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    New mock draft

    1. Leon Hall - CB – 5’11” 193 - Michigan
    Workout numbers: 4.41 forty, 15 reps, 37.5 vert, 6.5 three cone
    We need a starter opposite of Webster for next season. I was hoping that we signed Roderick Hood and that would allow us to use our 1st pick on another area of need, but he is off the market along with the rest of the top DBs. Hall is a very established and experienced corner back who I believe could come in and start for us next season. He had a great combine and showed off his athleticism. I was especially impressed with his three cone speed.

    2. Justin Durant – WLB – 6’1” 230 - Hampton
    Workout numbers: 4.51 forty, 25 reps, 36 vert, 6.77 three cone
    We need a starting WLB with the departure of Emmons and Arrington. Durant is a small school player who has been very productive during his career. He is still extremely young (turns 22 in late November) and has tons of upside. He very quietly had a superb combine. He is very athletic and would make a great compliment to Pierce and MLB and Kiwanuka and SLB.

    3. Scott Chandler – TE – 6’7” 268 – Iowa
    Workout numbers: 4.78 forty, 16 reps, 30 vert
    Scott Chandler is a very underrated TE in this draft. We need to draft somebody to replace Shank. Chandler is very nimble and athletic for his size. He is a huge TE and should be able to develop his blocking. His receiving game is his strength and he would be a great redzone threat. I would have Ben Patrick here, but that would be a bit unrealistic.

    4. Laurent Robinson – WR – 6’2” 200 – Illinois State
    Workout numbers: 4.41 forty, 19 reps, 39 vert, 6.83 three cone
    We need two new WRs on our roster for depth. Robinson should be the first, and the second could be Mix or a UDFA. Robinson is a small school player and for that reason won’t go higher than this. I would have us taking a WR in round 2 or 3, but this WR is extremely packed and we can get a good WR early day 2. Robinson put up great numbers at the combine but has been overshadowed by other players from more prominent programs.

    5. Eldra Buckley - RB – 5’9” 205 – Tenn. Chattanooga
    Workout numbers: 4.59 forty, 36 inch vert.
    We need a scat back and although his workout numbers don’t show it, Buckley should be our guy. He is a quick RB who can come in and change the pace. He would be our 3rd RB behind Jacobs and Droughns. I don’t think Ward will make the final cut.

    6. Craig Dahl – SS – 6’2” 216 – North Dakota State
    Workout numbers: 4.59 forty, 17 reps, 35 vert, 11.03 sixty yard shuttle
    Dahl is a small school sleeper who is another very athletic prospect. He ran the fastest 60 yard shuttle out of anyone in the combine regardless of position. He won’t start on defense, but can be an immediate impact on special teams.

    7. LaRon Harris – NT – 6’3” 345 – Northwestern Oklahoma State
    Workout numbers: 1.7 10 yard shuttle, 33 reps, 33.5 vert
    I haven’t seen him play, but he is very intriguing because of his size. He had a great workout and should be a late round pick. He actually ended his workout (non-combine) with a backflip. He must have great lower body strength to do a backflip at 345 pounds. He was a division 1-A recruit but became lazy and left Tennessee.
    Last edited by ricky bobby; 03-13-2007, 02:29 PM.

  • #2
    ok well- i absolutely love the 1st 2 round picks for the giants in ur mock but after that its a little fuzzy imo- i think we gotta go Guard 3rd round like a manuel ramirez or another big guy because if the team does not resign pettigout (which im 99% sure we wont) Diehl will move out to G and we will have a gap and its important to have some depth on the oline
    I really like the signing of travis fisher but not so much green- he is very injury prone and that is the last thing we need @ this point- i would rather sign a more reliable vet
    Also i am strongly against moving Kiwi to LB- i would rather have Short start. Kiwi is a great young player and i would hate to screw him up by switching him around- however i do think it may b a waste to just have him as a backup, we can alternate him @ LB but im opposed to him being the starter

    I'm glad u had guys like Carter, who i loathe, joseph and madison being cut- it would save us a lot in salary and these players just dont quite do it for us and its time to bring in a new era
    Overall im pretty impressed, gotta say :)

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    • #3
      Kiwanuka in a Jason Taylor DE/OLB role would be awesome. He could maximize his potential at OLB. He has the athleticism to play in space. We should keep him off those huge O-linemen and allow him to run free and make plays.

