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  • i cant wait for the offseason and next year.


    RIP, Sean Taylor.

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    • Originally posted by critesy View Post
      i cant wait for the offseason and next year.
      well its started!

      LOUDOUN COUNTY, VA – The Washington Redskins announced today that they have signed free agent offensive lineman Kory Lichtensteiger to a futures contract.

      He was a 4th round selection by the Broncos in 2008 and played in 16 games (0 starts) as a rookie. A standout at Bowling Green, Lichtensteiger was named a finalist for the Rimington Trophy (nation’s top center) and was a first team All-MAC selection following his junior and senior seasons. He played his first two seasons at guard, where he received all-conference honors both seasons.

      He was cut by McDaniels and spent time on the Vikings practice squad this past season.

      Some Denver views I found surfing:

      I really liked him. He had short arms, but he is aggressive with a mean streak, he just didn't fit a man blocking scheme. He is more of a fit for a zone blocking scheme.
      he was a 4th round pick by Shanny, he was supposed to be our future C, but he was unimpressive in the pre season, plus we brought in Seth Olsen, and traded for Hoch so we already had 2 other backup interior linemen.

      Some contribute his bad play in the pre season due to us switching from a ZBS to a more man on man blocking scheme, but i think that we still run a a version of the zbs.
      Koy was ranked #149 on Scott Wrights final 2008 draft rankings and heres what Scott thought about the pick:

      In round four Denver chose Bowling Green center Kory Lichtensteiger, who looks like just the type of offensive lineman that the Broncos have had so much success with throughout the years. Lichtensteiger doesn't have great size (6-2, 298) or very long arms but he moves well, understands technique and angles and is extremely smart. With Tom Nalen (37) and Casey Wiegmann (35) getting up there in years and nearing the end of their careers Lichtensteiger will most likely be groomed to take over as the Broncos starting center in a year or two.
      and heres another draft profile i found:

      STRENGTHS

      Kory is a big solid kid with good overall athletic talent. He could play guard or center and is excellent when blocking for running plays. Kory does a solid job pass blocking and shows excellent leadership skills. He has no problems with the shotgun snap. Kory moves very well for a kid his size. He has quick feet and balance to go along with strong techniques and mental stamina. He does a good job when asked to go to the next level and block LB's. Kory is one of the few centers in this draft that can handle the bull rush. Kory is very smart -- his intelligence and his ability to make the players around him better are his greatest assets.

      NEEDS TO IMPROVE

      Kory lacks lateral agility, which causes him at times to lose his balance when pass blocking. He forgets his techniques and can get beat by quick DT's who work out of a 1-gap attack defense. This will be a problem at the next level which increases his LTI and may be the big reason he will be moved to the guard position. However, I have faith that Kory, with his intelligence and work ethic, will overcome this problem.

      TALENT BOARD ROUND 5

      Kory should be a hell of a guard/center for the team that drafts him. He can play guard also, but I think his impact position will be at center as soon as he understands how to handle those quick DT's who are in those 1 gap attack defense. Kory will have to work on his quickness and learn to slide and attack quicker off the snap to stop those types of players. If he is drafted by a team with a good offensive line coach, this should not be a problem. Kory will learn because he looks to me like he has an excellent work ethic. Kory also appears to me like he would be a very good fit in an offensive system like the Pittsburgh Steelers, Buffalo Bills, Cleveland Browns, Baltimore Ravens use with a power running game. Any team that likes to set the pass up with a strong running game would be a great fit for Kory's talent. This is a quality kid with good overall athletic talent; he should be a hell of an offensive lineman for the team that drafts him.
      I see him more likely as depth at center than anything but looks like he can play guard too. Not assuming he will start but he seems versatile and will know the terminology/scheme. I like that Shanny is already starting to address the line.
      Last edited by DiG; 01-15-2010, 08:06 AM.

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      • Liking that pickup

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        • QB-
          Resigning Campbell is a must in my eyes. I've read/heard a lot of this Sage Rosenfells nonsense, I dont agree w/ it at all. I understand Shanahan wants to bring in competition at all positions, but answer these questions...Would he come back to DC and take Campbell's job? HELL NO!!!! Is he the QB of the future? Well if he isnt surplanting JC as the starter THIS YEAR, I seriously doubt it. So what is he going to do, be a third stringer behind YALL boy Colt Brennan? Waste of money, I'd rather see Todd Collins come back.

