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    I was bored, and figured I would start taking a look at what I want the roster to look like, at least right now, this is what I got....

    2007 Chargers Roster

    Quarterback: Philip Rivers, Billy Volek, Charlie Whitehurst (3)
    Runningback: LaDainian Tomlinson, Michael Turner, Darren Sproles (3)
    Fullback: Lorenzo Neal, Andrew Pinnock (2)
    Wide Receiver: Vincent Jackson, Craig Davis, Malcom Floyd, Eric Parker, Kassim Osgood, Legedu Naanee (6)
    Tight End: Antonio Gates, Brandon Manumaleuna, Scott Chandler (3)
    Left Tackle: Marcus McNeill, Roman Oben (2)
    Left Guard: Kris Dielman, Scott Mruczowski (2)
    Center: Nick Hardwick, Cory Withrow (2)
    Right Guard: Mike Goff (1)
    Right Tackle: Shane Olivea, Cory Lekkerkerker (2)

    Defensive End: Luis Castillo, Igor Olshansky, Jacques Cesaire, Derrick Robinson (4)
    Defensive Tackle: Jamal Williams, Ryan Bingham, Brandon McKinney (3)
    Outside Linebacker: Shawne Merriman, Shaun Phillips, Carlos Polk, Marques Harris (4)
    Inside Linebacker: Stephen Cooper, Matt Wilhelm, Anthony Waters, Tim Dobbins, Brandon Siler (5)
    Cornerback: Quentin Jammer, Drayton Florence, Antonio Cromartie, Paul Oliver (4)
    Safety: Marlon McCree, Clinton Hart, Eric Weddle, Bhawoh Jue (4)

    Kicker: Nate Kaeding (1)
    Punter: Mike Scifres (1)
    Long Snapper: David Binn (1)

    This lets us keep all our rookies, and a lot of our backups for last year too, so I'd be very happy if we could end up with something like this as our final roster. Unless I added wrong, it is 53, and hopefully I didn't miss anyone on here, I don't think I did.

    I don't know who exactly is Practice Squad eligible for us though, or exactly the rules regarding Practice Squads, so I'm just going to include the top eight cuts I have, although I don't think Camarillo is PS eligible for us anymore, I could be wrong. If someone does know which players I listed aren't eligible, let me know.

    "Practice Squad"
    QB Brett Elliot
    RB Tyrone Gross
    WR Greg Camarillo
    OL Tony Pape
    OLB Antwaan Applewhite
    ILB Nick Roach
    CB Cletis Gordon
    OL Jeromey Clary

  • #2
    Ok I researched a little bit about practice squad eligibility, not sure if this is from a reliable source, but it sound right to me.

    http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=1&gl=us

    Thanks to Bantx for the cool sig.
    RIP SEAN TAYLOR #21

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    • #3
      Originally posted by JK17 View Post
      I was bored, and figured I would start taking a look at what I want the roster to look like, at least right now, this is what I got....

      2007 Chargers Roster

      Quarterback: Philip Rivers, Billy Volek, Charlie Whitehurst (3)
      Runningback: LaDainian Tomlinson, Michael Turner, Darren Sproles (3)
      Fullback: Lorenzo Neal, Andrew Pinnock (2)
      Wide Receiver: Vincent Jackson, Craig Davis, Malcom Floyd, Eric Parker, Kassim Osgood, Legedu Naanee (6)
      Tight End: Antonio Gates, Brandon Manumaleuna, Scott Chandler (3)
      Left Tackle: Marcus McNeill, Roman Oben (2)
      Left Guard: Kris Dielman, Scott Mruczowski (2)
      Center: Nick Hardwick, Cory Withrow (2)
      Right Guard: Mike Goff (1)
      Right Tackle: Shane Olivea, Cory Lekkerkerker (2)