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      • #4
        Cuts
        William Joseph
        Tim Carter
        McQuarters (if he gets beat out)

        Resign
        Shaun O'Hara
        Jay Feely

        Free Agency
        Donnie Edwards (2 years 5 mil)
        Eric Steinbach (7 years 40 mil)
        Justin Griffith (3 years 5 mil)
        Dominic Rhodes (3 years 10 mil)
        Dave Moore (1 year)

        Draft
        1 Chris Houston CB
        2 Eric Weddle FS
        3 Brandon Mebane DT
        4 Garrett Wolfe RB
        5 Mike Walker WR
        6 Michael Okwo RB
        7 BPA

        Depth Chart
        QB Eli - Lorenzen - Hasselback
        RB Jacobs - Rhodes - Wolfe
        FB Griffith
        TE Shockey - Moore
        WR Toomer - Moss - Tyree
        WR Burress - Walker
        LT Diehl - Whimper
        LG Steinbach - Seubert
        C O'hara - Reugemer
        RG Snee
        RT McKenzie

        LE Strahan - Tuck
        RE Umenyiora - Kiawanuka
        DT Cofield - Mebane
        DT Robbins - Seawright
        WLB Edwards - Wilkinson - Okwo
        MLB Pierce - Blackburn
        SLB Kiawanuka - Short - Torbor
        CB Webster - Houston - Underwood
        CB Madison - Dockery
        FS Demps - Weddle
        SS Wilson - Butler

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Giants Pride View Post
          Cuts
          William Joseph
          Tim Carter
          McQuarters (if he gets beat out)

          Resign
          Shaun O'Hara
          Jay Feely

          Free Agency
          Donnie Edwards (2 years 5 mil)
          Eric Steinbach (7 years 40 mil)
          Justin Griffith (3 years 5 mil)
          Dominic Rhodes (3 years 10 mil)
          Dave Moore (1 year)

          Draft
          1 Chris Houston CB
          2 Eric Weddle FS
          3 Brandon Mebane DT
          4 Garrett Wolfe RB
          5 Mike Walker WR
          6 Michael Okwo RB
          7 BPA

          Depth Chart
          QB Eli - Lorenzen - Hasselback
          RB Jacobs - Rhodes - Wolfe
          FB Griffith
          TE Shockey - Moore
          WR Toomer - Moss - Tyree
          WR Burress - Walker
          LT Diehl - Whimper
          LG Steinbach - Seubert
          C O'hara - Reugemer
          RG Snee
          RT McKenzie

          LE Strahan - Tuck
          RE Umenyiora - Kiawanuka
          DT Cofield - Mebane
          DT Robbins - Seawright
          WLB Edwards - Wilkinson - Okwo
          MLB Pierce - Blackburn
          SLB Kiawanuka - Short - Torbor
          CB Webster - Houston - Underwood
          CB Madison - Dockery
          FS Demps - Weddle
          SS Wilson - Butler

          Donnie Edwards is a MLB and would not solve our OLB crisis- i love the signing of rhodes despite his recent DUI and steinbach would b a great addition also

          In the draft we have to go OLB whether its Poz or better yet Timmons and i think we could even get houston 2nd round
          I love Eric Weddle but we have bigger needs than safety and i think we should see how wilson and demps play together again and reevaluate that position next yr

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          • #6
            Re-sign

            C Shaun O'Hara-5 years-$19.5 million
            C/G Grey Ruegamer-1 years-$700,000
            Chase Blackburn-1 years-$800,000
            K-Jay Feely-3 years-$3 million
            SS Gibril Wilson-2nd round tender
            RB Derrick Ward-7th round tender
            Reggie Torbor-4th round tender

            Sign via FA

            OLB Adalius Thomas-5 years-$33.5 million
            QB Brad Johnson-2 years-$2 million
            TE Randal Williams-1 year-$650,000
            G-Jordan Black-3 years-$5 million

            Cuts

            QB Tim Hasselbeck
            WR Michael Jennings

            Draft

            Giants trade #20 (1) to Tampa Bay for #35 (2) and #64 (2)

            2-(from TB)-Aaron Ross-CB-Texas-4 years-$5 million
            2-Earl Everett-OLB-Florida-4 years-$3.6 million
            2-(from TB)-Aundrae Allison-WR-ECU-4 years-$3.4 million
            3-Lorenzo Booker-RB-Florida State-4 years-$3 million