          **DREAM SCENERIO**
          Sign Donovan McNabb (allowing Campbell to sit for a year or 2)
          I know Andy Reid said "McNabb is our quarterback next year", but something has to give in Philly and considering Big Andy got a contract extention this year Im assuming McNabb will be gone. If thats the case and he HITS THE FREE AGENT MARKET, I wouldnt mind seeing him taking snaps for us. Now hear me out b4 u go off people because I know you're probably ready to go off on me!!! For starters, McNabb can run the West Coast offense in his sleep. Not only that but having someone of his caliber makes us a better squad immediately, allowing Campbell to sit and watch someone whose skills he possesses to a certain extent. The icing on the cake would go to McNabb...he would get to tee-off on Philly and their fans twice a year, what player doesn't wanna stick it to a city where they aren't greatful...Priceless.

          RB/FB-
          CP- Cut (sad to say it...im the biggest CP fan out here)
          Betts- Good-fockin-riddance
          Gaither- Bring him back
          Mason- Bring him Back
          Rock- Bring him back
          Sellers- Bring him back and tell him to get his head outta his azz
          Williams- Cut

          FREE AGENT
          Jerious Norwood- Good fit for the zone blocking scheme. I think that HE thinks he's better than what he has produced in the league thus far, so his asking price may be kind of steep, but those are just assumptions. What i do know is with Sanahan's tutelage and Norwood's skillset, he SHOULD be a capable starter for a year or 2.


          **DREAM SCENARIO**
          Idk if you want to call it a dream, i dont think its far fetched at all, but trade CP for a 6th and 7th. He hasn't really burned too many bridges here like a Larry Johnson, nor is he completely over the hump so he has an ounce of value left. If we can get a pick or 2 for CP with all this depth in the draft then our front office made a great move.

          WR/TE-
          Moss/ Thomas/ Kelly/ Mitchell/ Cooley/ Davis/ Yoder- All keepers
          Randle-El- That happy foot azz bum has got to get the hell out of my city! What is he doing on the field? Ughhhh

          No dreams here, just get Randle-El out of town RIGHT NOW.

          OT-
          Levi- Resign for depth if nothing else
          Heyer- still on the fence about him, i guess he could be resigned for depth as well
          FA-
          Sign Rashad Butler from Houston...versatile, quick and could push for a backup Tackle/Gaurd spot

          **DREAM SCENARIO**
          See signature...Orrrr
          Sign Marcus McNeil or Jamaal Brown...Oh how I wish... Of course it's possible if they were to hit the market, but why would SD or NO let either player go?? Daaaaamn

          OG-
          If Heyer is resigned he can be used for depth but....I see Dockery bouncing back from a semi-down year. I want to see what Rinehart can do!

          C-
          Cory Raymer, oops i mean Casey Rabach- I appreciate how he has played since we got him but he is a backup at this point.
          Williams- Is he the future?? Perhaps, but i feel we need to upgrade somehow.

          **DREAM SCENARIO**
          In this case I'm reaching, but I remember reading that Samson Satele was in the dog house in Oakland. Ahhhh 4get it...nevermind

          DE-
          We are set as far as depth..BUT
          Hopefully Carter will keep up his beast mode next year, nuff said.
          I want to see Orakpo as a fulltime DE (slight foreshadowing) and flipped as a RE as well as a LE. He can cause havock ala Julius Peppers.
          I'd also like to see Jarmon get bigger so take Phillips starting spot
          Factor that is with Wilson getting more playing time. Throw in Renzo and our DEs looks great.

          DT- Ehhhh
          Haynesworth was "fat and outta shape" to quote BMitch...he is what he is. He takes on the double team which allows others to shine so ill take it, I wish it didn't cause us 100M, but I'll take it. Sidenote: STOP PUTTING HIM AT DE....soooooo glad Blatch is gone.
          Griffin- Cut him
          Kedrick- Re-sign
          Monty- Re-sign (needs more playing time)
          Renzo- Keeper

          **DREAM SCENARIO**
          Dont know if he has any value whatsoever, but it would be great to get a draft pick for Griffin. Like I said, the more picks the better.

