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    • AC Milan 2 - 0 Liverpool
      Kaka 19'
      Gilardino 75'

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      • Crouch will cause trouble if they can get him the ball

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        Kaka 10'
        Crouch 35'
        Gerrard 45'
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        • Originally posted by TCU View Post
          AC Milan 2 - 0 Liverpool
          Kaka 19'
          Gilardino 75'
          I sure hope it's not gonna happen. Milan supporters are annoying as hell, and not to mention they have the most annoying coach and president.
          If they win I will see them cheering on TV for at least 5 consecutives days. Please no.
          They were lucky during the Champions League, because they faced teams with bad defense (and they faced Manchester when they were affected by a lot of injuries). During the Serie A, Milan was dominated by Inter and Roma, if they hadn't got Ronaldo in January they could have finished the season with like 50 points less than Inter (who now has 33 more than them). In Italy they faced a lot of strong defenses and defensive-mind coaches and they couldn't be able to win. That's because Kaką is their only legit offensive weapon. Inzaghi is old and not a threat anymore, he can still score but he can't worry a good defender anymore. Gilardino can't score to save his life, if you look at his goals during the season he scored when his team was already winning, he never scored a goal which decided the game. The guy who can score is Ronaldo, but he can't play in the CL.

          They are lucky again for today because Liverpool misses the type of forwards to take advantage of the anging Milan defense. Crouch could be a problem for them, but Kuyt is mediocre. The key of the game for Liverpool is Steven Gerrard. If he can take some shots from long distance he can score, because Dida is not playing good, and he has to use his passing abilities to take advantage of Crouch height.

          Look at the highlights of this game

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WYTjFLZWMM

          That's what happend when they faced a strong defense and a good offensive tandem. They got destroyed. They scored their last 2 goals only because Materazzi was ejected from the game.


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          • Originally posted by Modano View Post
            I sure hope it's not gonna happen. Milan supporters are annoying as hell, and not to mention they have the most annoying coach and president.
            If they win I will see them cheering on TV for at least 5 consecutives days. Please no.
            They were lucky during the Champions League, because they faced teams with bad defense (and they faced Manchester when they were affected by a lot of injuries). During the Serie A, Milan was dominated by Inter and Roma, if they hadn't got Ronaldo in January they could have finished the season with like 50 points less than Inter (who now has 33 more than them). In Italy they faced a lot of strong defenses and defensive-mind coaches and they couldn't be able to win. That's because Kaką is their only legit offensive weapon. Inzaghi is old and not a threat anymore, he can still score but he can't worry a good defender anymore. Gilardino can't score to save his life, if you look at his goals during the season he scored when his team was already winning, he never scored a goal which decided the game. The guy who can score is Ronaldo, but he can't play in the CL.

            They are lucky again for today because Liverpool misses the type of forwards to take advantage of the anging Milan defense. Crouch could be a problem for them, but Kuyt is mediocre. The key of the game for Liverpool is Steven Gerrard. If he can take some shots from long distance he can score, because Dida is not playing good, and he has to use his passing abilities to take advantage of Crouch height.

            Look at the highlights of this game

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WYTjFLZWMM

            That's what happend when they faced a strong defense and a good offensive tandem. They got destroyed. They scored their last 2 goals only because Materazzi was ejected from the game.
            I must admit I too have been very surprised by Milans champions league performance. As you said they've been very poor in Serie A and this is their swansong as far as I'm concerned because they are just too old.
            Gilardino is a lot better than your giving him credit for. At Parma he was nothing short of amazing, scoring 23 goals in 2 consectutive seasons. He basically kept them up single handilly. In fact he was probably our best ever striker (which is a feat given they've had Adriano, Mutu, Di Vaio, Crespo, Chiesa, Zola and Asprilla). I know he played quite to the same level at Milan but is still a excellent striker.

            Just out of interest who do you support? I've long been a enthusiast of Italian football (although in all honesty that interest is waning as the league regresses).
            Originally posted by nobodyinparticular
            #1--Russell I can't be too disappointed in this pick because he is, realistically, a huge upgrade (in the same way that the Great Wall of China would be a huge upgrade over the fence in my backyard) over Andrew Walter.