            4-Marvin White-FS-TCU-4 years-$2.6 million
            5-Yamon Figurs-WR-Kansas State-3 years-$1.7 million
            6-Andrew Carnahan-OT-Arizona State-2 years-$700,000
            7-Quinton Echols-DT-Kansas State-1 year-$300,000

            GIANTS DEPTH CHART

            QB-Eli Manning, Brad Johnson, Jared Lorenzen

            RB-Brandon Jacobs, Lorenzo Booker, Derrick Ward

            WR-Plaxico Burress, Amani Toomer, Sinorice Moss, Aundrae Allison, David Tyree, Tim Carter, Yamon Figurs

            TE-Jeremy Shockey, Randal Williams

            OT-David Diehl, Kareem McKenzie, Guy Whimper, Andrew Carnahan

            G-Chris Snee, Rich Seubert, Matt Lentz, Jordan Black

            C-Shaun O'Hara, Grey Ruegamer




            DE-Michael Strahan, Osi Umenyiora, Mathias Kiwanuka, Justin Tuck

            DT-Barry Cofield, Fred Robbins, William Joseph, Jonas Seawright, Quinton Echols

            OLB-Adalius Thomas, Gerris Wilkinson, Earl Everett, Reggie Torbor

            MLB-Antonio Pierce, Chase Blackburn

            CB-Sam Madison, Aaron Ross, Corey Webster, RW McQuarters, Kevin Dockery, EJ Underwood

            FS-Will Demps, Marvin White, James Butler

            SS-Gibril Wilson, Jason Bell

            K-Jay Feely

            P-Jeff Feagles
            Originally posted by Paul
            Eli's opportunity to become a legend.
            Originally posted by Vikes99ej
            These last 50 seconds will define Eli Manning.
            MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

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            • #7
              Do you think Carnahan has LT potential. I thought he was a massive run blocking RT.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jughead10 View Post
                Do you think Carnahan has LT potential. I thought he was a massive run blocking RT.
                I am not bringing him in as a LT. I am bringing him in as a backup RT, a role that I don't think Whimper would play very well.
                Originally posted by Paul
                Eli's opportunity to become a legend.
                Originally posted by Vikes99ej
                These last 50 seconds will define Eli Manning.
                MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Number 10 View Post
                  I am not bringing him in as a LT. I am bringing him in as a backup RT, a role that I don't think Whimper would play very well.
                  To me he is a poor mans Callaghan who the Pats had start at RT this year as a rookie. So he probably could fit that role well.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Number 10 View Post
                    Re-sign

                    C Shaun O'Hara-5 years-$19.5 million
                    C/G Grey Ruegamer-1 years-$700,000
                    Chase Blackburn-1 years-$800,000
                    K-Jay Feely-3 years-$3 million
                    SS Gibril Wilson-2nd round tender
                    RB Derrick Ward-7th round tender
                    Reggie Torbor-4th round tender

                    Sign via FA

                    OLB Adalius Thomas-5 years-$33.5 million
                    QB Brad Johnson-2 years-$2 million
                    TE Randal Williams-1 year-$650,000
                    G-Jordan Black-3 years-$5 million

                    Cuts

                    QB Tim Hasselbeck
                    WR Michael Jennings

                    Draft

                    Giants trade #20 (1) to Tampa Bay for #35 (2) and #64 (2)

                    2-(from TB)-Aaron Ross-CB-Texas-4 years-$5 million
                    2-Earl Everett-OLB-Florida-4 years-$3.6 million
                    2-(from TB)-Aundrae Allison-WR-ECU-4 years-$3.4 million
                    3-Lorenzo Booker-RB-Florida State-4 years-$3 million

                    4-Marvin White-FS-TCU-4 years-$2.6 million
                    5-Yamon Figurs-WR-Kansas State-3 years-$1.7 million
                    6-Andrew Carnahan-OT-Arizona State-2 years-$700,000
                    7-Quinton Echols-DT-Kansas State-1 year-$300,000

                    GIANTS DEPTH CHART

                    QB-Eli Manning, Brad Johnson, Jared Lorenzen

                    RB-Brandon Jacobs, Lorenzo Booker, Derrick Ward

                    WR-Plaxico Burress, Amani Toomer, Sinorice Moss, Aundrae Allison, David Tyree, Tim Carter, Yamon Figurs

