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bigbluedefense 12-14-2006 11:26 AM

Will the Death of Hunt Influence the Outcome of SD/KC game?
 
We saw the Giants last year get inspired and absolutely destroy the Redskins when they lost Wellington. I don't think any team in NFL history wouldve beat them that day.

Will KC pull off the same thing? They are underdogs, but it is also a division rival, and they have beat them before. Will they honor Hunt with a victory, or is SD's talent too much too overcome? It should be interesting as well if this unfortunate circumstance alters the spread of the game.

NOTE: If this thread is inappropriate, or doesn't belong in the NFL discussion, I have no problem with it being locked.

And keep the debating clean guys.

Mr. Stiller 12-14-2006 11:28 AM

Re: Will the Death of Hunt Influence the Outcome of SD/KC ga
 
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Originally Posted by bigbluedefense
We saw the Giants last year get inspired and absolutely destroy the Redskins when they lost Wellington. I don't think any team in NFL history wouldve beat them that day.

Will KC pull off the same thing? They are underdogs, but it is also a division rival, and they have beat them before. Will they honor Hunt with a victory, or is SD's talent too much too overcome? It should be interesting as well if this unfortunate circumstance alters the spread of the game.

NOTE: If this thread is inappropriate, or doesn't belong in the NFL discussion, I have no problem with it being locked.

And keep the debating clean guys.

As much as I feel bad for the passing of Lamar Hunt, If KC finishes 9-7 Pittsburgh could still make the playoffs.

Splat 12-14-2006 11:36 AM

Both the Chiefs and Pittsburgh are not making the playoffs.

T-RICH49 12-14-2006 11:38 AM

I say they do get inspired for the SD game.If they don't they are truely heartless

bigbluedefense 12-14-2006 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Splat420
Both the Chiefs and Pittsburgh are not making the playoffs.

If KC wins on Sunday, I think them and Jacksonville make it. I think Cinncy's gonna hit a cold streak soon.

CC.SD 12-14-2006 11:40 AM

Last year it was Trent Green's dad. Conspiracy?


clearly kidding.

Mr. Stiller 12-14-2006 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Splat420
Both the Chiefs and Pittsburgh are not making the playoffs.

They could both make the playoffs... the Cheifs much easier than the Steelers.

If Pittsburgh and KC finish 9-7 for the final spot we have the tie breaker.

you never know.

Splat 12-14-2006 11:48 AM

The Chiefs just plain suck on the road there next two games are on the road I would be shocked if they win out.

bigbluedefense 12-14-2006 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Splat420
The Chiefs just plain suck on the road there next two games are on the road I would be shocked if they win out.

Who knows, maybe theyll get some good fortune. Maybe they'll play with more passion now.

Jughead10 12-14-2006 11:56 AM

I don't buy the whole inspired thing. And I don't buy that the Giants could have beaten anyone that day last year. Giants played the likes of the Skins last year. That isn't like the Chargers of this year.

More likely the Giants killed the Redskins because of Antonio Pierce. He knew exactly what the Skins would do on defense and told the offensive coaches so they could adjust and it worked perfectly. On the first drive the skins like to run defenses that counter the top 5 plays the opposing teams like to use. Pierce knew this and just a simple switch of running a play to the weakside instead of the strongside like they always did, resutled in a huge gain on the first play from scrimmage.

bigbluedefense 12-14-2006 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead10
I don't buy the whole inspired thing. And I don't buy that the Giants could have beaten anyone that day last year. Giants played the likes of the Skins last year. That isn't like the Chargers of this year.

More likely the Giants killed the Redskins because of Antonio Pierce. He knew exactly what the Skins would do on defense and told the offensive coaches so they could adjust and it worked perfectly. On the first drive the skins like to run defenses that counter the top 5 plays the opposing teams like to use. Pierce knew this and just a simple switch of running a play to the weakside instead of the strongside like they always did, resutled in a huge gain on the first play from scrimmage.

