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Rob S 01-06-2012 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by wogitalia (Post 2813240)
That is just horrible. When I delivered pizza I got $23 p/h, at least $3 per delivery and up to $5 for a delivery(depended on how far away) as well as getting to keep tips.

Honestly, it wouldn't be worth even going to work for $4 an hour. The tips and delivery fees basically covered petrol and other costs and the rest was profit.

That said, salary is for the win, though I wish we had flexi hours like the government jobs over here do(you do say 40 hours a week whenever you feel like it).
Its not really whenever you feel like, but there is some wiggle room. A couple of my friends are govt. employees. One has to work 8 hrs./day, but the office is open 7 AM-6 PM, so he has some wiggle room to work like 10-6 or whatever. The other guy only has 1 hour each way, so his office is open 8 AM-6 PM.

CJSchneider 01-06-2012 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by wogitalia (Post 2813240)
That is just horrible. When I delivered pizza I got $23 p/h, at least $3 per delivery and up to $5 for a delivery(depended on how far away) as well as getting to keep tips.

Honestly, it wouldn't be worth even going to work for $4 an hour. The tips and delivery fees basically covered petrol and other costs and the rest was profit.

That said, salary is for the win, though I wish we had flexi hours like the government jobs over here do(you do say 40 hours a week whenever you feel like it).

Convert that $23 into American.
Minimum wage when I delivered was $5.25. By the end of my delivery days, I had also worked up to a delivery manager who made runs, and was making $7.00 base salary. Depending on what organization you work for depends on what you make per run. I have had $.07 on the dollar per run or $.75 per run (flat rate). which one you receive really sets your strategy for choosing which runs to go on. There are also tons of legit and legal tips for making bigger tips, all which you learn very quick and not all of them are "stand out" obvious when considered in respect to "good service".

Bosanac01 01-06-2012 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by wogitalia (Post 2813240)
That is just horrible. When I delivered pizza I got $23 p/h, at least $3 per delivery and up to $5 for a delivery(depended on how far away) as well as getting to keep tips.

Honestly, it wouldn't be worth even going to work for $4 an hour. The tips and delivery fees basically covered petrol and other costs and the rest was profit.

That said, salary is for the win, though I wish we had flexi hours like the government jobs over here do(you do say 40 hours a week whenever you feel like it).
Damn and I only get $1 per delivery no matter how far it is. Sometimes I don't even have a delivery so I just make my $4/ph for the whole day.

killxswitch 01-06-2012 12:06 PM
I have never had a pizza delivered in my life. I always pick it up.

ElectricEye 01-06-2012 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by killxswitch (Post 2813349)
I have never had a pizza delivered in my life. I always pick it up.
Yeah, me too. No real reason not to. Laziness is not worth $5.

nepg 01-06-2012 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by broth223 (Post 2813226)


This is rather old I can't believe I've never seen this before. But once I saw it I thought strait to our south conversation.

FlyingElvis 01-06-2012 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ElectricEye (Post 2813353)
Yeah, me too. No real reason not to. Laziness is not worth $5.
I have a gas guzzling pig of a vehicle. It's basically a push, in which case it makes more sense to spend my time doing something else that needs doin' and simply tip the money. Essentially, it allows me to multitask and therefore is more economical since I'm getting something else done.

Attack my laziness will ya?
I can justify anything. lol

Jvig43 01-06-2012 12:46 PM
I get pizza delivered almost every weekend, and it is 100% worth it because it usually means no one is capable of picking it up.

CJSchneider 01-06-2012 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jvig43 (Post 2813388)
I get pizza delivered almost every weekend, and it is 100% worth it because it usually means no one is sober enough to pick it up.
Let's be honest.

nepg 01-06-2012 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CJSchneider (Post 2812352)
Please let me know which ones so I can get rich. It is against state labor laws to do that. Having managed a restaurant in college, I had to learn all about that.
Every place I've ever worked at, the waitstaff has to give a % of their sales to the bartender and bussers as tip out. It's standard procedure.

Never worked anywhere that tips out to the kitchen because those guys usually earn a good wage or are Mexican (or both), but I have heard of it at nicer places.

Basically, you tip because if you didn't and the restaurants had to pay these people a wage at which they would even consider working there, you'd have to pay like $25 for that cheeseburger instead of $10 + $2-4 tip.

CJSchneider 01-06-2012 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by nepg (Post 2813400)
Never worked anywhere that tips out to the kitchen because those guys usually earn a good wage or are Mexican (or both), but I have heard of it at nicer places.
Kitchen minimum is higher than minimum wage. Any place that makes you put tips in pool then divide, does so at risk and they know it. They count on the fact that most people think it is legal. They can't make you and they can't fire you because you won't.

nepg 01-06-2012 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by CJSchneider (Post 2813410)
Kitchen minimum is higher than minimum wage. Any place that makes you put tips in pool then divide, does so at risk and they know it. They count on the fact that most people think it is legal. They can't make you and they can't fire you because you won't.
They don't "think" it's legal, they do it for the good of the whole.