                    TE-Jeremy Shockey, Randal Williams

                    OT-David Diehl, Kareem McKenzie, Guy Whimper, Andrew Carnahan

                    G-Chris Snee, Rich Seubert, Matt Lentz, Jordan Black

                    C-Shaun O'Hara, Grey Ruegamer




                    DE-Michael Strahan, Osi Umenyiora, Mathias Kiwanuka, Justin Tuck

                    DT-Barry Cofield, Fred Robbins, William Joseph, Jonas Seawright, Quinton Echols

                    OLB-Adalius Thomas, Gerris Wilkinson, Earl Everett, Reggie Torbor

                    MLB-Antonio Pierce, Chase Blackburn

                    CB-Sam Madison, Aaron Ross, Corey Webster, RW McQuarters, Kevin Dockery, EJ Underwood

                    FS-Will Demps, Marvin White, James Butler

                    SS-Gibril Wilson, Jason Bell

                    K-Jay Feely

                    P-Jeff Feagles


                    I think it's pretty decent, there stuff i like and dislike about it. I would like to see yours without the trading and stuff. I think once you start making assumptions like that it can be taken to an extreme. You dont know if that trade will work, or if Reese is going to even want to. Plus you don't know who is on the board, when we make that trade, so I would really like to see a more realistic one, without assumptions like trades. What would your mock look like if you used one mockdraft, your pick from a site. This way your parameters are almost set, on whose going to be drafted ahead of us, and than go from there.. That's the danger of these mocks because one doesnt know the whole situation, and so the whole story may not be told.

                    I like your players you listed, but I still want to know what you would think, out of curiosity minus the trades.

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                    • #11
                      You guys really did your HW. I like some of the sleeper picks.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Shockey+Manning=Shocking View Post
                        I think it's pretty decent, there stuff i like and dislike about it. I would like to see yours without the trading and stuff. I think once you start making assumptions like that it can be taken to an extreme. You dont know if that trade will work, or if Reese is going to even want to. Plus you don't know who is on the board, when we make that trade, so I would really like to see a more realistic one, without assumptions like trades. What would your mock look like if you used one mockdraft, your pick from a site. This way your parameters are almost set, on whose going to be drafted ahead of us, and than go from there.. That's the danger of these mocks because one doesnt know the whole situation, and so the whole story may not be told.

                        I like your players you listed, but I still want to know what you would think, out of curiosity minus the trades.
                        Yes- i like the trade actually it allows to get a great athlete and CB in ross and get a guy like everett also- i love lorenzo booker in the 3rd that would b a good tandem i feel w/ jacobs
                        i really doubt we r able to get A. Thomas though and i actually do not want him- i think hes going to go to SF because of his former d coord Nolan as the head coach and they have a ridiculous amount of cap room- the reason i dont want him is because he is 30 years old turning 31. I think we gotta build through the draft defensively not through FA which we have tried ie arrington , madison and it didnt pan out well. I think we should go for a stud LB 1st round like Poz or Timmons or Beason and we could may b even get Ross 2nd round (unlikely but ya know) or if not a guy like Hughes or Josh Wilson.
                        I like the signings of Jordan Black and Brad Johnson however

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                        • #13
                          I updated my mock draft so that we can get both Kalil and Timmons.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by hugegmenfan View Post
                            Yes- i like the trade actually it allows to get a great athlete and CB in ross and get a guy like everett also- i love lorenzo booker in the 3rd that would b a good tandem i feel w/ jacobs
                            i really doubt we r able to get A. Thomas though and i actually do not want him- i think hes going to go to SF because of his former d coord Nolan as the head coach and they have a ridiculous amount of cap room- the reason i dont want him is because he is 30 years old turning 31. I think we gotta build through the draft defensively not through FA which we have tried ie arrington , madison and it didnt pan out well. I think we should go for a stud LB 1st round like Poz or Timmons or Beason and we could may b even get Ross 2nd round (unlikely but ya know) or if not a guy like Hughes or Josh Wilson.
                            I like the signings of Jordan Black and Brad Johnson however

                            I like Booker, but no way in the 3rd.. I'd take Manny R before I take Booker, and I like Booker alot.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Shockey+Manning=Shocking View Post
                              I like Booker, but no way in the 3rd.. I'd take Manny R before I take Booker, and I like Booker alot.
                              ya i would take manny ramirez before booker also- look @ my signature :)

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