      Defensive End: Luis Castillo, Igor Olshansky, Jacques Cesaire, Derrick Robinson (4)
      Defensive Tackle: Jamal Williams, Ryan Bingham, Brandon McKinney (3)
      Outside Linebacker: Shawne Merriman, Shaun Phillips, Carlos Polk, Marques Harris (4)
      Inside Linebacker: Stephen Cooper, Matt Wilhelm, Anthony Waters, Tim Dobbins, Brandon Siler (5)
      Cornerback: Quentin Jammer, Drayton Florence, Antonio Cromartie, Paul Oliver (4)
      Safety: Marlon McCree, Clinton Hart, Eric Weddle, Bhawoh Jue (4)

      Kicker: Nate Kaeding (1)
      Punter: Mike Scifres (1)
      Long Snapper: David Binn (1)

      This lets us keep all our rookies, and a lot of our backups for last year too, so I'd be very happy if we could end up with something like this as our final roster. Unless I added wrong, it is 53, and hopefully I didn't miss anyone on here, I don't think I did.

      I don't know who exactly is Practice Squad eligible for us though, or exactly the rules regarding Practice Squads, so I'm just going to include the top eight cuts I have, although I don't think Camarillo is PS eligible for us anymore, I could be wrong. If someone does know which players I listed aren't eligible, let me know.

      "Practice Squad"
      QB Brett Elliot
      RB Tyrone Gross
      WR Greg Camarillo
      OL Tony Pape
      OLB Antwaan Applewhite
      ILB Nick Roach
      CB Cletis Gordon
      OL Jeromey Clary
      so you'd rather go with oliver than gordon? i dunno about that..


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      • #4
        Originally posted by Average OT LB View Post
        so you'd rather go with oliver than gordon? i dunno about that..
        From a potential standpoint, and the fact that we used a 4th round draft pick on him, he will most likely be the guy.

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        RIP SEAN TAYLOR #21

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Average OT LB View Post
          so you'd rather go with oliver than gordon? i dunno about that..
          To be honest yes. We have much more invested in Oliver, not to mention that we have his potential still to be decided. He had a bad preseason game one, but its not like Gordon lit the world on fire, he sure wasn't very good himself either. There is speculation Oliver could have been the number one corner in next year's draft, its worth keeping him on the roster to find out how much of that is true. It's not like keeping Gordon will do us any better.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by sdpads24 View Post
            From a potential standpoint, and the fact that we used a 4th round draft pick on him, he will most likely be the guy.
            well i dont think so, i think hes gotta earn it. Its not like hes making alot of money, or is somehow more valuable than gordon. 4th cb's arent really on the field all to often but when they are I bet Norv isnt gonna want some kid who is too raw to get the job done.. I'm all for keeping oliver, but i dont want to see him on the field.

            I'd rather cut pinnock make legendu the new back up FB and add oliver .. and leave him on the bench


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            • #7
              Originally posted by sdpads24 View Post
              Ok I researched a little bit about practice squad eligibility, not sure if this is from a reliable source, but it sound right to me.

              http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=1&gl=us
              I don't know how many years each of our guys spent on the practice squad, but I guess that would eliminate at least Camarillo from my original PS.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Average OT LB View Post
                well i dont think so, i think hes gotta earn it. Its not like hes making alot of money, or is somehow more valuable than gordon. 4th cb's arent really on the field all to often but when they are I bet Norv isnt gonna want some kid who is too raw to get the job done.. I'm all for keeping oliver, but i dont want to see him on the field.

                I'd rather cut pinnock make legendu the new back up FB and add oliver .. and leave him on the bench
                I though about that too, after all, Naanee is going to be used as somewhat of an H-Back, if he's used this year at all.

                But I'd rather keep Pinnock then Gordon. Gordon has shown he won't get it done, and he's not near as valuable, or even shown he belongs there much more then Oliver. Oliver's potential aside, do you really think we would have taken him in the supplemental if AJ wasn't big on him? And on top of that, the 4th CB this year isn't just a 4th CB, he's being groomed to be the nickel the year after that.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JK17 View Post
                  I though about that too, after all, Naanee is going to be used as somewhat of an H-Back, if he's used this year at all.

                  But I'd rather keep Pinnock then Gordon. Gordon has shown he won't get it done, and he's not near as valuable, or even shown he belongs there much more then Oliver. Oliver's potential aside, do you really think we would have taken him in the supplemental if AJ wasn't big on him? And on top of that, the 4th CB this year isn't just a 4th CB, he's being groomed to be the nickel the year after that.