          LBs-
          Rocky- Resign him TODAY!!!
          Orakpo- He did an above average job but he needs to play DE and DE only. Hell of a job playin 2 positions as a rookie but i don't need to see it again. If we have to have a DE play OLB let that player be.....
          Wilson- Animal evertime he gets on the field. Love his motor and he doesn't complain about getting dikked out of playin time. Resign him before he goes somewhere else and becomes a star.

          SIGN
          Thomas Howard from Oakland.
          He is going to waste in Oakland and its a shame because he is an animal. With Witten. Boss and Celeck in our division we need an OLB who can cover, Howard can do that w/o a doubt which will benifit someone I will mention later. I wouldn't mind signing him to a crazy deal, i think he is worth it.

          CB-
          Rogers- Byyyyye...unless we franchise him, I want him gone. Too cocky, too little production.

          Leaving us with Hall/Smoot/JT/Barnes

          We also signed Marcus McCauley who i loved in college. It will be interesting to see if he can pass JT and Barnes, hell maybe even Smoot, I wouldn't be surprised nor would I be upset.

          FREE AGENT
          Richard Marshall- Not a big time name but a hell of a player. Will tackle in the running game and is a level below being a top notch cover guy. Not to mention he is 4 years younger than Rogers. Give me Marshall over Rogers any day of the week.

          **DREAM SCENARIO**
          Trade Barnes for a pick , why the hell did we draft him? I don't care if it's a 7th round pick 3 years from now....what a wasted pick, at that point we didn't need a corner...WTF!!!!!!!! Oh well.

          Safety-
          Landry- Let me go on record saying "Landry is on his was to being a bust", with that said his career can still be salvaged. Blatch's philosophy must not have fit Landry's style of play because there is no way he should regress the way he has since his rookie season, well of course Blatch is gone (wheeew). I don't want to use the whole "he is a SS playing FS" arguement because with his athleticism and range the transition should not go this atrocious. I still don't think its time for him to go, put him in the box and let him do what he does best. Signing Thomas Howard would take the onus off Landry in coverage allowing him to play in space, read and disect lineman, QB and RBs 8 yards off the ball, not 15. He is what he is and thats a run stuffing, blitzing mad man....KEEP DIRTY 30 along w/ the rest of the safeties.

          This brings me to the draft.
          1. Eric Berry
          2. Charles Brown
          4. Sam Young
          5. John Estes
          7. Tindon Holliday

          I didn't factor in any trades or my "dream scenarios", however i did factor in the FA signings i want us to sign. That would leave our 2010 depth chart as follows.

          QB-
          Campbell/ Brennan/ Collins
          RB-
          Norwood/ Gaither/ Rock/ Mason
          FB-
          Sellers/ Williams
          WR-
          Moss/ Thomas/ Kelly/ Mitchell/ Holliday (WR/RB)
          TE-
          Cooley/ Davis/ Yoder
          LT-
          Brown/ Jones
          LG-
          Dockery/ Heyer?????
          C-
          Estes/Rabach
          RG-
          Rinehart/ Williams/ Butler
          RT-
          Young/ Butler/ Heyer
          RE-
          Orakpo (use him like peppers)
          DT-
          Big Al/ Kedrick/ Monty/ Renzo
          LE-
          Carter/ Jarmon/ Daniels (maybe even slide him down to DT)
          WLB-
          Rocky/ Henson
          MLB-
          Fletcher/ HB
          SLB-
          Howard/ Wilson
          LC-
          Hall/ Tryon or McCauley/ Barnes =(
          RC-
          Marshall/ Smoot
          Nickle Back-
          Tryon or McCauley
          FS-
          Berry/ Moore
          SS-
          Landry/ Horton/ Doughty
          RIP Sean Taylor....

