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  • Bucs set up private workout for Brandon Spikes; Sign Ruud may be on way out?

    http://pewterreport.com/articles/view/6800


    Is this a sign that Ruud could be on the way out? The Bucs also interviewed Sean Weatherspoon at the Senior Bowl, who would also be a perfect fit in the MLB position in the Tampa 2. I like Ruud, but he honestly didnt make any impact plays this past year and most of his tackles were 5-10 yards down field or more. He missed a few tackles that would have been -1 to no gains and turned into 60 yd td runs (Jon Stewart and Thomas Jones).

    I think the lack of impact plays and the fact he didn't develop into the leader the Bucs have hoped for and I think thats why the Bucs FO has not met his contract demands.

    Brandon Spikes has that firey leadership and can make impact plays and is a lot faster than Ruud. IMO, as much as I like Barret Ruud, Spikes would be an upgrade at the position and do not be surprised if he is shopped around for a high draft pick in the coming weeks leading to the draft.

  • #2
    Having Suh/McCoy in front of him, will make him look better.

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    • #3
      I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing. Spikes didn't work out much at the combine so I figure we are just doing some research on a potential first round pick who could slide down to us in the second.

      I wouldn't read too much into it, however I wouldn't be shocked if we drafted a LB in the 2nd.

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      • #4
        I agree with frubulubu: Having a good defensive line makes the rest of the team look better while having a poor one has the opposite effect. Ruud is certainly capable of being a good player, especially if we're going to stick with the Tampa 2 as a main part of the defensive scheme. The biggest problem is that he's playing behind two bums in Hovan and Sims. There isn't a whole lot Ruud can do to make plays when the offensive linemen are getting past the defensive tackles with ease and tying him up before he can make a break on the ball. That was happening all the time last season.


        As for Brandon Spikes, HELL NO! He didn't run at the Combine because his 40-time is going to be pathetic. I'm not one to put much stock in straight-line speed, but Spikes is not capable of playing the deeper zone as is required of the Mike in the Tampa 2 system. There's also the eye-gouging incident against Georgia that show's he's a mental midget in addition to being a punk; not the type of player I want on this team.

        I'd be fine with selecting Weatherspoon if Ruud is on his way out, but I doubt he'll be on the board when we're up with the 35th selection.

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        • #5
          Would that mean we use the latter pick in the 2nd round? Possibility of trading down


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          • #6
            Legacy, with all due respect, sir. He was trying to rub spit back into Ealey's face. He was not trying to gouge the kid's eyes.

            I know he might not be the fastest MLB in the draft but he did have more than a handful of pick 6's in his four years at UF. I think he could be a decent pro and has been a playmaker for us ever since his sophomore year.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ABoyNamedSuh View Post
              Legacy, with all due respect, sir. He was trying to rub spit back into Ealey's face. He was not trying to gouge the kid's eyes.

              I know he might not be the fastest MLB in the draft but he did have more than a handful of pick 6's in his four years at UF. I think he could be a decent pro and has been a playmaker for us ever since his sophomore year.
              I'm not buying it. It doesn't matter, either way, since his hand had no business being in Ealey's facemask like that.

              As for him making plays at UF, that doesn't mean a thing. Dexter Jackson was a playmaker at Appalachian State. He sure turned out real well, huh?

              Brandon Spikes simply doesn't have the speed to turn and run with eligible receivers like the Mike in a Tampa 2 must do. This play, for example, had Ruud covering Matt Forte almost 40 yards down the field:

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              Do you honestly think Spikes is capable of doing something like that? I sure don't.

              I'm sure he'll turn out to be a decent player if he lands in the right system, but it sure as hell isn't in Tampa.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Legacy View Post

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                that play was so great...one of the best plays i ever saw of a MLB

                edit: and hell no, spikes is not able to do that

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Legacy View Post
                  I'm not buying it. It doesn't matter, either way, since his hand had no business being in Ealey's facemask like that.

                  As for him making plays at UF, that doesn't mean a thing. Dexter Jackson was a playmaker at Appalachian State. He sure turned out real well, huh?

                  Brandon Spikes simply doesn't have the speed to turn and run with eligible receivers like the Mike in a Tampa 2 must do. This play, for example, had Ruud covering Matt Forte almost 40 yards down the field:

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                  Do you honestly think Spikes is capable of doing something like that? I sure don't.

                  I'm sure he'll turn out to be a decent player if he lands in the right system, but it sure as hell isn't in Tampa.
                  Brandon Spikes does not compare to Dexter Jackson in any way.

                  We drafted Dexter because of one great game against Michigan and a super fast 40 time. Spikes is actually a good player at the collegiate level and if he can manage to run a sub 4.80 forty might be worth a crap at the next level.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SloppyJoe View Post
                    that play was so great...one of the best plays i ever saw of a MLB

                    edit: and hell no, spikes is not able to do that
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SloppyJoe View Post
                      that play was so great...one of the best plays i ever saw of a MLB

                      edit: and hell no, spikes is not able to do that
                      Funny how a Nole would talk in absolutes about a Gator.

                      I do think he could do what Ruud did. Emphasis on could. Not will.

                      How fast is Ruud? Forte?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ABoyNamedSuh View Post
                        Funny how a Nole would talk in absolutes about a Gator.

                        I do think he could do what Ruud did. Emphasis on could. Not will.

                        How fast is Ruud? Forte?
                        Ruud wasnt that much of a blazer. 4.75 at the combine. Football is a game of angles. As long as Spikes can get into his drops and stay disciplined(Which is a big IF) he should fair OK. Personally I think a Darryl Washington out TCU fits bettter is speed is the issue we are having with Ruud.


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                        • #13
                          Pewter Report has been predicting for a while that the Glazers aren't going to give Ruud the big contract he wants and will eventually get. He should be an UFA this year, but is a RFA since there is no new Collective Bargaining Agreement in place. The Bucs have tendered Ruud, but aren't going to get a 1st and 3rd for him. His tendered salary next year if he stays in TB is less than $3.2M, which seems like a fair price if he's willing to play for it.

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                          • #14
                            I have actually thought of a trade scenario that would honestly work. The New York Giants have 3 quality starting DE's and might be willing to move OSI or Mathies Kiwanuka for the right price. However, they are desperate for linebacker help.

                            Why not a deal that has the Giants Send Osi Umenoria and a 4th round pick to the Bucs for Barrett Ruud and a 7th round pick.

                            Or a deal with Kiwanuka for Ruud straight up?

                            That would allow us to get Spikes at 35, a WR (Benn, THomas) at 42 and a CB and S in rounds 3 and 4.

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                            • #15
                              Why don't we keep the talent that we have, and use our draft picks on worthwhile positions?

                              Crazy idea, no?

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