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bigbluedefense 12-21-2006 10:21 AM

Is Luis Castillo the best 3-4 DE in the league?
 
Ive debated this in my mind. If you watch Castillo play, he seems just as dominant if not more dominant than Seymour.

Seymours best numbers were 57 tackles in one season, and 8 sacks in one season. That was 3 years ago, and hasn't quite recaptured that magic since.

In Castillo's 2nd year alone, he has 37 tackles and 7 sacks, with 2 games left to play.

This year Seymour 35 tackles and 4 sacks.

I know Seymour is known for his versatility, but everything he does Castillo does as well. Couple that with a better pass rush, is it far fetched to say that right here right now Castillo is the best 3-4 DE in the league?

Jughead10 12-21-2006 10:25 AM

I think it is a bit far fetched. Right now Castillo is playing with better talent all around on his defense than Seymour is. Teams look to make sure Seymour is taking care of first. On San Diego I think teams are more worried with Jamal Williams and Merriman.

bigbluedefense 12-21-2006 10:30 AM

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I think it is a bit far fetched. Right now Castillo is playing with better talent all around on his defense than Seymour is. Teams look to make sure Seymour is taking care of first. On San Diego I think teams are more worried with Jamal Williams and Merriman.

I think that has some relevance to it but I also think that NEs front 7 is the most underrated in the league.

Aferall, Seymour has Wilfork right next to him and Bruschi and Vrabel behind him.

Castillo is more fluid and more of a DE than Seymour is. I know a lot of it has to do with guys around them, but the difference isn't as large as you think.

jkpigskin 12-21-2006 10:35 AM

thats definatly an argument......... personally i think castillo is still youung and hasnt fufilled his potential yet, but where he is now, he could become better than seymour in the next 2 years

danman253 12-21-2006 10:36 AM

uhhh BBD, wtf is wrong with ur avy?

Number 10 12-21-2006 10:36 AM

BBD whats with the avatars?

bigbluedefense 12-21-2006 10:40 AM

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BBD whats with the avatars?

Is it too graphic? Should I get rid of it?

danman253 12-21-2006 10:41 AM

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BBD whats with the avatars?

Is it too graphic? Should I get rid of it?

Dude come on don't do this.

CC.SD 12-21-2006 10:42 AM

It's worth mentioning that Castilllo has missed 4 games and has still put up those numbers. He's not even playing at 100 percent now that he's back.

He's pretty crazy. IMO his only competition is Igor Olshansky and Seymour.

Number 10 12-21-2006 10:44 AM

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BBD whats with the avatars?

Is it too graphic? Should I get rid of it?

Who are you? Are you trying to get banned?

toonsterwu 12-21-2006 10:44 AM

In general, I'd probably still take Richard Seymour, but Luis is getting close. I think the big difference is the NT they play with. Williams is far better than Wilfork, and I like Wilfork. But I think Williams is the best NT in the game right now, and does a good job of "freeing up" the ends somewhat. Teams gameplan for Seymour when they face the Pats, and as of now, they don't do that against Castillo yet. I'd have to go over somethings, but I do think I'd still take Seymour in a neutral environment.

bigbluedefense 12-21-2006 10:46 AM

its gone... I didn't know I could get banned for that.

thetedginnshow 12-21-2006 10:50 AM

For now, Seymour. For the future, Castillo.

bigbluedefense 12-21-2006 10:53 AM

Remember guys, he missed 4 games....and he has 7 sacks and 37 tackles! Thats damn impressive.

And think about this. The year Seymour exploded with 8 sacks and 55 tackles, he had Ted Washington at NT and Willie McGinnest at LB with Bruschi and Vrabel behind him. Thats a TON of star talent, just as much if not more than Castillo.

And Castillo was on pace to shatter those numbers had he stayed healthy this year. I think thats damn impressive.

12-21-2006 10:58 AM

what was on the avatar??

Jughead10 12-21-2006 10:59 AM

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BBD whats with the avatars?

Is it too graphic? Should I get rid of it?

Who are you? Are you trying to get banned?

Or trying to get me fired at work. I almost had a heart attack when that came up on my monitor.

12-21-2006 11:02 AM

ban the ****** its up again

bigbluedefense 12-21-2006 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Number 10
BBD whats with the avatars?

Is it too graphic? Should I get rid of it?

Who are you? Are you trying to get banned?

Or trying to get me fired at work. I almost had a heart attack when that came up on my monitor.

Really? My coworkers were laughing their butt off. My bad guys.

NIN1984 12-21-2006 11:03 AM

Yeah as of right now I'll say Seymour, but Castillo is on his way

bigbluedefense 12-21-2006 11:03 AM

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ban the ****** its up again

No, that was a different one. Fine guys, I guess I'll stick to the usual ones. I didn't know it was that serious.

12-21-2006 11:04 AM

both of them were repulsive... why did u put the second one up there?

P-L 12-21-2006 11:04 AM

What is/are the avatar(s) in question?

NIN1984 12-21-2006 11:06 AM

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what was on the avatar??

yes what was it I need to know?

bigbluedefense 12-21-2006 11:07 AM

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What is/are the avatar(s) in question?

one was a guy getting bitten by a snake, I saw it up here once before once so I didn't know it was banned, the other was a Bruce Lee one owning somebody in one of his movies.

I took them off immediately after people were offended by them. It won't happen again.

12-21-2006 11:07 AM

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What is/are the avatar(s) in question?

BBD just thought it would be funny to have 2 big pics of a man ******* himself in the @hole, and a man with a blown-off jaw


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