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Bert Macklin 04-17-2012 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Brent (Post 2953097)

Yeah not really

CJSchneider 04-17-2012 08:45 PM


Bert Macklin 04-17-2012 08:52 PM

Applying for a job. LIKE A BOSS.


CJSchneider 04-17-2012 09:44 PM


Stash 04-17-2012 10:30 PM




Bert Macklin 04-17-2012 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Stash (Post 2953608)



Had an interview today and I told the guy this straight up. Need a job to get experience.

killxswitch 04-17-2012 10:42 PM

Volunteering and unpaid internships are a good way to get some experience if you can swing it financially.

Bert Macklin 04-17-2012 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by killxswitch (Post 2953635)
Volunteering and unpaid internships are a good way to get some experience if you can swing it financially.

Most people not in school it's not an option.

BeerBaron 04-17-2012 10:49 PM

A lot of jobs also count the years you spent in college as "experience" if it was for a relevant degree.

But there are instances where that is paradoxically true... The summer between my sophomore and junior years of college (2008, the worst year of the recession) half the department I worked in for my summer job was laid off and i got my hours cut back from 32-40 a week to 8-16. (1-2 shifts basically.) I applied everyone that would take an application, including some restaurants.

Who, of course, said they weren't interested because I didn't have any experience in a restaurant. How the **** does one acquire experience in a restaurant when no restaurant will hire you because you don't have experience in a restaurant because....ahh!

njx9 04-17-2012 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by killxswitch (Post 2953635)
Volunteering and unpaid internships are a good way to get some experience if you can swing it financially.

thisthisthis. i've said it before. i spent one day a week volunteering from high school through college (when i was home on weekends). that experience got me my job.

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Originally Posted by Bert Macklin (Post 2953649)
Most people not in school it's not an option.

there isn't one day a week you could do something for an hour or two? then in all honesty, it's unlikely i'm going to hire you. it's just not that difficult to find time to do something that's similar to the jobs you'd like to apply for.

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Originally Posted by BeerBaron (Post 2953656)
Who, of course, said they weren't interested because I didn't have any experience in a restaurant. How the **** does one acquire experience in a restaurant when no restaurant will hire you because you don't have experience in a restaurant because....ahh!

it means they probably had applicants who did have the experience, or were 'high end' (for whatever that means in that location) that they felt they could be pickier. *shrug*

Brent 04-17-2012 11:02 PM

I volunteered at an animal shelter in college. That didnt last long (they put dogs down) but I did leave with a dog of my own.

nepg 04-17-2012 11:04 PM

If a restaurant won't hire you because you don't have experience, they're politely telling you that you're ugly.

tEk 04-17-2012 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Stash (Post 2953608)


wow, first one i really laughed at in a long time!

vidae 04-17-2012 11:29 PM


Mufasa 04-17-2012 11:32 PM

But sadly love has nothing to do with herpes

Bert Macklin 04-17-2012 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by njx9 (Post 2953684)


there isn't one day a week you could do something for an hour or two? then in all honesty, it's unlikely i'm going to hire you. it's just not that difficult to find time to do something that's similar to the jobs you'd like to apply for

**** you I'm american!

Bosanac01 04-17-2012 11:48 PM

I think the problem with people is that they look for the perfect job and they don't want to do just anything to get experience. I work 3 jobs right now, and I go to school full time. When I get my degree I know for a fact I will have at least some experience somewhere. Now I realize that I'm over-doing it, but I don't care if I get paid ****. Im working for experience and whatever I get paid is just a bonus that I can spend to go out and have fun once in a while and actually enjoy life. Pretty much it's not easy for me right now, but you can't convince that finding a job is hard. You're probably asking for too much.

BTW, I'm not talking about a high-end job, I'm talking about a ****** job to get your foot in the door somewhere and and see how things go.

Verloren 04-18-2012 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Bosanac01 (Post 2953745)
I think the problem with people is that they look for the perfect job and they don't want to do just anything to get experience.