          MarkieMark's dream 2010 Redskins mock: Updated 4/9
          TRAAAADE DOOOOWN
          Round 1- OT Brian Bulaga- Iowa
          Round 4- OT Sam Young- Notre Damn
          Round 5- C John Estes- Hawaii
          Round 7- RB/WR/KR/PR Trindon Holliday- LSU

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          • Originally posted by DreadedDatSkinsFan View Post
            QB-
            Resigning Campbell is a must in my eyes. I've read/heard a lot of this Sage Rosenfells nonsense, I dont agree w/ it at all. I understand Shanahan wants to bring in competition at all positions, but answer these questions...Would he come back to DC and take Campbell's job? HELL NO!!!! Is he the QB of the future? Well if he isnt surplanting JC as the starter THIS YEAR, I seriously doubt it. So what is he going to do, be a third stringer behind YALL boy Colt Brennan? Waste of money, I'd rather see Todd Collins come back.

            **DREAM SCENERIO**
            Sign Donovan McNabb (allowing Campbell to sit for a year or 2)
            I know Andy Reid said "McNabb is our quarterback next year", but something has to give in Philly and considering Big Andy got a contract extention this year Im assuming McNabb will be gone. If thats the case and he HITS THE FREE AGENT MARKET, I wouldnt mind seeing him taking snaps for us. Now hear me out b4 u go off people because I know you're probably ready to go off on me!!! For starters, McNabb can run the West Coast offense in his sleep. Not only that but having someone of his caliber makes us a better squad immediately, allowing Campbell to sit and watch someone whose skills he possesses to a certain extent. The icing on the cake would go to McNabb...he would get to tee-off on Philly and their fans twice a year, what player doesn't wanna stick it to a city where they aren't greatful...Priceless.

            RB/FB-
            CP- Cut (sad to say it...im the biggest CP fan out here)
            Betts- Good-fockin-riddance
            Gaither- Bring him back
            Mason- Bring him Back
            Rock- Bring him back
            Sellers- Bring him back and tell him to get his head outta his azz
            Williams- Cut

            FREE AGENT
            Jerious Norwood- Good fit for the zone blocking scheme. I think that HE thinks he's better than what he has produced in the league thus far, so his asking price may be kind of steep, but those are just assumptions. What i do know is with Sanahan's tutelage and Norwood's skillset, he SHOULD be a capable starter for a year or 2.


            **DREAM SCENARIO**
            Idk if you want to call it a dream, i dont think its far fetched at all, but trade CP for a 6th and 7th. He hasn't really burned too many bridges here like a Larry Johnson, nor is he completely over the hump so he has an ounce of value left. If we can get a pick or 2 for CP with all this depth in the draft then our front office made a great move.

            WR/TE-
            Moss/ Thomas/ Kelly/ Mitchell/ Cooley/ Davis/ Yoder- All keepers
            Randle-El- That happy foot azz bum has got to get the hell out of my city! What is he doing on the field? Ughhhh

            No dreams here, just get Randle-El out of town RIGHT NOW.

            OT-
            Levi- Resign for depth if nothing else
            Heyer- still on the fence about him, i guess he could be resigned for depth as well
            FA-
            Sign Rashad Butler from Houston...versatile, quick and could push for a backup Tackle/Gaurd spot

            **DREAM SCENARIO**
            See signature...Orrrr
            Sign Marcus McNeil or Jamaal Brown...Oh how I wish... Of course it's possible if they were to hit the market, but why would SD or NO let either player go?? Daaaaamn

            OG-
            If Heyer is resigned he can be used for depth but....I see Dockery bouncing back from a semi-down year. I want to see what Rinehart can do!

            C-
            Cory Raymer, oops i mean Casey Rabach- I appreciate how he has played since we got him but he is a backup at this point.
            Williams- Is he the future?? Perhaps, but i feel we need to upgrade somehow.

            **DREAM SCENARIO**
            In this case I'm reaching, but I remember reading that Samson Satele was in the dog house in Oakland. Ahhhh 4get it...nevermind

            DE-
            We are set as far as depth..BUT
            Hopefully Carter will keep up his beast mode next year, nuff said.
            I want to see Orakpo as a fulltime DE (slight foreshadowing) and flipped as a RE as well as a LE. He can cause havock ala Julius Peppers.
            I'd also like to see Jarmon get bigger so take Phillips starting spot
            Factor that is with Wilson getting more playing time. Throw in Renzo and our DEs looks great.

