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  • I wanted to ask you guys, when is Justin Millers contract up?

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    • Originally posted by jetsfan3
      http://www.mymockdraft.com/MyDraft/ftball83.aspx


      This is the best Jets draft ever.
      WOW, that would make me very happy.

      Gamertag: KRAAAWG

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      • Originally posted by Johnny4
        I'm just going to throw this out there. I'm starting to think that if we package our #1 and #2 to the skins, we could get our hands on Allen Branch. He would be our Seymour. I'm think this falls a little short on the pick value chart.
        The value is way, way short. If the Skins would bite though, i would love Branch. Especially cuz im a Michigan fan. Guys an animal.

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        • Outisde Linebackers
          1. Julian Peterson – 1/16
          2. Keith Bulluck – 1/30
          3. Joey Porter – 3/73
          4. Keith Brooking – 1/12
          5. Takeo Spikes – 1/13
          6. Mike Vrabel – 3
          7. Shawne Merriman – 1/12
          8. Marcus Washington – 2/59
          9. Lance Briggs – 3/68
          10. Adalius Thomas - 6/186
          11. Ian Gold – 2/40
          12. Demarcus Ware – 1/11
          13. Derrick Brooks – 1/28
          14. LaVar Arrington –1/2
          15. Channing Crowder – 3/70


          Inside Linebackers
          1. Brian Urlacher – 1/9
          2. Ray Lewis – 1/26
          3. Al Wilson – 1/31
          4. Lofa Tatupu – 2/45
          5. Jonathan Vilma – 1/12
          6. James Farrior – 1/8
          7. Zach Thomas – 5/154
          8. Mike Peterson – 2/36
          9. Dan Morgan – 1/11
          10. Donnie Edwards – 4/98
          11. Tedy Bruschi - 3/86
          12. Antonio Pierce - undrafted
          13. Nick Barnett – 1/29
          14. Andra Davis – 5/
          15. Jeremiah Trotter - 3/72

          The above is a list of Scott’s top 15 players for the outside and inside linebackers and then ifound the round and overall pick they were….now I know everyone is saying our need is OLB but I figured id throw them both up there for my next couple of points …It can easily be seen that while there are a ton of first round picks that turn out to be terrific linebackers, there are definitely those who are found in later rounds which can be just as good…My point being is i don’t know how high I am on Quentin Moses or the other DE/LB tweeners, but I am kind of eating my words right now but I don’t see trading the #1 pick for Michael turner (only if mangini and schottenheimer truly feel he is the real deal) to be that stupid of an idea. I also think that with a new head coach with not as much knowledge of turner as marty had maybe there could be room for a trade..say 2a and mccareins? Not a true #1 receiver but most definitely an upgrade over Mccardel Jackson and Parker. I believe that with a new team and a fire under his ass he could beat out those three for the starting position. But for now we will just assume it’s a first rounder.
          My next point being the free agent I wanted to sign was Asante but we can’t get him now and theres no point in say how bad we would have liked him its over with…so I feel Daniel graham former first rounder and Tully Banta-cain would not only add tremendous depth but take it away from the patsies…I think a combination of graham and baker would be excellent and would add another big target in the endzone. Banta-cain is young, and had a breakthrough year in his 4th year in the league. Adding banta-cain who is an already proven OLB would compensate for the OLB a lot of people want in the first round, of which we gave up for Michael turner.
          With our two 2nd rounders focus on revis, mebane or beekman. And so far I love Ikaika Alama-francis. Regardless, whatever mangini and tannenbaum do im sure will be damn good. can't wait for next year..and madden.

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          • Originally posted by Zim3031
            Another receiver? And a possession receiver at that? That was our strongest position last year. Why on Earth would we want to draft one so early?
            3 things:
            1. Coles is getting older, and with all the contact he takes, idk how much longer he can last. If you watch one game, he gets shaken up and/or hurt very often.
            2. Possesion reciever is what we need due to Penningtons weak arm. We just need guys who can run 10 yards and catch the ball.
            3. We need a big red-zone target, and Jarret defines that. The only weakness in his game is his lack of speed, which isn't very necessary in the red zone.

            If Jarret falls to #25, which i find highly unlikely, i would be very happy to take him, if and only if, Carriker, Lynch and Hall are all gone (possible for each to fall to us).

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            • 1. Coles is getting older, and with all the contact he takes, idk how much longer he can last. If you watch one game, he gets shaken up and/or hurt very often.
              Coles is 29 I believe and is in his prime. He does take a lot of beating and he probably won't be playing for more than 3/4 years. That's an awful long time to be looking ahead in the future with so many needs that are in the current.
              2. Possesion reciever is what we need due to Penningtons weak arm. We just need guys who can run 10 yards and catch the ball.
              Yes, and we have two excellent examples already on the team. Getting another is a luxury, not a necessity.
              3. We need a big red-zone target, and Jarret defines that. The only weakness in his game is his lack of speed, which isn't very necessary in the red zone.
              Oh goodie, a red-zone target, that's so worth your first round pick for a slot receiver that's there for the red zone right? Drafting a versatile tight end would bring far more value.