                  Maybe i'm wrong but i last left off with our conversation ending with us agreeing Oliver was slow... Gordon is a small guy whos pretty quick- like a nickel


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Average OT LB View Post
                    Maybe i'm wrong but i last left off with our conversation ending with us agreeing Oliver was slow... Gordon is a small guy whos pretty quick- like a nickel
                    I agree, Oliver looked slow in the game, and Gordon may be a small, faster, guy. I'd still rather wait on Oliver and see what he can do though, then go wtih Gordon. I don't have faith in either of them right now, but the difference is, I'll never have faith in Gordon, whereas Oliver I may have faith in down the road. Who knows if it was speed or inexperience that was the reason for his poor performance. We'll see more in the season though to judge better, but I think Oliver makes the roster. Whether Gordon does too is yet to be seen, in my opinion. Although at first I did have Gordon making the roster, with 5 CB's, and cutting either McKinney, Siler or Pinnock. So who knows, Gordon certianly is quicker, but I'd rather keep Oliver there, if I had to choose.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JK17 View Post
                      I agree, Oliver looked slow in the game, and Gordon may be a small, faster, guy. I'd still rather wait on Oliver and see what he can do though, then go wtih Gordon. I don't have faith in either of them right now, but the difference is, I'll never have faith in Gordon, whereas Oliver I may have faith in down the road. Who knows if it was speed or inexperience that was the reason for his poor performance. We'll see more in the season though to judge better, but I think Oliver makes the roster. Whether Gordon does too is yet to be seen, in my opinion. Although at first I did have Gordon making the roster, with 5 CB's, and cutting either McKinney, Siler or Pinnock. So who knows, Gordon certianly is quicker, but I'd rather keep Oliver there, if I had to choose.
                      Again, I just would like to see oliver play a little bit more and in a different scenario (just like weddle) before i decide on anything.. but as of now what i do know is this: Gordon is a veteran...

                      Also, whats AJ's track record on picking up CB's.. we don't know anything on cro yet...


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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Average OT LB View Post
                        Again, I just would like to see oliver play a little bit more and in a different scenario (just like weddle) before i decide on anything.. but as of now what i do know is this: Gordon is a veteran...

                        Also, whats AJ's track record on picking up CB's.. we don't know anything on cro yet...
                        Yeah, but by that same logic, Pinnock is a veteran, why would you prefer Naanee over him?

                        I'm not debating that decision, but him being a veteran only means so much.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JK17 View Post
                          Yeah, but by that same logic, Pinnock is a veteran, why would you prefer Naanee over him?

                          I'm not debating that decision, but him being a veteran only means so much.
                          yes hes a veteran but its not the same position which makes it different. first, you know that running back is the easiest position for a rookie... a fullback isnt very differtn..

                          basically i dont think it matters whos the backup fullback, but i dont want someone playing defense who can be picked apart..


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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Average OT LB View Post
                            yes hes a veteran but its not the same position which makes it different. first, you know that running back is the easiest position for a rookie... a fullback isnt very differtn..

                            basically i dont think it matters whos the backup fullback, but i dont want someone playing defense who can be picked apart..
                            You honestly don't think Gordon can be picked apart just as easy as Oliver? The difference between the two is Oliver is loaded with potential, but Gordon isn't very much at all.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by JK17 View Post
                              You honestly don't think Gordon can be picked apart just as easy as Oliver? The difference between the two is Oliver is loaded with potential, but Gordon isn't very much at all.

                              So you see them as equal. You say that Oliver is just as good as Gordon whos a veteran at a position which strives on experience, and that his potential gives him the nod? i'll give you one thing, the potential gives him the nod, gordon seems to be all hes ever gonna be, but hes a finished product. Despite what you may think, they are not equal, and oliver needs more time. we're trying to win the super bowl before thats the playoffs.. the afc is so tough so every game counts.. what if oliver gets beat for tds that end up losing us the game? hey even cromartie got burned by a simple double move.. gordon may not be the better prospect but hes better for now-


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