            DT- Ehhhh
            Haynesworth was "fat and outta shape" to quote BMitch...he is what he is. He takes on the double team which allows others to shine so ill take it, I wish it didn't cause us 100M, but I'll take it. Sidenote: STOP PUTTING HIM AT DE....soooooo glad Blatch is gone.
            Griffin- Cut him
            Kedrick- Re-sign
            Monty- Re-sign (needs more playing time)
            Renzo- Keeper

            **DREAM SCENARIO**
            Dont know if he has any value whatsoever, but it would be great to get a draft pick for Griffin. Like I said, the more picks the better.

            LBs-
            Rocky- Resign him TODAY!!!
            Orakpo- He did an above average job but he needs to play DE and DE only. Hell of a job playin 2 positions as a rookie but i don't need to see it again. If we have to have a DE play OLB let that player be.....
            Wilson- Animal evertime he gets on the field. Love his motor and he doesn't complain about getting dikked out of playin time. Resign him before he goes somewhere else and becomes a star.

            SIGN
            Thomas Howard from Oakland.
            He is going to waste in Oakland and its a shame because he is an animal. With Witten. Boss and Celeck in our division we need an OLB who can cover, Howard can do that w/o a doubt which will benifit someone I will mention later. I wouldn't mind signing him to a crazy deal, i think he is worth it.

            CB-
            Rogers- Byyyyye...unless we franchise him, I want him gone. Too cocky, too little production.

            Leaving us with Hall/Smoot/JT/Barnes

            We also signed Marcus McCauley who i loved in college. It will be interesting to see if he can pass JT and Barnes, hell maybe even Smoot, I wouldn't be surprised nor would I be upset.

            FREE AGENT
            Richard Marshall- Not a big time name but a hell of a player. Will tackle in the running game and is a level below being a top notch cover guy. Not to mention he is 4 years younger than Rogers. Give me Marshall over Rogers any day of the week.

            **DREAM SCENARIO**
            Trade Barnes for a pick , why the hell did we draft him? I don't care if it's a 7th round pick 3 years from now....what a wasted pick, at that point we didn't need a corner...WTF!!!!!!!! Oh well.

            Safety-
            Landry- Let me go on record saying "Landry is on his was to being a bust", with that said his career can still be salvaged. Blatch's philosophy must not have fit Landry's style of play because there is no way he should regress the way he has since his rookie season, well of course Blatch is gone (wheeew). I don't want to use the whole "he is a SS playing FS" arguement because with his athleticism and range the transition should not go this atrocious. I still don't think its time for him to go, put him in the box and let him do what he does best. Signing Thomas Howard would take the onus off Landry in coverage allowing him to play in space, read and disect lineman, QB and RBs 8 yards off the ball, not 15. He is what he is and thats a run stuffing, blitzing mad man....KEEP DIRTY 30 along w/ the rest of the safeties.

            This brings me to the draft.
            1. Eric Berry
            2. Charles Brown
            4. Sam Young
            5. John Estes
            7. Tindon Holliday

            I didn't factor in any trades or my "dream scenarios", however i did factor in the FA signings i want us to sign. That would leave our 2010 depth chart as follows.

            QB-
            Campbell/ Brennan/ Collins
            RB-
            Norwood/ Gaither/ Rock/ Mason
            FB-
            Sellers/ Williams
            WR-
            Moss/ Thomas/ Kelly/ Mitchell/ Holliday (WR/RB)
            TE-
            Cooley/ Davis/ Yoder
            LT-
            Brown/ Jones
            LG-
            Dockery/ Heyer?????
            C-
            Estes/Rabach
            RG-
            Rinehart/ Williams/ Butler
            RT-
            Young/ Butler/ Heyer
            RE-
            Orakpo (use him like peppers)
            DT-
            Big Al/ Kedrick/ Monty/ Renzo
            LE-
            Carter/ Jarmon/ Daniels (maybe even slide him down to DT)
            WLB-
            Rocky/ Henson
            MLB-
            Fletcher/ HB
            SLB-
            Howard/ Wilson
            LC-
            Hall/ Tryon or McCauley/ Barnes =(
            RC-
            Marshall/ Smoot
            Nickle Back-
            Tryon or McCauley
            FS-
            Berry/ Moore
            SS-
            Landry/ Horton/ Doughty




            The Mcnabb idea isnt bad at all .................keeping JC for two years is a waste how ever sinc he would be 31.




