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    Hopefully he slips all the way to 20 to us. Ive said this before, and I still believe it. While we may have other "needs", I think if Branch falls to 20 it would be hard to ignore him. We've all said it once or twice before: battles are won and lost in the trenches.

    A dominant front 4 can mask alot of glaring weaknesses in the back 7. Heck, Carolina took a dominant front 4 and average back 7 all the way to the SB just a couple of years ago.

    Branch would make our dline flat out impossible to block. Is he overrated? Yeah, in some ways. But we don't need him to be Warren Sapp. We just need a big hulking NT who can occupy blockers and cause some penetration. And Branch can definately be that guy. Coffield could play UT for us next year if we get Branch, which is probably his better fit anyway. Disruption at the point of attack is more important than anything. I think he could directly or indirectly improve our defense more than any back 7 skill position player could. Imagine trying to run on us with Branch in the middle? You wouldn't even get past the dline. Osi and Stray shut down the edges, and Coffield and Branch would clog the middle like no tomorrow. And with AP going sideline to sideline, forgetaboutit. We would potentially have the best run d in the NFL. And its all about your run D at the end of the day.

    Im hoping he falls to us.

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    I doubt he falls, but if he does you gotta take him. If our DTs can develop into poormen Stroud and Henderson, with our set of ends it will easily be the best line in the league.

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    • #3
      If Alan Branch fell to #15 then thats when I seriously start to think about trading up to get him. As BBD said he could really make our D-Line dominant.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Giantsfan1080 View Post
        If Alan Branch fell to #15 then thats when I seriously start to think about trading up to get him. As BBD said he could really make our D-Line dominant.
        Yeah, I think he's probably the only player I would consider trading up for. I wouldn't mind giving up a 1st and 3rd for him. I really wouldn't. I think our LB concerns are a little overrated, and like Ive said countless times, the only real pressing need I see on defense for the upcoming year is FS. And with the depth at safety, we can easily address it in round 2 if need be. Maybe even round 3 with Weddle who could potentially fall there. (Id take Weddle in round 2 though if he was there).

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        • #5
          i heard reports are that is very out of shape and also he is much more suited toa 3-4 defense and i dont kno if he would fit in with our scheme
          hes def a special talent and exhibited great skills at Michigan but i think hes too much of an underachiever- truthfully if he fell to 20 i would entertain serious trade offers b.c we could easily get an xtra 2nd rounder for him

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          • #6
            I can see him falling out of the top 10 with all of these DEs proving their worth in workouts, but out of the 15 is extremely unlikely.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by hugegmenfan View Post
              i heard reports are that is very out of shape and also he is much more suited toa 3-4 defense and i dont kno if he would fit in with our scheme
              hes def a special talent and exhibited great skills at Michigan but i think hes too much of an underachiever- truthfully if he fell to 20 i would entertain serious trade offers b.c we could easily get an xtra 2nd rounder for him
              He is not out of shape....he had one of the more impressive agility drills at the combine and he without a doubt shaved off a few pounds.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by hugegmenfan View Post
                i heard reports are that is very out of shape and also he is much more suited toa 3-4 defense and i dont kno if he would fit in with our scheme
                hes def a special talent and exhibited great skills at Michigan but i think hes too much of an underachiever- truthfully if he fell to 20 i would entertain serious trade offers b.c we could easily get an xtra 2nd rounder for him
                We heard the same reports about Ngata last year. Everytime you have a big NT type of DT like Branch, theres always the "questionable motor/lazy" tag thrown on them. We see it all the time. I wouldn't read much into it at all.

                Branch has versatility. He has played End in the 3-4, NT in the 3-4, and NT and UT in the 4-3. His versatility is ideal, and I think he'd play great in either scheme. Probably a little better in the 4-3 because of his height. But that height didn't stop Jason Ferguson from being a solid 3-4 NT, so I think that may be overplayed.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Number 10 View Post
                  I can see him falling out of the top 10 with all of these DEs proving their worth in workouts, but out of the 15 is extremely unlikely.
                  If he slipped to 14, I would give trading up consideration. With the lack of quality players in this draft, I don't think losing a 3rd to move up for him would be that bad of an idea at all.

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                  • #10
                    Eh, if we do end up getting him, and Strahan retires next year, I could really see a move to the 3-4.

                    Coefield, Robbins, draft pick/FA at DE. Branch and maybe Seawright? to man NT.

                    Osi, Tuck and Kiwi man the OLB, Wilk, Pierce and Blackburn inside. Hell if Torbor is around he'll be giddy cause this is where he actually fits (still won't get playing time)

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                    • #11
                      i dont think he really falls past pit. either they would take him, or someone will trade up. who knows, a 3-4 teams with ammo like NE could get him. i highly doubt he comes to us.
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                      • #12
                        Dont dream of him @ 20 until he's past 11. I dont see the niners passing on him, and if he does pass eleven I'd think people would start trading up for a shot specifically at him.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                          If he slipped to 14, I would give trading up consideration. With the lack of quality players in this draft, I don't think losing a 3rd to move up for him would be that bad of an idea at all.

                          We'd have to give up our 2nd to move up that far I think....

                          My plan remains the same, trade our 2nd and 3rd to move up as far as we can in the 2nd so we can have two top 40-45 picks.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Number 10 View Post
                            We'd have to give up our 2nd to move up that far I think....

                            My plan remains the same, trade our 2nd and 3rd to move up as far as we can in the 2nd so we can have two top 40-45 picks.
                            No way that is happening. We haven't filled a single need via free agency. This mean we have about 10 holes to fill in the draft. We are in a rebuilding mode. Two high pick rookies won't take us over the top. Reese in going to build depth and I wouldn't be surprised if he did just the opposite and traded down.

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                            • #15
                              The only thing we should do this year is trade down, alan branch would be good, but I seriously doubt we need another DT to add to our five, we have the needs of 2 OLBs, DB, OL, and possibly WR, it wouldn't be a good idea to trade up.

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