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            • Originally posted by AdrianWilson12 View Post
              I must admit I too have been very surprised by Milans champions league performance. As you said they've been very poor in Serie A and this is their swansong as far as I'm concerned because they are just too old.
              Gilardino is a lot better than your giving him credit for. At Parma he was nothing short of amazing, scoring 23 goals in 2 consectutive seasons. He basically kept them up single handilly. In fact he was probably our best ever striker (which is a feat given they've had Adriano, Mutu, Di Vaio, Crespo, Chiesa, Zola and Asprilla). I know he played quite to the same level at Milan but is still a excellent striker.

              Just out of interest who do you support? I've long been a enthusiast of Italian football (although in all honesty that interest is waning as the league regresses).
              I don't agree on Gilardino and I'll tell you why.
              You're right, playing for Parma he was very good. But why he doesn't have the same success when he play with Italy? Why, while playing with Milan, he can't score as much as he did with Parma? You can say that's because of the down-year by Milan, but so why Ronaldo has scored a lot of goals in a limited amount of time? Gilardino was staying on the bench and Ronaldo was dominating.
              That's because Gilardino is not an amazing player. He's good, no doubt, but he was a little of a bust for Milan. And if you look at Parma what do you find out? That both Budan and Giuseppe Rossi are scoring a lot. That's because they are the only offensive threats of the team, and that was the same case for Gilardino. In a team with less talent he can excel (as are doing Budan and Rossi), in a team with great talent he has shown, the past two years, that he's not a great option on offense, good to start from the bench, but not to start every game.
              And the proofs of this are in the interest Milan has shown on Eto'o. That's a very good chance that Eto'o will play for Milan next year, along with Ronaldo. Gilardino will stay on the bench.
              Infact, if you look at his goals, they all came when his team was winning, he doesn't score meaningful goals, that's the reason why Milan payed a lot to bring back Ronaldo to Italy and are going to offer a ton of Money to Barcelona for Eto'o.

              Btw, I'm not very intersted anymore in italian soccer. I was an Inter supporter, but the situation of soccer in Italy is depressing. I don't like the media, I don't like all the scandals. Right now soccer has became, for me, annoying. Everytime there are troubles in the stadium. And every sunday and every morning you see sports network showing the same old polemics.
              American sports are way better and way more competitive.


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              • Originally posted by Modano View Post
                I don't agree on Gilardino and I'll tell you why.
                You're right, playing for Parma he was very good. But why he doesn't have the same success when he play with Italy? Why, while playing with Milan, he can't score as much as he did with Parma? You can say that's because of the down-year by Milan, but so why Ronaldo has scored a lot of goals in a limited amount of time? Gilardino was staying on the bench and Ronaldo was dominating.
                That's because Gilardino is not an amazing player. He's good, no doubt, but he was a little of a bust for Milan. And if you look at Parma what do you find out? That both Budan and Giuseppe Rossi are scoring a lot. That's because they are the only offensive threats of the team, and that was the same case for Gilardino. In a team with less talent he can excel (as are doing Budan and Rossi), in a team with great talent he has shown, the past two years, that he's not a great option on offense, good to start from the bench, but not to start every game.
                And the proofs of this are in the interest Milan has shown on Eto'o. That's a very good chance that Eto'o will play for Milan next year, along with Ronaldo. Gilardino will stay on the bench.
                Infact, if you look at his goals, they all came when his team was winning, he doesn't score meaningful goals, that's the reason why Milan payed a lot to bring back Ronaldo to Italy and are going to offer a ton of Money to Barcelona for Eto'o.

                Btw, I'm not very intersted anymore in italian soccer. I was an Inter supporter, but the situation of soccer in Italy is depressing. I don't like the media, I don't like all the scandals. Right now soccer has became, for me, annoying. Everytime there are troubles in the stadium. And every sunday and every morning you see sports network showing the same old polemics.
                American sports are way better and way more competitive.
                I don't buy the argument that Gilardino was bound to score because Parma don't have any other good attacking talent. That is even more credit to him, as he is scoring when he is the sole focus of the other team and he has all the pressure on him. I don't think Gilardino is special in any department, but he does have great antipication and positioning. You look at other teams of Parma's level and they rarely have such high scoreres. In fact Lucarelli, Suazo and Quagliarella are the only 3 I can think of off the top of my head. Rossi and Budan are scoring loads because the team is in form under Ranieri and should stay up.