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              • Originally posted by Zim3031
                1. Coles is getting older, and with all the contact he takes, idk how much longer he can last. If you watch one game, he gets shaken up and/or hurt very often.
                Coles is 29 I believe and is in his prime. He does take a lot of beating and he probably won't be playing for more than 3/4 years. That's an awful long time to be looking ahead in the future with so many needs that are in the current.
                2. Possesion reciever is what we need due to Penningtons weak arm. We just need guys who can run 10 yards and catch the ball.
                Yes, and we have two excellent examples already on the team. Getting another is a luxury, not a necessity.
                3. We need a big red-zone target, and Jarret defines that. The only weakness in his game is his lack of speed, which isn't very necessary in the red zone.
                Oh goodie, a red-zone target, that's so worth your first round pick for a slot receiver that's there for the red zone right? Drafting a versatile tight end would bring far more value.
                What's wrong with having 3 great possesion recievers, 2 of them being really, really young. There is no way, your gonna tell me that you would rather have any of the TE's from this draft than Dwayne Jarret.

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                • Originally posted by nyjets5125
                  Originally posted by Zim3031
                  1. Coles is getting older, and with all the contact he takes, idk how much longer he can last. If you watch one game, he gets shaken up and/or hurt very often.
                  Coles is 29 I believe and is in his prime. He does take a lot of beating and he probably won't be playing for more than 3/4 years. That's an awful long time to be looking ahead in the future with so many needs that are in the current.
                  2. Possesion reciever is what we need due to Penningtons weak arm. We just need guys who can run 10 yards and catch the ball.
                  Yes, and we have two excellent examples already on the team. Getting another is a luxury, not a necessity.
                  3. We need a big red-zone target, and Jarret defines that. The only weakness in his game is his lack of speed, which isn't very necessary in the red zone.
                  Oh goodie, a red-zone target, that's so worth your first round pick for a slot receiver that's there for the red zone right? Drafting a versatile tight end would bring far more value.
                  What's wrong with having 3 great possesion recievers, 2 of them being really, really young. There is no way, your gonna tell me that you would rather have any of the TE's from this draft than Dwayne Jarret.
                  Is that you Matt Millen? I'm not denying that it'd be good to have several good receivers. But to use our highest draft pick and invest so much money in a position that is arguably the greatest strength on our team seems ridiculous to me.

                  And yes I would much rather nab a TE slightly later in the draft then draft Jarret at 25. We don't have any dangerous TE's but we have 2 dangerous wideouts.

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                  • I agree with Zim, we defenitly are NOT taking a WR in the 1st. If we did go for a reciever it would be a TE and Im not confident in that. I dont know how many times Ive said it but this draft is packed with good WR. We can land Steve Smith/Brandon Myles/Jacoby Jones in 5th and others before them.

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                    • i'm just saying, if theres not a player left that would fit our team great at good value, and we don't want to trade down, i wouldnt mind jarret....still, if were gonna take a reciever at 25, i wouldnt want it to be a te cuz i dont think any of these te's are worthy of that pick

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                      • Nobody wants a TE 1st round. Defense is our first priority. I think WR early is not smart.

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                        • Originally posted by El$anDollah
                          Nobody wants a TE 1st round. Defense is our first priority. I think WR early is not smart.
                          I think the point is that a TE would make much more of an impact than a WR in the first since they block and would still be a good red zone target. A tight end certainly would not be the worst thing in the world and I could see it happening but I'd rather go defensive line there if we can. I'm wondering if we fall in love with Alama-Francis and trade down into the second and take him, or even maybe take him with our pick in the first if he tests unbelievably well and we're afraid we'd miss out on him. (I'd obviously be a fan of the trade down more so than taking him there).

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                          • I think that Alama-Francis's stock will rise when the combine rolls around. If he really does run a 4.7 40 at 300+ pounds, I think he is a defenite consideration.

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                            • Originally posted by derza222
                              Originally posted by El$anDollah
                              Nobody wants a TE 1st round. Defense is our first priority. I think WR early is not smart.
                              I think the point is that a TE would make much more of an impact than a WR in the first since they block and would still be a good red zone target. A tight end certainly would not be the worst thing in the world and I could see it happening but I'd rather go defensive line there if we can. I'm wondering if we fall in love with Alama-Francis and trade down into the second and take him, or even maybe take him with our pick in the first if he tests unbelievably well and we're afraid we'd miss out on him. (I'd obviously be a fan of the trade down more so than taking him there).
                              if..the question is a definite if...but if alama-francis does test as well as projected than i couldnt agree more the draft seems real top heavy to me and no one im dying to get thats projected to be in the 20-25 area thus i think trading down and taking players we truly want is the definite way to go..plus it goes by manginis building through the draft philosophy...and hopefully alama-francis's torn pec or whatever it was he hurt in the hula bowl will be better...if not i still feel a private workout could be in line

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                              • Originally posted by Zim3031
                                1. Coles is getting older, and with all the contact he takes, idk how much longer he can last. If you watch one game, he gets shaken up and/or hurt very often.
                                Coles is 29 I believe and is in his prime. He does take a lot of beating and he probably won't be playing for more than 3/4 years. That's an awful long time to be looking ahead in the future with so many needs that are in the current.
                                Coles told the press that he doesn't know how much more he can take after he took such a beating this year. I think if he has another rough season, he will ask to get the ball less or retire at an earlier age.

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