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  • Just like the lions game last year,we lose to the worst in the nfl.

    So where does that leave the skins?

    Haslett is taking the defense in the wrong direction BUT far too many players either made STOOPID mistakes or FAILED to make a play.

    The iggles will feast on us.
    THEN it will get brutal.
    Season over.

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    • At least we got a win off Dallas before the season was over.

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      • 16-14 when i left to a family outting.... wtf happend.

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        • lol we gave up 30 to the rams. couldnt convert in the redzone and our defense is mostly soft other than a couple players. we play big cushions and just let teams slowly work the field with ease.

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          • The NFC East is hoooooorible. LOL.

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            • Here's my Skins rant, and yeah no paragraphs or line breaks damnit!

              I'm not going to lie I'm pretty fcking pissed right now. Look I know Shanny's a great coach, but he is so damn hard headed. He goes on these massive ego trips to the detriment of the team. It's like we've done a complete 180 in one year. One extreme to another. We went from having a head coach with no ego who let his players walk all over him and disrespect him, to a coach who has such a massive ego and it’s his way no matter what. I mean Haslett deserves a share in the blame but this switch to the 34 has been embarrassing. Ok look I understand that Shanny and Haslett have secure jobs for a while but they are absolutely neglecting the present. I understand that you want to build for the future, and I wouldn’t mind multiple 34 looks, but to be doing it full time like we have is a flat out joke. It’s like they don’t care about this year all they care about is building their system for the future. The fact is we don’t have the personnel to run a 3-4. You have to find some balance between installing for the future and staying competitive for the present. I never expected us to be in the playoffs, but I did expect us to win at least 7 games with our roster. Shanny might not care about this year and great if we get a high pick, but this fan base deserves better results. I don’t get it we have been a top 10 defense in the NFL the past 4 or 5 seasons. Last year we were the 4th ranked defense in the NFL with basically the same personnel. Yet somehow we are now the last ranked defense in the NFL and this is despite Landry and Deangelo Hall playing at higher levels than they ever have for us. I’ve tried picking out certain guys who have been horrible to give us the poor results we have had, but really I can’t pick out anyone. Doughty wasn’t even that bad. The point is it isn’t the failure of the players necessarily, it’s the failure of the system. It is outrageous how you can change up an entire defense when not a single player fit’s the system. Our D-line of Carriker/Golston/Kemo, is horrific. That is the kind of lineup which on a real team would be a nice rotational group off the bench. These guys are getting blocked by one blocker which is a joke in a 34. When Haynesworth is there he just shoots a gap and basically leaves a huge hole where he should be clogging blocks. Then comes to our linebackers. None of our backers other than Orakpo are fit for a 34 and even Orakpo is still a work in process when he’s not rushing the passer. Lorenzo Alexander and Andre Carter God bless their souls for playing hard, but they aren’t meant to play in space. Even London Fletcher and McIntosh are contributing to our failures. They still make plays but they simply aren’t the thumpers you need from a 34 ILB especially when your D-line sucks and you have no protection. It’s so sad to see Fletcher getting engulfed by double team blocks from O-lineman. He’s never been hurt in his career yet I fear this year may be the first. Lastly the secondary, we have a bunch of skilled playmakers but we suck when a play is extended. The lack of pass rush from the 34 is really quite troubling. This defense reminds me of the 05 Ravens who went 6-10 and we started to question if Ray Lewis was washed up. We simply don’t have the pieces in tact. I don’t get it, if it aint broke why fix it. In previous seasons we’ve always had a good defense but it was our lack of big plays on offense that has held us back. Figures that now that we finally have a playmaking QB, our defense blows. I can understand the Texans running all over us although 497 yards passing to an opposing QB is never acceptable, but 30 points to the Rams with a rookie QB and missing their only relevant offensive player in Steven Jackson, what the hell is that. That’s like Alabama letting UVA score 40 on them. The sad thing is how well our players fit into a traditional 43 defense. I don't even think our Dallas performance was as impressive as some people think. If anything I think that was Dallas just playing way too jumpy. They played conservative and forced plays instead of letting them develop.I mentioned how piss poor our D-line is but a 43 line of Andre Cater/Albert Haynesworth/Kedric Golston/Phillip Daniels and Orakpo on pass downs is damn good. London Fletcher and Rocky McIntosh are pro bowl caliber players at their respective positions yet as 34 ILB’s are simply mediocre and unable to take on multiple blocks. I’m really tired of this crap. Oh and one last point it sickens me to see the media criticize Portis for his slide and say that his fear of contact is a tone setter for the team. Are you fcking kidding me? This is the same Portis who lit up Demarcus Ware and Mario Williams in pass protection. The guy is not afraid of contact. The fact is that on that play Portis did the smart thing. He already got 20+ yards on the run and he saw 3 guys coming up on him. Lets be honest even Portis knows that he doesn’t have the speed anymore to break away. Is it really worth getting sandwiched for an extra 3 yards especially given his injury history and the teams lack of depth at the position. Furthermore lets not forget Santana Moss had just given up 7 points by getting the ball knocked away from behind. Portis knew the guy behind him was coming faster than he can run so he didn’t risk the turnover. The sad part is that this slide seems to be the reason for his 2nd half benching. I’m sorry but Portis had 46 yards on 6 carries. If he’s feeling that good you have to keep feeding him. Games like that are what build confidence and rhythm, we just about killed that. You know what Torrain did do well but you don’t bench your #1 back when he’s running well for the first time all season. And again hearing Shanny talk about the situation makes me want to cut his throat. How can he say with a straight face that his plan has always been to make CP the 3rd down back and have Torrain in on first down because of his explosion. If he was so fcking high on Torrain why the hell was he on the practice squad behind Larry Johnson and Keiland Williams? Another comment that really makes you wonder where Shanny’s head is. And for Shanny’s reasoning all of Portis’s runs were on first and second down. And I laugh at him saying that he isn’t benching Portis but wanted to give him some breaks between his runs. He had 7 fcking carries! He had one carry after the first quarter which he ripped I take huge issue to this and I’m not even a massive Portis fan. Maybe I’m overreacting after 3 games, but I don’t like what I’m seeing so far especially from the coaching staff. Don’t get me started on Devin Thomas not seeing a single snap at WR even though Anthony Armstrong was out and Joey Galloway and Roydell Williams have like 1 catch each this year.
              Last edited by SeanTaylorRIP; 09-28-2010, 02:08 PM.

