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  • #16
    Originally posted by yo123 View Post
    If you need a special board-not a skill.
    Nah, that's a skill.. you still have to throw the dice a certain way to get your number. It's not like anyone could just do it right away.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Lions WMD View Post
      Nah, that's a skill.. you still have to throw the dice a certain way to get your number. It's not like anyone could just do it right away.


      This is true. I should have said not that impressive.

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      • #18
        Throwing dice is not a skill.

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        • #19
          Not a skill.




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          • #20
            The betting is the skill more so than throwing the dice. If you get hot you know you're hot if you're dead you're dead. The actual tossing of dice is not a skill.
            Originally posted by njx9
            i mean, why wouldn't the broncos take cam newton? they can play him at quarterback WITH tebow!

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            • #21
              For like 99.9 % of people in the world the tossing of dice is not a skill. I'm looking for one youtube video where the guy was able to call out his roll like 10 times in a row.
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              Originally posted by njx9
              oh please. as if canadians even know what beer is.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by no bare feet View Post
                The betting is the skill more so than throwing the dice. If you get hot you know you're hot if you're dead you're dead. The actual tossing of dice is not a skill.
                That doesn't make any sense. You've got it backwards. Basing your betting patterns on being "hot" is stupidity. There is nothing skillful about that at all. You can roll a 7 fifty times in a row, but your odds are still 1 in 6 on every roll thereafter.

                Throwing the dice though? That certainly can be a skill. Just as throwing a curve ball just over the inside corner is a skill. Most people can't do it, but some can with regularity and precision.

                So, it's not a skill if you're talking about some random guy who's just mindlessly tossing dice, but it is a skill if somebody spent hours upon hours practicing until he got to the point where he could throw certain numbers significantly more often than odds would dictate.

                I know a lot of people who look real goofy trying to swing a golf club. Where the ball lands or whether they even hit it seem to be pure chance. The majority of people don't appear to have any skill whatsoever when it comes to the game of golf. With enough practice though?

                The answer to this question depends entirely on who is rolling the dice.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by duckseason View Post
                  That doesn't make any sense. You've got it backwards. Basing your betting patterns on being "hot" is stupidity. There is nothing skillful about that at all. You can roll a 7 fifty times in a row, but your odds are still 1 in 6 on every roll thereafter.

                  Throwing the dice though? That certainly can be a skill. Just as throwing a curve ball just over the inside corner is a skill. Most people can't do it, but some can with regularity and precision.

                  So, it's not a skill if you're talking about some random guy who's just mindlessly tossing dice, but it is a skill if somebody spent hours upon hours practicing until he got to the point where he could throw certain numbers significantly more often than odds would dictate.

                  I know a lot of people who look real goofy trying to swing a golf club. Where the ball lands or whether they even hit it seem to be pure chance. The majority of people don't appear to have any skill whatsoever when it comes to the game of golf. With enough practice though?

                  The answer to this question depends entirely on who is rolling the dice.


                  Betting is a skill, being able to know when to stop and when to gamble. Hedging loses and understanding at times the dice go dead.

                  I am talking about betting from the rail, may have wanted to indicate that.
                  Last edited by no bare feet; 08-13-2009, 09:00 AM.
                  Originally posted by njx9
                  i mean, why wouldn't the broncos take cam newton? they can play him at quarterback WITH tebow!

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                  • #24
                    I have not seen anyone that can pull off a predicted throw yet. Not saying its not possible, but that I have not seen it. If you can throw the dice (and they are not tampered in any way) and know what you will throw, then it is a skill. Otherwise, no


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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by CM4 View Post
                      Im in an argument with someone and he feels that rolling dice is a skill... Please comment!!! T
                      If he is convinced its a skill make him give you odds. Tell him you will put 5 bucks against his 7. You'll come out ahead every time.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by duckseason View Post
                        That doesn't make any sense. You've got it backwards. Basing your betting patterns on being "hot" is stupidity. There is nothing skillful about that at all. You can roll a 7 fifty times in a row, but your odds are still 1 in 6 on every roll thereafter.

                        Throwing the dice though? That certainly can be a skill. Just as throwing a curve ball just over the inside corner is a skill. Most people can't do it, but some can with regularity and precision.