                Milan show interest in Eto'o but that is as much that Inzaghi and Ronaldo are way above 30 and injury prone. I've just heard that Eto'o has said that he is staying, so it is unlikely anything is going to happen in that department.

                Wow, for a Inter fan to say he's lost interest in Italian football is something. They have been so dominant this year, that I'd have thought it would rekindle your interest. It certainly explains why you dislike Milan fans, especially after all those years of them getting trophys and you not having success.

                To me I think Italian football has gradually declined starting from the collapse of Fiorentina, Parma and Lazio, and to a lesser extent Roma. That year when you had Zidane go to Juventus and all that crazy money was the peak. Since the moneys gone, so has the quality. Obviously the low point being the match fixing scandle, but the Catania court case was dreadful too. Now its miles away from Spain and England and about as good as France now.
                Originally posted by nobodyinparticular
                #1--Russell I can't be too disappointed in this pick because he is, realistically, a huge upgrade (in the same way that the Great Wall of China would be a huge upgrade over the fence in my backyard) over Andrew Walter.

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                • Originally posted by AdrianWilson12 View Post
                  I don't buy the argument that Gilardino was bound to score because Parma don't have any other good attacking talent. That is even more credit to him, as he is scoring when he is the sole focus of the other team and he has all the pressure on him. I don't think Gilardino is special in any department, but he does have great antipication and positioning. You look at other teams of Parma's level and they rarely have such high scoreres. In fact Lucarelli, Suazo and Quagliarella are the only 3 I can think of off the top of my head. Rossi and Budan are scoring loads because the team is in form under Ranieri and should stay up.

                  Milan show interest in Eto'o but that is as much that Inzaghi and Ronaldo are way above 30 and injury prone. I've just heard that Eto'o has said that he is staying, so it is unlikely anything is going to happen in that department.

                  Wow, for a Inter fan to say he's lost interest in Italian football is something. They have been so dominant this year, that I'd have thought it would rekindle your interest. It certainly explains why you dislike Milan fans, especially after all those years of them getting trophys and you not having success.

                  To me I think Italian football has gradually declined starting from the collapse of Fiorentina, Parma and Lazio, and to a lesser extent Roma. That year when you had Zidane go to Juventus and all that crazy money was the peak. Since the moneys gone, so has the quality. Obviously the low point being the match fixing scandle, but the Catania court case was dreadful too. Now its miles away from Spain and England and about as good as France now.
                  1. Agree to disagree on Gilardino ;)

                  2. I've actually watched every game Inter played this past season, but without the same emotion I watch a game played by the Dallas Cowboys. I'm happy they won, but I'm not a huge fan anymore.

                  3. Milan has a very annoying organisation. Lancellotti is the type of coach and person I would punch in the face. He's so superb! Galliani was and is a bad thing for italian soccer. He's an ass, and he has killed many minor teams with his policy. And Berlusconi is probably the most hated person in Italy.

                  4. For every Inter fans the "Calciopoli" thing was a revenge. That's why I support Inter, because they were the only team (of the major 3) who you know for sure weren't fixing match or something like that. Moratti is a good man, he deserved that trophy. Guys like Javier Zanetti should be the role model in soccer, they never speak trash, they are loyal to the fans and to their team. It's for player like him that I still like soccer.

                  5. The situation touched is low point with this past summer scandle, but that was a long story. Juventus and Moggi simply destroyed any competition, any chance for minor teams to have some successe. They monopolized soccer with something similar to Mafia. And that's not an exageration. That's the principal reason I've stopped watching football with passion, because we all knowed what was going on, and that there were no place for onesty.

                  6. I'm from Cagliari so I know Suazo very well. His talent has never been used properly playing for us since Zola retire. He deserves a chance on another team.


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                  • Originally posted by Modano View Post
                    1. Agree to disagree on Gilardino ;)

                    2. I've actually watched every game Inter played this past season, but without the same emotion I watch a game played by the Dallas Cowboys. I'm happy they won, but I'm not a huge fan anymore.

                    3. Milan has a very annoying organisation. Lancellotti is the type of coach and person I would punch in the face. He's so superb! Galliani was and is a bad thing for italian soccer. He's an ass, and he has killed many minor teams with his policy. And Berlusconi is probably the most hated person in Italy.