I was at that game...there was no way in hell anyone was beating the Giants that day. It wasn't just outsmarting the Skins, they just pushed them around physically as well. It was like a college game almost. Brunell had no where to go, we got pressure on them every play, even with 4 guys. They were just really amped that game, you could feel it in the air.

Jughead10 12-14-2006 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbluedefense
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Originally Posted by Jughead10
I don't buy the whole inspired thing. And I don't buy that the Giants could have beaten anyone that day last year. Giants played the likes of the Skins last year. That isn't like the Chargers of this year.

More likely the Giants killed the Redskins because of Antonio Pierce. He knew exactly what the Skins would do on defense and told the offensive coaches so they could adjust and it worked perfectly. On the first drive the skins like to run defenses that counter the top 5 plays the opposing teams like to use. Pierce knew this and just a simple switch of running a play to the weakside instead of the strongside like they always did, resutled in a huge gain on the first play from scrimmage.

I was at that game...there was no way in hell anyone was beating the Giants that day. It wasn't just outsmarting the Skins, they just pushed them around physically as well. It was like a college game almost. Brunell had no where to go, we got pressure on them every play, even with 4 guys. They were just really amped that game, you could feel it in the air.

And the Skins weren't very good. And still aren't. They aren't San Diego. I think Hunt's death has no effect on the game. San Diego will keep rolling on.

eazyb81 12-14-2006 12:01 PM

I think the trash talking going on between the teams will have more of an effect on the game than Hunt's passing.

To get everyone up to speed......

“What sticks out in my mind is them calling us soft last game,” Tomlinson said. “Obviously as a player, when somebody calls you soft, you don’t like it too much.”

LT made these comments based on Hali's quote from a few weeks ago:

“After running the film we didn't think they were as physical as we faced (earlier this year),” Hali said. “The Steelers were physical. We played a physical game there. We were all banged up when we came out of there. Looking at the film, we know they (the Chargers) were a finesse team. We didn't think they were that physical a team, so we thought we could get after them.”

Then Shane Olivea decided to get in on the act....

"When we play them, he's about to get that (rear end) whipped,” right tackle Shane Olivea said. “When you play a team twice, you can't say something like that. Especially when you made a play or two, you ain't in no position. That's just a rookie running his mouth. But trust me, I'm going to shut that mouth"



What's worse....Shane Olivea talking trash, or a rookie?

bigbluedefense 12-14-2006 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead10
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Originally Posted by bigbluedefense
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Originally Posted by Jughead10
I don't buy the whole inspired thing. And I don't buy that the Giants could have beaten anyone that day last year. Giants played the likes of the Skins last year. That isn't like the Chargers of this year.

More likely the Giants killed the Redskins because of Antonio Pierce. He knew exactly what the Skins would do on defense and told the offensive coaches so they could adjust and it worked perfectly. On the first drive the skins like to run defenses that counter the top 5 plays the opposing teams like to use. Pierce knew this and just a simple switch of running a play to the weakside instead of the strongside like they always did, resutled in a huge gain on the first play from scrimmage.

I was at that game...there was no way in hell anyone was beating the Giants that day. It wasn't just outsmarting the Skins, they just pushed them around physically as well. It was like a college game almost. Brunell had no where to go, we got pressure on them every play, even with 4 guys. They were just really amped that game, you could feel it in the air.

And the Skins weren't very good. And still aren't. They aren't San Diego. I think Hunt's death has no effect on the game. San Diego will keep rolling on.

I don't think KC will win, I was just posing the question. I do think it will be closer than I initially projected though.

Jughead10 12-14-2006 12:04 PM

Olivea isn't that bad. I think a rookie running his mouth is worse.

Star Wideout 12-14-2006 02:13 PM

I don't think the Chiefs will make the playoffs...

but I believe they will come out fired up Sunday Night and end up with an emotional win.

49ersfan_87 12-14-2006 02:36 PM

i think a similar situation happened with SF a while back, when some owner died mid-game, in like the 50s or 60s? They were down and came back i think, against chi.