            Draft: A QB in our first round pick.

            Trade Laron or Carter and get a 2nd rounder.


            Draft Jason Fox and another good OT with our 2 picks.


            franchise QB
            Two starting calibar OT's.

            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^and where good to go.


            Like my idea?. O and sign terrel Owens too a two year deal to force our young wideouts to fight for that postion. I mean if T.O so called still doesnt have it than why not let our young, WR's prove us wrong. T.O in my view is a huge huge upgrade and great shape. Doesnt sound bad when you bring more weapons and competions to a team.
            Last edited by snyder101; 01-16-2010, 04:35 AM.

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            • especially if mcnabb and t.o. get back together.. in DC though :) jizz my paaants.


              RIP, Sean Taylor.

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              • Originally posted by snyder101 View Post
                Trade Laron or Carter and get a 2nd rounder.


                Draft Jason Fox and another good OT with our 2 picks.


                franchise QB
                Two starting calibar OT's.

                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^and where good to go.
                a couple flaws in your plan - fox is being way overrated. he has poor footwork and is bad in the run game which is crucial in shannys offense. no one is giving up a 2nd round for carter. the bust rate of drafting OTs in rd 2 is twice as high as round 1.

                i am not a campbell supporter. never have been and dont want him to be our qb for the future. my issue is less with taking a qb and more with the qbs available. clausen is the better talent than bradford but i still dont believe either are worthy of a top 10 pick. they are more like alex smith/bradyquinn type qbs and less like matt ryan/rivers/carson palmer.

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                • Originally posted by Dirty Thirty View Post
                  a couple flaws in your plan - fox is being way overrated. he has poor footwork and is bad in the run game which is crucial in shannys offense. no one is giving up a 2nd round for carter. the bust rate of drafting OTs in rd 2 is twice as high as round 1.
                  i am not a campbell supporter. never have been and dont want him to be our qb for the future. my issue is less with taking a qb and more with the qbs available. clausen is the better talent than bradford but i still dont believe either are worthy of a top 10 pick. they are more like alex smith/bradyquinn type qbs and less like matt ryan/rivers/carson palmer.
                  2nd round thing thats not really true. Giants dont have any first rounders nor do NE nor does Packers or Bucs.


                  But I believe you on not supporting JC ......but you gonna have to believe this if you draft a QB with a bad QB staff your never gonna do good. The guys you named had bad coaches the postive ones you named are the ones who had good coaches. Shanny is 3-0 on making good QB's, Cutler,Elway, Grisese, (Plummer doesnt count he was a Arizona).
                  We should give them a chance becauses whos too say we are in the postion to draft a QB next year?.

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                  • Originally posted by snyder101 View Post
                    2nd round thing thats not really true. Giants dont have any first rounders nor do NE nor does Packers or Bucs.


                    But I believe you on not supporting JC ......but you gonna have to believe this if you draft a QB with a bad QB staff your never gonna do good. The guys you named had bad coaches the postive ones you named are the ones who had good coaches. Shanny is 3-0 on making good QB's, Cutler,Elway, Grisese, (Plummer doesnt count he was a Arizona).
                    We should give them a chance becauses whos too say we are in the postion to draft a QB next year?.
                    statistically in the last 25 years it is absolutely true that the bust rate is 2x higher in rd2 olineman than in olineman drafted in rd1. i have it in a spreadsheet that I can send you. in the last 25 years 20% of olineman drafted in the first round have busted after 2 years whereas 40% of 2nd round olineman are not starters after 2 years. also, 40% of rd1 olineman are probowlers vs only 12% of 2nd rounders.

                    im with you on the qb coaching. its a huge part of what makes a qb but so is having a strong oline as well as sorrounding offensive weapons. i also dont believe that you can include cutler in shannys "success" qbs. he had two pretty good years with shanny statistically but he went 7-9 in 2007 and 8-8 in 2008 and we know what hes done in chicago so far. with that said, if shanny beleives that clausen/bradford are top 5 picks and can lead us to a super bowl than i will trust his decision. hes got the history to back it up. but i dont believe that either are right now.