                    4. For every Inter fans the "Calciopoli" thing was a revenge. That's why I support Inter, because they were the only team (of the major 3) who you know for sure weren't fixing match or something like that. Moratti is a good man, he deserved that trophy. Guys like Javier Zanetti should be the role model in soccer, they never speak trash, they are loyal to the fans and to their team. It's for player like him that I still like soccer.

                    5. The situation touched is low point with this past summer scandle, but that was a long story. Juventus and Moggi simply destroyed any competition, any chance for minor teams to have some successe. They monopolized soccer with something similar to Mafia. And that's not an exageration. That's the principal reason I've stopped watching football with passion, because we all knowed what was going on, and that there were no place for onesty.

                    6. I'm from Cagliari so I know Suazo very well. His talent has never been used properly playing for us since Zola retire. He deserves a chance on another team.
                    I'm like you in the respect that American football has overtaken my interest. I support Coventry who are perenially midtable in the championship. They have no good players of note and are the defination of a boring side to watch and support. In Italy, as you might have guessed, I've always liked Parma. However since the Parmalat scandal and lack of TV coverage they've been harder to follow. Still, 3 amazing relegation escapes in a row is quite an acheivement.

                    I've long liked Zanetti too. He has been the best right back in the world for a while and is just such a great dribbler. He is a model proffesional too. I think it was really harsh of him being excluded from the Argentina squad just because of the Inter Villereal brawl last year. Zanetti, Thuram and Lucarelli are amongst the last in a dying breed of respectable, politically concious footballers.

                    I've heard Suazo is very likely to go to Inter, although he'd prefer Roma. Either way I think he'll be a success.

                    I guess the title was a bit of a given because of all the points deductions. If you didn't win it this year the apparent curse would be more blantant than ever. I remember that season with Cuper in charge when you blew it and in the last 90's when Ronaldo was dominant but you somehow managed to lose. You were bound to win it sooner or later. The fashion you've won it in is unbelievable though. I know the league is weaker but Inter have been rapant and had they been in the premiership I think they'd actually have won that too.

                    You wonder how long Moggi had been fixing things. I'm amazed that he could have so much influence over it. The punishments weren't harsh enough, highlighted by Milan actually being allowed to enter the champions league. Berlusconi can't be that unpopular. He was prime minister afterall.

                    The most unjust thing about the calipoli scandle is the fact that Fiorentina stayed up. If it weren't for the match fixing Bologna would have never been relegated as Fiorentina only stayed up on vertue of head on competition. So infact they weren't really punished.
                    Originally posted by nobodyinparticular
                    #1--Russell I can't be too disappointed in this pick because he is, realistically, a huge upgrade (in the same way that the Great Wall of China would be a huge upgrade over the fence in my backyard) over Andrew Walter.

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                    • Originally posted by AdrianWilson12 View Post
                      I guess the title was a bit of a given because of all the points deductions. If you didn't win it this year the apparent curse would be more blantant than ever. I remember that season with Cuper in charge when you blew it and in the last 90's when Ronaldo was dominant but you somehow managed to lose. You were bound to win it sooner or later. The fashion you've won it in is unbelievable though. I know the league is weaker but Inter have been rapant and had they been in the premiership I think they'd actually have won that too.
                      I don't know if the point deductions was a factor. It was only 8 points... Btw, there was something in the Inter "karma" that didn't allow them to win. Everytime they lost in unimaginable ways. This year's success could set the tone, now the team know they can win.

                      I guess you're watching the game right now. Do you realise why I hate them? Liverpool dominated the first period but Milan is winning only because of LUCK.


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                      • Can someone summarize what has happened so far in today's game? I'm stuck at work.


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                        • Liverpool has been dominant in the first half but Milan scored at the 45' on a free kick
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                          • Liverpool should've won this game. *shrug*

                            I didn't see the whole game at work, but from what I saw Liverpool had the better posession and the better scoring chances.

                            Gerrard was horrid today, terrible performance by one of the best in the world.


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                            • Milan won the game 2-1...

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                              • :( Just one of them days. I think he should have thrown on Crouch earlier than he did. I'm too depressed to give my full thoughts now, maybe I'll reflect on it later...

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