Pretty much it's not easy for me right now, but you can't convince that finding a job is hard. You're probably asking for too much.

BTW, I'm not talking about a high-end job, I'm talking about a ****** job to get your foot in the door somewhere and and see how things go.

It goes beyond that. HR offices for biotech/chemical companies and universities sometimes tell PhD graduates they don't have any relevant experience when these people apply for a post-doc position. This is despite spending at least 4 years doing bench work and experimentation for a thesis.

Mufasa 04-18-2012 02:56 AM


njx9 04-18-2012 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Verloren (Post 2953792)
It goes beyond that. HR offices for biotech/chemical companies and universities sometimes tell PhD graduates they don't have any relevant experience when these people apply for a post-doc position. This is despite spending at least 4 years doing bench work and experimentation for a thesis.

i think this is more like (presuming it really is an 'entry level' type position) the restaurant example above. "you don't have relevant experience" is a nice way of saying "we have better applicants (who probably have more experience)".

BeerBaron 04-18-2012 08:32 AM











This is for you njx:

eaglesalltheway 04-18-2012 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Vito (Post 2952568)

I know this is a few pages old... but how (unfortunately) true is this?

BeerBaron 04-18-2012 08:36 AM

Yeah, the two party system is pretty flawed. And it's virtually impossible to find any kind of success as a 3rd party candidate.

Bengals78 04-18-2012 08:40 AM

The only true difference any more between the parties is news station affiliate

eaglesalltheway 04-18-2012 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by raiderz4life (Post 2952816)

It needs to be seen again...

ImBrotherCain 04-18-2012 08:49 AM

I personally think all rap sucks so that Meme is ********... Not to mention I don't know who half of them are.

eaglesalltheway 04-18-2012 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BeerBaron (Post 2953965)


If it didn't totally drive ME insane seeing it, I'd probably do that at jobs, simply for the fact that I know it'd really piss people off. (plus it looks like ****)

BeerBaron 04-18-2012 08:58 AM


eaglesalltheway 04-18-2012 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ImBrotherCain (Post 2953984)
I personally think all rap sucks so that Meme is ********... Not to mention I don't know who half of them are.

For the most part I agree. When ******* Mac goddamn Miller is one of the biggest names in your industry, your industry sucks balls. There are some quality rappers out there though still, though. Its still lacking something (that something is it being music) most times, but I can listen to some rap as a change-up. The rap I like most usually tells a story, if its told in first person, I usually don't give a ****. That's what most rap is anymore, and I wish I could meet most of them and tell them I don't give two flying ***** about what they did or would do so don't ******* rap about it. Try to teach me something or make me think. Don't just tell me about how "awesome" you are. I don't give a ****.

Wootylicous 04-18-2012 09:04 AM


killxswitch 04-18-2012 09:48 AM


njx9 04-18-2012 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by eaglesalltheway (Post 2954006)
For the most part I agree. When ******* Mac goddamn Miller is one of the biggest names in your industry, your industry sucks balls. There are some quality rappers out there though still, though. Its still lacking something (that something is it being music) most times, but I can listen to some rap as a change-up. The rap I like most usually tells a story, if its told in first person, I usually don't give a ****. That's what most rap is anymore, and I wish I could meet most of them and tell them I don't give two flying ***** about what they did or would do so don't ******* rap about it. Try to teach me something or make me think. Don't just tell me about how "awesome" you are. I don't give a ****.

see, i think there's zero difference between any styles of music. the radio rap is just as bad as the radio rock or radio pop. i mean, is the fact that nickleback is a huge name in rock really representative of anything other than the fact that people have terrible taste? it's the same thing in rap. there are so many awesome 'indie' type artists doing interesting things, but if you rely on the radio or popular opinion to play those things, you'll be waiting for a really, really long time. it's why pictures like the one posted have never made sense to me. why would i listen to lil wayne? he's the justin bieber of rap. why would i listen to waka flocka? for the same reasons i would listen to nickleback. they're all terrible at what they do, but they all sell well because they appeal to people who like bubblegum.

