of Sullivan and or Cook, that is very up in the air at the moment. And based on the fact we are a running football team, the fact we are losing a pro bowl center, that is quite a big deal.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ozzy View Post
                      Thus Cook he at least has NFL experience. Sure he did not do all that great at tackle, but he still has ability and did play center in college.
                      So your saying we should start Ryan Cook at center this season?

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                      • #12
                        Matt Birk isn't that great anymore. He is an slightly above average Center at best at this point.

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                        • #13
                          Matt Birk isn't that great anymore. He is an slightly above average Center at best at this point.
                          Matt Birk was a Pro Bowl center in 2007, that was not that long ago. Ryan Cook should get a chance at center, clearly if it does not go well forget it, but Sullivan will have his growing pains as well at that position. Now if we had a guy like Mack, Wood, Unger or Caldwell I would not be as concerned even though they were rookies, but again we are talking John Sullivan. Good, not great and he has to replace great.

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                          • #14
                            I don't understand this at all. It's not like a 6th rounder has never succeeded at center. In case you forgot, Birk was a 6th rounder.

                            Ryan Cook is abysmal. He was horrible at RT and would be horrible at C. Sullivan is a young guy and while you don't know what you're getting with him you won't know unless you give him the chance. There is no sense sending Cook in there when he has already proven that he is useless.

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                            • #15
                              I think Sanford makes the roster over one of: Abdullah or Frampton. Sanford is a hitting machine back there at Safety, and a guy like that should be able to make some plays on ST, plus I believe I saw him working with the 2nd team defense at camp.

                              I want Brinkley to make the team over David Herron right now, but Herron was ahead of him last I saw at Camp.

                              Training Camp cheers for: Nehemiah Broughton!!!! get Tahi the heck out of here!

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