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              • i havent read it all yet strip and i promise i will but i will say that our nickle formations and dime packages are giving up a lot more big plays than our base 3-4. with that said, i obviously agree the right pieces arent there for a successful 3-4.

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                • Wow strip I almost **** a brick when I saw that huge block of text lol.

                  I agree the 34 doesn't fit these guys but whatever, we weren't going to compete this year anyway.

                  They are going to do a lot more housecleaning next offseason as well. The cold hard fact is that it is going to take awhile to overcome the years and years of damage done to the team by Snyder/Cerrato.

                  I'm ready for it to be next year already.

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                  • I agree with what you had to say in regards to the 34 d. 34 looks mixed in would have been ideal but, it is how it is... hopefully haynesworth changes his attitude or we trade for somebody who fits better.

                    I wasn't totally onboard with mcnabb for a 2nd but after watching the last few games, it's amazing how much better he is than cambell, i guess i just used to poor qb play.

                    I don't think anyone will disagree with me when i say we are a team on the rise and despite the horrific let down at STL this is a team that's only going to get better.

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                    • The players have not brought into the 3-4 totally from the comments i have heard from them so its going to get painful for a while.

                      What p*sses me off is haslett saying in the off-season that they are NOT going to use andre carter like he was used in san fran in the 3-4 and look what has happened to him.(can you see vick running by him this weekend?)

                      Carter/golston/haynesworth/kemo/rocky are just not good fits here BUT i dont think our secondary is that good in a 3-4 OR a 4-3.
                      Rogers,hall need to be upgraded and a free safety brought in.
                      Moore/doughty and horton are fine for depth/rotation.

                      Its gonna take years for it to be fixed BUT haslett has never improved a defense when at pittsburgh or st. louis and if you look at shanny's track record he fires def co's FAST.

                      McNabb has not signed a long term contract,if we are re-building why would he want to?
                      The skins franchise tag him and he moves on to a better team.
                      One question for all of you,if next year a lock-out looms large(no c.b.a.) why would owners want to sign any free agents if they are not going to play a full season?
                      Cant reload with just the draft.

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                      • Yeah, switching to the 3-4 was the dumbest thing the Redskins did this offseason. The defense has has so many solid 4-3 players like London Fletcher, Andre Carter, Albert Haynesworth and Brian Orakpo that it almost seems like a crime that they are being wasted in a 3-4 scheme that exposes their deficiencies and minimizes their strengths.

                        Honestly, if they still ran the 4-3 with Haynesworth at DT, and Carter/Orakpo as DEs, and Fletcher as MLB, I think the Skins have a top 10 defense this year and win the division. The switch to the 3-4 is single-handedly going to ruin their playoff hopes for 2010, in my opinion.

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                        • yea boyyysss!!!! 2-0 in the division. no one is running away with this division. definitely wasnt pretty today but damn glad we pulled it out. ill post full game thoughts tomorrow.

                          one things for sure. if heyer has to start another game this year i may shoot myself.

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                          • As much as I don't like the new 3-4, at least we are finally coming up with some turnovers. **** Carlos Rogers.


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                            • Ugly win but I'll take it. And for the love of god can we please....CUT HEYER.

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                              • Originally posted by 2 Live Crew View Post
                                Ugly win but I'll take it. And for the love of god can we please....CUT HEYER.
                                Might as well cut that POS Heyer even with Trent Williams out. Move Jamaal to LT and take Dockery's ass off the bench and put him at RT. Or put him at RG and move Hicks to RT.

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