BeerBaron 04-18-2012 10:13 AM

Ha, radio. I haven't listened to an actual radio station willingly in years. And when I'm forced to, it's usually when I'm back home and I ride anywhere with my parents. My mom has XM in her vehicle and lets me pick the station and my dad listens to an 80s/90s rock station which is tolerable.

Bengals78 04-18-2012 10:14 AM

I have two radio stations preset on my truck.
One for classic rock and 700 WLW for Reds games.

eaglesalltheway 04-18-2012 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by njx9 (Post 2954104)
see, i think there's zero difference between any styles of music. the radio rap is just as bad as the radio rock or radio pop. i mean, is the fact that nickleback is a huge name in rock really representative of anything other than the fact that people have terrible taste? it's the same thing in rap. there are so many awesome 'indie' type artists doing interesting things, but if you rely on the radio or popular opinion to play those things, you'll be waiting for a really, really long time. it's why pictures like the one posted have never made sense to me. why would i listen to lil wayne? he's the justin bieber of rap. why would i listen to waka flocka? for the same reasons i would listen to nickleback. they're all terrible at what they do, but they all sell well because they appeal to people who like bubblegum.

I can kinda agree with this, but I don't really consider most rap actual music, well.. because it isn't. There is no melody to a lot of the **** rap, and because there is no melody, it isn't (technically) music. But your point about people having ****** taste, that's all spot on. Most of the really good rappers are unknown. (please no one say Childish Gambino, his **** is trash too) Just like most of the best music (of all different genres) is relatively unknown. I'd like to believe that eventually the masses will come around, but that's some serious optimism right there.

nepg 04-18-2012 11:39 AM

I don't think it is as much about people having poor taste as much as them just accepting what radio stations are paid to play. Most people don't have the time or drive to find music they really like.

eaglesalltheway 04-18-2012 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bengals78 (Post 2954112)
I have two radio stations preset on my truck.
One for classic rock and 700 WLW for Reds games.

I've got Philly 104.5 (Its probably one of the few "Big radio stations that finds good music, but they even get a little repetitive sometimes), A country station from Philly (kinda similar in that you hear lesser known country artists, and other songs than just radio singles), 88.5 which plays variety, and real variety, with the exception of the pop (comes in fuzzy though) and two local college radio stations. Those both play some weird things that you never really hear. But I really don't listen to the radio much at all. Even the stations I like. I've been playing solely Of Monsters and Men in my car for the past two weeks, and things like this are not uncommon.

eaglesalltheway 04-18-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by nepg (Post 2954228)
I don't think it is as much about people having poor taste as much as them just accepting what radio stations are paid to play. Most people don't have the time or drive to find music they really like.

Which is why they will get stuck with ****** pop music. And believe me, plenty of people genuinely like the **** on the radios. I've got too many friends that genuinely like Soulja Boy, or **** like Creed (for non-rappers).

Wootylicous 04-18-2012 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by eaglesalltheway (Post 2954220)
I can kinda agree with this, but I don't really consider most rap actual music, well.. because it isn't. There is no melody to a lot of the **** rap, and because there is no melody, it isn't (technically) music. But your point about people having ****** taste, that's all spot on. Most of the really good rappers are unknown. (please no one say Childish Gambino, his **** is trash too) Just like most of the best music (of all different genres) is relatively unknown. I'd like to believe that eventually the masses will come around, but that's some serious optimism right there.

You did not say that

CJSchneider 04-18-2012 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by eaglesalltheway (Post 2954220)
I can kinda agree with this, but I don't really consider most rap actual music, well.. because it isn't. There is no melody to a lot of the **** rap, and because there is no melody, it isn't (technically) music. But your point about people having ****** taste, that's all spot on. Most of the really good rappers are unknown. (please no one say Childish Gambino, his **** is trash too) Just like most of the best music (of all different genres) is relatively unknown. I'd like to believe that eventually the masses will come around, but that's some serious optimism right there.

You know I love you, but I'll accept this when you show me your degree in musical theory.


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