                        So, it's not a skill if you're talking about some random guy who's just mindlessly tossing dice, but it is a skill if somebody spent hours upon hours practicing until he got to the point where he could throw certain numbers significantly more often than odds would dictate.

                        I know a lot of people who look real goofy trying to swing a golf club. Where the ball lands or whether they even hit it seem to be pure chance. The majority of people don't appear to have any skill whatsoever when it comes to the game of golf. With enough practice though?

                        The answer to this question depends entirely on who is rolling the dice.
                        Unfortunately that isn't possible. Otherwise dice wouldn't be in Vegas casinos.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by someone447 View Post
                          Unfortunately that isn't possible. Otherwise dice wouldn't be in Vegas casinos.
                          That doesn't make any sense. That's like saying guns can't misfire because if they could, cops wouldn't carry them. Whether something exists in Vegas casinos has no bearing on whether or not a person can be skillful at it. Many people have the skills to beat blackjack and sportsbooks, win at poker...all these things exist in casinos. Like I said, not everybody is just mindlessly throwing their money around while gambling. There are many people out there who make a living at it. It may be considered cheating to manipulate the outcome of a dice roll, but that doesn't mean it's not skillful when somebody does it.

                          If you don't think it's possible, I don't know what else to say. They are simply two cubes that you have complete control over. They aren't ping pong balls flying around in a machine. You actually toss them with your own hand. Just like a baseball. Just like how people can manipulate a deck of cards. Like I said, when most people toss dice, it ends there. There's nothing skillful about it. But with enough practice, a human being is certainly capable of becoming skillful at it.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by someone447 View Post
                            If he is convinced its a skill make him give you odds. Tell him you will put 5 bucks against his 7. You'll come out ahead every time.
                            There is no need for a person to possess all skills that they recognize as skills. I sure as hell have no skills when it comes to playing the guitar, but I can acknowledge and appreciate it as a skill. Same thing with rolling dice. I can't manipulate the damn things, but I'm not so ignorant to believe that no human being is capable of doing so.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by duckseason View Post
                              That doesn't make any sense. That's like saying guns can't misfire because if they could, cops wouldn't carry them. Whether something exists in Vegas casinos has no bearing on whether or not a person can be skillful at it. Many people have the skills to beat blackjack and sportsbooks, win at poker...all these things exist in casinos. Like I said, not everybody is just mindlessly throwing their money around while gambling. There are many people out there who make a living at it. It may be considered cheating to manipulate the outcome of a dice roll, but that doesn't mean it's not skillful when somebody does it.

                              If you don't think it's possible, I don't know what else to say. They are simply two cubes that you have complete control over. They aren't ping pong balls flying around in a machine. You actually toss them with your own hand. Just like a baseball. Just like how people can manipulate a deck of cards. Like I said, when most people toss dice, it ends there. There's nothing skillful about it. But with enough practice, a human being is certainly capable of becoming skillful at it.
                              Even in sports betting, the line makes sure the casino always has the advantage. They win money on almost every game the lay odds on. In Blackjack the house still has an advantage against a card counter, the only way to actually beat the game is through collusion. A casino will never have a game that can legitimately be beaten. It is just bad business, and casinos don't make a habit of bad business.

                              Poker is a completely different beast. For one, in Poker you aren't playing against the house. The casino takes a rake from every hand, so they don't care whether you win or lose, they still get their money.

                              You don't have complete control over them due to the shape of the dice. Even rolled exactly the same way, the dice will produce different results. Go ahead and try to figure out how to beat craps, you will have as good of luck as you would trying to beat roulette.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by duckseason View Post
                                There is no need for a person to possess all skills that they recognize as skills. I sure as hell have no skills when it comes to playing the guitar, but I can acknowledge and appreciate it as a skill. Same thing with rolling dice. I can't manipulate the damn things, but I'm not so ignorant to believe that no human being is capable of doing so.
                                It is no more ignorant to say control of dice throwing isn't possible as it is to say that roulette systems don't work, both are just a fact of the universe. Without weighted dice you have the same odds of throwing a 7 as does anyone else.
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