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bucknut12 02-28-2007 01:00 AM

Most embarrassing franchise?!?!?!?!
 
Yeah, well...i'm a die hard Cleveland fan. I was just wondering what NFL franchises are the most embarrassing and pathetic to you. To you, is Cleveland really that pathetic?!

swagger 02-28-2007 01:06 AM

I think the Cardinals are pretty pathetic. Hopefully they can get over that hump.

diabsoule 02-28-2007 01:12 AM

I think the Detroit Lions are the most embarrassing franchise, but if you want to look at weapons a team possesses and are constant underachievers then look no further than the Arizona Cardinals.

49ersfan_87 02-28-2007 01:23 AM

Lions. Without a doubt. Why did they keep millen? Why? He hasnt done anything.

I think another surprising but not really viable candidate would be the chargers. They have the best player in the NFL currently,and had the leagues best record. They dont have a playoff win to show for it and their entire coaching staff is gone, that too a week or two before the combine. Who did they hire? Norv Turner.

Just a bizarre turn of events and its embarassing in my opinion. But not the most.

locseti 02-28-2007 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 49ersfan_87 (Post 172332)
Lions. Without a doubt. Why did they keep millen? Why? He hasnt done anything.

I think another surprising but not really viable candidate would be the chargers. They have the best player in the NFL currently,and had the leagues best record. They dont have a playoff win to show for it and their entire coaching staff is gone, that too a week or two before the combine. Who did they hire? Norv Turner.

Just a bizarre turn of events and its embarassing in my opinion. But not the most.


You're wrong, Millen's done plenty to set this franchise back several decades.

Severe Punishment 02-28-2007 01:46 AM

On the field it's the Arizona Cardinals and it's not that close. At least Cleveland has made a few title games over their franchise's history.

2nd would be Detroit and then ...for the Bronze would be the Cleveland Browns.


Off the field it's the Dallas Cowboys in a landslide that would wipe out 1/2 of this country.

Caddy 02-28-2007 03:05 AM

Detroit.. No qeustion about it.. Thank Millen for that

niel89 02-28-2007 03:44 AM

well normally i would say arizona but they are looking good. but they allways look like they are gonna be good

then you have the browns who are bad, but they have been in the playoffs. sadly they were the ones getting ran over on The Drive.

The lions. well millen has really had that team not doing much. i dont know about their past so i dont know.

ill go with cleaveland because im a ravens fan and i like beating them.

roidrunner 02-28-2007 06:46 AM

in order:

Lions
Cleveland
Oakland
Arizona

NIN1984 02-28-2007 07:06 AM

The past 4 years yeah Raiders has been sad but all time would go to the Cards or the Lions

roidrunner 02-28-2007 07:08 AM

all these teams have had a major NFL bust in the last 4 or 5 years. but all time would be the saints.

eacantdraft 02-28-2007 07:24 AM

Lions, Raidahs, Cardinals, Browns

bearsfan_51 02-28-2007 08:23 AM

I have a hard time even enjoying the Lions suckage anymore. They are beyond terrible.

I don't see Cleveland as that bad. Sure they've never won a Superbowl, but historically they are still a much better franchise than say, the Saints or even the Falcons.

njx9 02-28-2007 08:51 AM

not cleveland. those were some great teams in the 90's that nearly went to a super bowl. the lions have, essentially, never so much as sniffed a super bowl. the saints hadn't ever even won a playoff game until recently.

eacantdraft 02-28-2007 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by njx9 (Post 172638)
not cleveland. those were some great teams in the 90's that nearly went to a super bowl. the lions have, essentially, never so much as sniffed a super bowl. the saints hadn't ever even won a playoff game until recently.

Oh great football guru, could you provide some examples of the great Cleveland teams in the 90's. I'm waiting.

duckseason 02-28-2007 08:54 AM

Yeah, if you're fans sport paper bags over their heads, I think "embarrassing" might be a word you'd use.

HawkeyeFan 02-28-2007 08:56 AM

The biggest embarassement? Without a doubt Detroit Lions, second inline is the Cardinals (They atleast have weapons in place to be dominate).

roidrunner 02-28-2007 08:56 AM

yea i think that takes the cake. bags over your head at a game. didnt the saints also used to do that?

njx9 02-28-2007 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eacantdraft (Post 172643)
Oh great football guru, could you provide some examples of the great Cleveland teams in the 90's. I'm waiting.

wow, i accidentally typed 90 instead of 80. boy, great gotcha!

duckseason 02-28-2007 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roidrunner (Post 172652)
yea i think that takes the cake. bags over your head at a game. didnt the saints also used to do that?

Yeah that's who I was talking about.

roidrunner 02-28-2007 09:04 AM

so does the lions now. so i guess they are in the same boat.

JF4 02-28-2007 09:05 AM

I think it has to be the Lions for sure over the last 5 years.

bigbluedefense 02-28-2007 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51 (Post 172597)
I have a hard time even enjoying the Lions suckage anymore. They are beyond terrible.

I don't see Cleveland as that bad. Sure they've never won a Superbowl, but historically they are still a much better franchise than say, the Saints or even the Falcons.

Anyone who kills the Browns doesn't understand the deep history of that team, and the success it had. Paul Brown had immense success with them, they produced HOF talent, Schottenheimer brought them to respectability in the 80s, they are a decent team. I can name a decent amount of franchises out there that historically haven't had the success the Browns had.

Its a shame that a lot of the younger Browns fans don't have an appreciation for the history of their team. This is a storied franchise we're talking about.

Sveen 02-28-2007 09:42 AM

Detroit Lions

Tubby 02-28-2007 09:51 AM

Lions and Cards.


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