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  • I hate the Donnie Avery Pick

    I was really looking forward to the Rams draft this year and it started off excellent with Chris Long. However, after that there wasn't much to be excited about.

    We had one of the largest reaches in the draft grabbing Donnie Avery with the 33rd overall. With Thomas, Jackson, and Sweed still on the board I just don't get it. I realize we need a slot receiver, but wouldn't bringing in the top receiver (Thomas) to challenge Drew Bennett be a better option? Plus Torry Holt is 32 and had an injury plagued '07. If Holt goes down this year we will be looking at Bennett, Avery, and Reche Cauldwell. Personally, I would have liked to see us trade our second rounder for Lito Sheppard had I known we were going to waste it on a slot receiver.

    I also didn't like the Burton pick out of Kentucky. The guy can't stay healthy at all and doesn't seem to have much upside in my opinion.

    If Linehan is an offensive guru, he sure hasn't shown it. I'm curious what you guys think of the Avery pick and how you see it working out for the Rams. We had a lot of holes to fill this year and I think we addressed most, but our skill positions on offense were not addressed in my opinion.

  • #2
    I really like the Avery pick. He is a guy that can really stretch the field and has big play potential. I think he'll make a nice impact this year and going forward into the future.
    Last edited by princefielder28; 04-28-2008, 02:21 PM.


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    • #3
      This probably doesn't deserve its own thread, and your better off posting the Rams team forum

      As for the pick a lot of people thought Avery would go early 2nd, hi s agility is 2nd to none, but i do fell that Thomas, Sweed, & Jackson would of all be better picks

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      • #4
        In this draft i dont think you can complain too much about what order any of the WRs went although i wouldnt have taken him. Not being a Marc Bulger fan i probably would've gone for Brian Brohm.

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        • #5
          I still can't believe they picked him over Devin Thomas and DeSean Jackson, who is the same type of player, just better.

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          • #6
            This is thread worthy...

            Anyway, I agree. Better options out there.

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            • #7
              Devin Thomas seemed to be a perfect pick for them, big, strong, and fast. Avery no doubt is a good ball player and will fit in nicely but I think in Thomas they could have had a #2 WR, as well as a kick returner.

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              • #8
                Welcome to the ineptitude that is Tony Softli

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                • #9
                  As far as small and quick receivers with return skills go in this draft, I don't think any were preferably over Avery. Whether the Rams could have used a bigger body out wide is up for debate, but I think Avery was a fine pick and not particularly much of a reach.

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                  • #10
                    Have to consider the offense. Not all of the top rated guys fit the new scheme.

                    The Rams are going back to what they had under Martz during the GSOT days. Speedy guys that can change directions well and are smart enough to comprehend a huge playbook.

                    Now considering that the team went strong on high character types with good college production, too, the pickings got quite a bit slim.

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                    • #11
                      Avery (IMO) is every bit as dangerous and explosive as both the Jacksons. The Rams obviously saw something in Avery that made him stand out over the other slot guys (probably an extra 20 lbs), so I can't criticize the pick. Great player for the role he's gonna be put in.
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                      • #12
                        Don't hate the pick. Embrace it. It was the right move.

                        I'll say it again, it was not a reach. There were teams that would've snapped him up had he fallen. He wasn't making it out of, say, the mid-2nd.

                        He fits Al Saunders. There were late rumors suggesting that Linehan still wanted big WR's, which threw me a bit, but it was clear this was a get players to fit Al's offense draft, and not get players for Scott's offense draft. That's a big difference.

                        Is Avery a bit raw? Sure, but he is a dynamic player who has a better frame than Desean Jackson. Limas Sweed doesn't fit the offense. Devin Thomas might, but Donnie Avery is a better fit, and both have their concerns.

                        I love the Keenan Burton pick. The injuries weren't anything that he could control, if I recall. He's got good speed, size, plays quick. I'm a huge fan of Burton. Had he been healthy, he would've gone much higher, perhaps in that 2nd round mix.

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                        • #13
                          FROM RAMS FORUM:

                          Everyone is acting like the Rams passed on a Calvin Johnson type WR and took Avery. Sure there were "draftnik" rankings we have all seen throughout the offseason, but the bottom line is that the top 10-15 WR's all graded out very closely. You have to have a trade partner to trade down, and we don't know what the Rams knew about other teams boards. Ten WR's went in the 2nd round, so the chances are pretty good that if they did trade down they could have missed out on their guy. People need to realize that these pre-draft rankings are opinions and far from etched in stone fact. The WR position this year was especially jumbled. Just look at the first WR's that were taken in comparison to Scott's rankings and a Foxsports guy.

                          # WR Taken- ranks Scotts, Foxsport's Peter Fiutak,
                          1. Donnie Avery- ranked 8, 13
                          2. Devin Thomas- ranked 1, 3
                          3. Jordy Nelson- ranked 6, 4
                          4. James Hardy- ranked 4, 2
                          5. Eddie Royal- ranked 13, 14
                          6. Jerome Simpson- ranked 12, 15
                          7. Desean Jackson- ranked 3, 8
                          8. Malcolm Kelly- ranked 7, 1
                          9. Limas Sweed- ranked 2, 7
                          10. Dexter Jackson- ranked 15, 10

                          There were other draft experts who were waaaay off on how the WR's actually went, like Mayock, Kiper, and McShay. Can you see any rhyme or reason to this order when looking at rankings. It's safe to say that NFL teams were looking at these WR's a bit differently than the draftniks.

                          Also, consider the "weaknesses" of the top WR's. Would you rather deal with James Hardy rawness, lack of speed and quickness, and character issues; Jordy Nelson's lack of speed, Desean Jackson's miniture size which basically means he will always be a slot guy; Limas Sweed's drops and lack of quickness and speed; Mario Manningham's character issues and lack of speed; Malcolm Kelly's lack of speed. Why not take a 5'11" 195 lbs guy, who ran a sub-4.3 40 at Pro-day, ran a 3-cone drill of 6.30 at Pro-day (the best 3-cone time from the combine was 6.57. Avery's 6.30 is also the faster than any 3-cone time in combine history I think) On top of this, his main weakness is route running, which is a knock on almost every rookie WR. I am pretty sure Torry Holt can show him some pointers on route running. I don't know how someone can be mad about getting an absolute burner who is also possibly the quickest player the combine has ever seen.

                          Look at this link, Avery wasn't going to stay on the board very long.
                          http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn...c.php?t=403984
                          Last edited by nfrillman; 04-28-2008, 08:20 PM.

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                          • #14
                            ^That Link doesn't work...But I still liked the pick, these WR were so tighly grouped that depending on who was picking first and what they wanted, thats who would come off the board first...Avery was one of the few WR's I really wanted, and I wouldn't of minded taking him either, he has alot of upside and he's not just limited to a slot role...Let's not act like Thomas was a sure thing by any means, none of these guys are.





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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by LonghornsLegend View Post
                              ^That Link doesn't work...But I still liked the pick, these WR were so tighly grouped that depending on who was picking first and what they wanted, thats who would come off the board first...Avery was one of the few WR's I really wanted, and I wouldn't of minded taking him either, he has alot of upside and he's not just limited to a slot role...Let's not act like Thomas was a sure thing by any means, none of these guys are.
                              Thanks, I fixed it.

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