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                    • Originally posted by Dirty Thirty View Post
                      statistically in the last 25 years it is absolutely true that the bust rate is 2x higher in rd2 olineman than in olineman drafted in rd1. i have it in a spreadsheet that I can send you. in the last 25 years 20% of olineman drafted in the first round have busted after 2 years whereas 40% of 2nd round olineman are not starters after 2 years. also, 40% of rd1 olineman are probowlers vs only 12% of 2nd rounders.

                      im with you on the qb coaching. its a huge part of what makes a qb but so is having a strong oline as well as sorrounding offensive weapons. i also dont believe that you can include cutler in shannys "success" qbs. he had two pretty good years with shanny statistically but he went 7-9 in 2007 and 8-8 in 2008 and we know what hes done in chicago so far. with that said, if shanny beleives that clausen/bradford are top 5 picks and can lead us to a super bowl than i will trust his decision. hes got the history to back it up. but i dont believe that either are right now.

                      The best thing too do is trade back if we dont go QB. We can pick up more guys and develop them but I herd Colt Mccoy is a guy Shanny wouldnt mind . As for RB the skins should look too pick up Reggie Bush since I think he fits the WCO zone block scheme and has alot of speed.

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                      • Originally posted by snyder101 View Post
                        The best thing too do is trade back if we dont go QB. We can pick up more guys and develop them but I herd Colt Mccoy is a guy Shanny wouldnt mind . As for RB the skins should look too pick up Reggie Bush since I think he fits the WCO zone block scheme and has alot of speed.
                        if the saints cut him absolutely. with that performance yesterday though well see what the saints end up doing. a trade back would be great but realistically you dont often see a lot of trades in the top 5 because of the $$ your picks cost. if they somehow get a rookie scale in place in time for this year (highly doubt it) than it would make things easier probably.

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                        • I wouldn't mind Bush but he doesn't fit the traditional Shanahan mold of RB's in the past...don't see it happening now.

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                          • O.T. Jason Fox "is being way overrated" is a different voice ive heard(not knocking you D30 'cause i havent seen him play).

                            Walterfootball.com has us selecting him in round 2 alot as they reckon he fits Shanny's zone blocking scheme and DraftInsiders scout report on Fox says he is athletic.

                            Question i will ask is, if we look at Tackle in round 2 who besides Fox will be there?

                            Charles Brown(usc) likely gone in round 1,Barksdale(lsu) not yet declared and likely a first rounder,gabe Carimi(wisconsin) not yet declared.
                            The few mocks ive seen are full of d.e.'s/d.t's/r.b's/corners in round 2.

                            C'mon draftniks what is going to be out there in round 2 for Tackles?

                            Missed out on alex Gibbs and Dennison as coaches but if we pick up jeff Jagozinski he was at boston college and they have 2 athletic linemen,Center matt Tennant and Left Tackle Castonzo(junior-not yet declared).
                            Just need to pick up some third rounders.

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                            • i think okung, davis, campbell, bulaga, trent williams, and iupati will go ahead of charles brown so it is reasonable to think he could be there in rd2. i like calloway more than fox even though calloway is primarily a rt prospect. id also take a guy like vladimir ducasse, asamoah, tennant or pouncey who looks like a franchise g/c over fox. small school guys like tony washington and veldheer could really impress at the combine and could see a rise similar to sebastian vollmer did last year when he was drafted rd 2 by the pats.

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                              • Originally posted by Dirty Thirty View Post
                                if the saints cut him absolutely. with that performance yesterday though well see what the saints end up doing. a trade back would be great but realistically you dont often see a lot of trades in the top 5 because of the $$ your picks cost. if they somehow get a rookie scale in place in time for this year (highly doubt it) than it would make things easier probably.
                                If we get bush than skins need a 2nd down RB ...............I guess Mason???.

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