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  • Originally posted by phlysac View Post
    I like what I've seen from him at both positions but think he has a much better opportunity at DE for the 49ers, but his ability at BOTH positions increases his chances of making the squad.

    Based on the depth chart and snaps seen thus far in preseason...

    1st Team
    DE - Justin Smith
    NT - Aubrayo Franklin
    DE - Isaac Sopoaga

    2nd Team
    DE - Ray McDonald
    NT - Ricky Jean Francois
    DE - Demetric Evans

    3rd Team
    DE - Khalif Mitchell
    NT - Ricky Jean Francois
    DE - Derek Walker

    4th Team
    DE - Derek Walker
    NT - Khalif Mitchell
    DE - Will Tukuafu
    That is what it seems to be so far but Mitchell has been more impressive than RJF, imo, in the first preseason camp and from what I have heard from camp.

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    • I don't know. RJF is solidly with the 2nd team and Mitchell is the 4th team NT. If Mitchell were clearly the better of the two it'd seem they'd be closer on the depth chart, but that's just my opinion.

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      • I know he's kind of short, but is there any chance RJF plays so well that they use him as a replacement for Sopoaga at DE? IMO, that would be quite a boost for the D-line, as Sopo has always been kind of mediocre.

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        • Originally posted by binary View Post
          I know he's kind of short, but is there any chance RJF plays so well that they use him as a replacement for Sopoaga at DE? IMO, that would be quite a boost for the D-line, as Sopo has always been kind of mediocre.
          I don't think, but possible. The scary thing is that if RJF were to replace Sopoaga at DE, ICE would then become the 2nd team NT.

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          • Originally posted by phlysac View Post
            I don't think, but possible. The scary thing is that if RJF were to replace Sopoaga at DE, ICE would then become the 2nd team NT.
            Couldn't RJF sill be the 2nd team NT? If Franklin were to get hurt under this scenario, RJF would move to NT and Sopo to starting DE.

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            • Originally posted by binary View Post
              He's impressing now though. Some players take longer than others to develop. Reports are that Zeigler has looked as good as any of the WRs in camp so far.
              Yeah we'll see. Remember when Taylor Jacobs was having a good camp a few years ago?

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              • Originally posted by binary View Post
                Couldn't RJF sill be the 2nd team NT? If Franklin were to get hurt under this scenario, RJF would move to NT and Sopo to starting DE.
                Of course but that's adding an additional scenario of Franklin being injured.

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                • Interesting comment from Khalif Mitchell about how he sees himself in the NFL...

                  After playing nose tackle last year in 49ers training camp, Mitchell in March asked to move to defensive end, Balmer's former position.

                  "I went up to coach (Mike) Singletary and let him know that's where my heart was; that's where I wanted to play," Mitchell said. "I'm 6-6. You don't really have too many 6-6 nose guards in this league."
                  http://www.sacbee.com/2010/08/22/297...l#mi_rss=49ers

                  Barrows thoughts on 49ers who are "on the bubble" of making final-cuts....

                  DE Khalif Mitchell. Last year the 49ers kept seven defensive lineman on the active roster. If they go with that number this year, Mitchell seems safe. He's essentially playing the same position close friend and current Seahawk Kentwan Balmer was playing last year. However, the 49ers run a 3-4 and conceivably don't need any more than six linemen. Mitchell is practice-squad eligible. (Balmer, by the way, injured both his ankle and knee in his Seattle debut last night. He'll have an MRI today).

                  WR Jason Hill. With fellow wide receiver Dominique Zeigler having a strong training camp, the pressure's on Hill, a 2007 third-round draft pick, to make an impression. If the 49ers keep six wide receivers, Hill is safe. If the number is five - and my guess is that it will be five - he is in trouble.

                  OT Alex Boone. Boone looked good at left tackle in the exhibition opener against Indianapolis and played right tackle last week in practice. That's a positive sign for a young player hoping to make the team as an emergency backup. The question remains, however, whether the 49ers feel they could safely stash him on the practice squad for the second straight season. If he continues to play well in the preseason, that option diminishes.

                  S Curtis Taylor. The good news for Taylor, a second-year player, is that he has played well in practice and is strong on special teams. The bad news is that the 49ers have an abundance of young safeties. The bottom line: Safeties are excellent on special teams and the 49ers need to hold onto their young players at the position given there is a chance neither Dashon Goldson nor Michael Lewis will be around next year.

                  FB Brit Miller. It will be hard to replace Moran Norris, a 10-year veteran and close friend of Frank Gore's, as the starting fullback. But the 49ers like Miller's toughness and ability to make plays on special teams. One more thing going against Miller: rookie tight end Nate Byham has been spending a lot of time at fullback/H-back in recent practices.