They can't fire you, but you can sure as **** watch your shifts dwindle down to working mid-day on Tuesdays and not having your tables bussed or drinks not coming out very quickly.

Bosanac01 01-06-2012 01:02 PM
They can fire you if they want if you're are an "at will worker."

No contract, GTFO

CJSchneider 01-06-2012 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bosanac01 (Post 2813423)
They can fire you if they want if you're are an "at will worker."

No contract, GTFO
Not without basis.

CJSchneider 01-06-2012 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by nepg (Post 2813418)
They don't "think" it's legal, they do it for the good of the whole.

They can't fire you, but you can sure as **** watch your shifts dwindle down to working mid-day on Tuesdays and not having your tables bussed or drinks not coming out very quickly.
Discrimination of that sort leaves a paper trail.

Bosanac01 01-06-2012 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CJSchneider (Post 2813426)
Not without basis.
Yes without basis.

tongulla 01-06-2012 01:10 PM
cat in a bath tub

jrdrylie 01-06-2012 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by broth223 (Post 2813226)


This is rather old I can't believe I've never seen this before. But once I saw it I thought strait to our south conversation.
This video is actually from Huntsville, Alabama. I am one of the people who work at the arsenal who apparently likes to strut my ass to Guntersville. I seriously have no idea what this guy is talking about. I don't know of a single person that has ever walked, run, or strutted their ass to Guntersville.

nepg 01-06-2012 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by broth223 (Post 2811884)
[Attempt to be historical without being political] Arnold was also a great general and war hero before he sold out west point. In fact Arnold was the general and hero in several key battles of the Revolution including Ticonderoga, Saratoga, and another in the Albany area but I was being purposefully controversial because when you get down to brass tacks he was still a traitor he was an American who fought against the United States. History books will gussy it up by calling the Union but it was the American people who elected an american president and lee was the lead general who fought against what is currently our country. I find it strange that we celebrate one traitor and demonize another. [/attempt]
Big difference between the two. Benedict Arnold conspired against his country. When Virginia seceded, Lee was forced to choose between his country and his home. Also worth noting that Lee was a prominent Union figure both before and after the war.

CJSchneider 01-06-2012 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Bosanac01 (Post 2813436)
Yes without basis.
No, they can't. Even as a waiter/waitress, your employer has to have a rational reason to fire you. That's why even employers such as Dominoes and Pizza Hut for example have an employee handbook that that you sign when you begin employment.

nepg 01-06-2012 01:37 PM



ncst8fan83 01-06-2012 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CJSchneider (Post 2813449)
No, they can't. Even as a waiter/waitress, your employer has to have a rational reason to fire you. That's why even employers such as Dominoes and Pizza Hut for example have an employee handbook that that you sign when you begin employment.
Me thinks you need to read up on at will employment law, my friend. In North Carolina, a company can fire you, without basis, at any time. You can also leave said company, without basis, at any time. Most of the time, companies do not follow this because of varying laws from state-to-state. But if a company only operates within an "at will" state, they can release you from employment at their discretion.

Prowler 01-06-2012 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by nepg (Post 2813475)

I wish the skinny kid would have died. I also wish that they didn't suspend the chubby one.

If I ever worked at a zoo, I'd probably be fired for messing with the animals. I'd throw a football at the gorilla and see if he could be more accurate than Tebow when he throws it back.

CJSchneider 01-06-2012 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ncst8fan83 (Post 2813477)
Me thinks you need to read up on at will employment law, my friend. In North Carolina, a company can fire you, without basis, at any time. You can also leave said company, without basis, at any time. Most of the time, companies do not follow this because of varying laws from state-to-state. But if a company only operates within an "at will" state, they can release you from employment at their discretion.
Release and fire are two different things. They have to be in order to protect legitimate business interest and against well-fare/unemployment fraud.

ncst8fan83 01-06-2012 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by CJSchneider (Post 2813508)
Release and fire are two different things. They have to be in order to protect legitimate business interest and against well-fare/unemployment fraud.
From the NC Dept of Labor site:

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The term "Employment-at-Will" simply means that unless there is a specific law to protect employees or there is an employment contract providing otherwise, then an employer can treat its employees as it sees fit (including the assignment of demeaning tasks) and the employer can discharge an employee at the will of the employer for any reason or no reason at all.
Obviously it could vary from state to state, but there is no distinction between being fired and being laid-off in at at-will state. I don't agree in the morality of it, but it's mostly to keep unions and such out of the state (or at least limit their control over a company's ability to fire a worker).


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