Anyways i expect the chiefs to play with fire. Theyre gona be inspired. I think kc will play far beyond their talent and win this game. I dont see san diego winning.

PS is the game in kansas city or san diego? If its in kansas i think theres a 0 percent chance san diego walks out with a win.

T-RICH49 12-14-2006 02:53 PM

It's in San Diego

njx9 12-14-2006 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by T-RICH49
It's in San Diego

enough said, eh?

CC.SD 12-14-2006 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

What's worse....Shane Olivea talking trash, or a rookie?


Uh...a rookie. Olivea is a good tackle. Better than Roaf? No. Welbourn? Maybe. But better than what's left of Kyle Turley, or whoever the hell is playing tackle for the Chiefs right now? Definitely.

This game's in our house, and we get a bye locked up if we win and Indy loses.


No matter what happens though, it's nice to know Chiefs fans will have many years of watching herm put together a championship team with Will Shields, Trent Green, Gonzo, Kennison, Ty Law, Patrick Surtain, Sammy Knight, and the rest of the youthful and exuberant players over there.

Seriously, is it me or is every impact player of KC about to retire? LJ notwithstanding.

eazyb81 12-14-2006 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ChargerCohen
Quote:

Originally Posted by eazyb81

What's worse....Shane Olivea talking trash, or a rookie?


Uh...a rookie. Olivea is a good tackle. Better than Roaf? No. Welbourn? Maybe. But better than what's left of Kyle Turley, or whoever the hell is playing tackle for the Chiefs right now? Definitely.

This game's in our house, and we get a bye locked up if we win and Indy loses.


No matter what happens though, it's nice to know Chiefs fans will have many years of watching herm put together a championship team with Will Shields, Trent Green, Gonzo, Kennison, Ty Law, Patrick Surtain, Sammy Knight, and the rest of the youthful and exuberant players over there.

Seriously, is it me or is every impact player of KC about to retire? LJ notwithstanding.

Good dig there.....wait, you lost to KC already this season, so you really have no room to talk smack at this point.

And honestly, Shane Olivea isn't that good. Is he better than KC's tackles? Probably, but that's not saying much. Olivea is what, a top 20 tackle? Top 30?

This whole situation is hilarious in that the SD players have to use this to pump themselves up for the game. Hali didn't really say anything insulting, and he certainly didn't say they were soft.

This is sooooo overhyped. This is quintessential Marty locker room psychology. He did that nearly every game. Find some quote that sort of sounds like something really insulting and pin it up and get everyone all fired up.

We know Merriman will be using this to get him ready for the game, now that he doesn't have Deca pumping through his veins.

San Diego Chicken 12-14-2006 06:26 PM

I think KC will give SD their best shot. It really depends on the Chargers. I think they've been looking forward to this one since the Cheifs won in KC, and the Chargers felt they didn't play their best game (bad turnovers in the first quarter, critical penalty on the last possession)

It will definitely be an emotional game for both teams (Schottenheimer was still very close to Lamar Hunt). I hope the Chargers wear the powder blues as a tribute to the old AFL days.

Zim3031 12-14-2006 06:31 PM

A Herm Edwards team finishing strong in December? Yeah... :roll:

doingthisinsteadofwork 12-14-2006 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by San Diego Chicken
I think KC will give SD their best shot. It really depends on the Chargers. I think they've been looking forward to this one since the Cheifs won in KC, and the Chargers felt they didn't play their best game (bad turnovers in the first quarter, critical penalty on the last possession)

It will definitely be an emotional game for both teams (Schottenheimer was still very close to Lamar Hunt). I hope the Chargers wear the powder blues as a tribute to the old AFL days.

itd be cool if the Chiefs wore the old Dallas jerseys.

dpl85 12-14-2006 09:39 PM

I think the Chiefs will be inspired by Hunt's death if they aren't they don't have a pulse, and beat the Chargers. I'm not saying that's the sole reason they'll beat SD but I think it will have a tangible effect on the Chiefs. I think there are some things in life like this that can't be explained with logic or reason but I believe in it anyway.


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