                  OLB Diyral Briggs. Briggs won a roster spot last year by playing well in exhibition games. He has benefited this summer from injuries at outside linebacker, and moreover he has looked more like a linebacker than he did last season when he was just learning the position. Whether Briggs makes the 53-man roster depends on if coaches are confident Travis LaBoy can stay healthy.

                  OLB Travis LaBoy. Based on the first three weeks of training camp, it's hard to see LaBoy making the team. The fourth OLB must be rugged enough to contribute on special teams. LaBoy missed the most of the team's practices with a concussion. The 49ers also are wary of a foot injury that cost LaBoy the 2009 season. However, he still has three preseason games to make an impression.

                  CB Phillip Adams. The first four cornerbacks are Nate Clements, Shawntae Spencer, Tarell Brown and Karl Paymah. Adams' chances increased when veteran Will James hurt his ankle last week in Indianapolis. Adams also has special teams potential. He must display that potential in the next three games.

                  CB Will James. He was playing well in Indianapolis before injuring his ankle. His fate depends on how younger players, such as Adams, play in games and how quickly he can return from his injury.

                  TE Tony Curtis. All of the team's tight ends have played well in camp, and the 49ers are certainly in a better situation than they were a year ago when they kept only two tight ends on the active roster. Curtis' problem is that the 49ers want their third tight end to be a blocker and Curtis is more of an athletic, pass-catching tight end. Still, he is versatile and is a good special teams player.
                  http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archiv...e-boys-10.html

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                  • Originally posted by Ness View Post
                    Yeah we'll see. Remember when Taylor Jacobs was having a good camp a few years ago?
                    And like Brandon Jones last year right? The difference between Zeigler and Jacobs/Jones is that both Jacobs and Jones were already on a different team for a few seasons and sucked there where as Zeigler has only been with us and has only had eight games or so to show what he can do and that was two years ago. Hopefully, he'll play tonight and show that he has more upside, talent, skill and ability than either Jacobs or Jones ever did.

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                    • Originally posted by dan77733 View Post
                      And like Brandon Jones last year right? The difference between Zeigler and Jacobs/Jones is that both Jacobs and Jones were already on a different team for a few seasons and sucked there where as Zeigler has only been with us and has only had eight games or so to show what he can do and that was two years ago. Hopefully, he'll play tonight and show that he has more upside, talent, skill and ability than either Jacobs or Jones ever did.
                      And Raye said that last season Zeigler was looking like a lock for the roster before he sprained his foot. Been back to back good camps for Zeigler and as much as I would hate to see Hill get cut I am really rooting for Zeigler to make the roster.

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                      • Originally posted by WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo? View Post
                        And Raye said that last season Zeigler was looking like a lock for the roster before he sprained his foot. Been back to back good camps for Zeigler and as much as I would hate to see Hill get cut I am really rooting for Zeigler to make the roster.
                        Me too. Even though I would keep both Hill and Zeigler, if it comes down to one or the other, im hoping Zeigler makes it past the final cuts and since im bored and waiting for the game to start, here's yet another 53 player roster and yes, I still have six receivers, lol.

                        QB / 3 - Smith, Carr, Davis
                        RB / 7 - Gore, Westbrook, Dixon (R), Robinson
                        FB / 8 - Norris
                        WR / 14 - Crabtree, Morgan, Hill, Zeigler, Ginn, Williams (R)
                        TE / 17 - Davis, Walker, Byham (R)
                        C / 19 - Heitmann, Wallace
                        OG / 23 - Iupati (R), Rachal, Baas, Wragge
                        OT / 27 - Staley, Davis (R), Snyder, Sims

                        DT / 29 - Franklin, Jean-Francois
                        DE / 32 - Smith, Sopoaga, McDonald
                        OLB / 36 - Lawson, Haralson, Brooks, Briggs
                        ILB / 40 - Willis, Spikes, Bowman (R), Wilhelm
                        CB / 45 - Spencer, Clements, Brown, Payman, Adams (R)
                        SS / 48 - Lewis, Mays (R), Taylor
                        FS / 50 - Goldson, Smith

                        K / 51 - Nedney
                        P / 52 - Lee
                        LS / 53 - Jennings

                        On a related side note, when do teams cut down to 75 players? Is it this Tuesday or am I off a week? And personally, I think that it should be 75, 65 and then 53. I dont like the huge gap between the 75 player cutdown and the final 53. Oh well.

                        And to those who still play 2K5, you can keep 54 players max while in Crappadden, you can keep 55 players max which is good for those who want to add an extra player or two from the practice squad. :)

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                        • we rarely put 3 WRs on the field, I dont see why you would keep 6 WRs.

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                          • And only 5 defensive linemen?

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                            • LaBoy is kind of looking like a beast right now...so is Briggs though.

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                              • I'd be pretty surprised if Mays turns out to be a good football player.

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