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jetsfan3 03-03-2007 07:18 PM

Rumor: Jets and Lions in Trade Talk
 
Someone posted it in the Jets forum:

John Clayton on ESPN reported that the Jets and Lions are in trade talks about sending Vilma, #25, and our late 2nd for #2 overall.

No link as of now.


Damn this is one exciting offseason!

BlindSite 03-03-2007 07:19 PM

So you'd lose your best defensive player in order to draft whom? AD? I can't see you guys taking CJ, though he would be a great weapon for years to come, but AD could be great.

Eaglez.Fan 03-03-2007 07:19 PM

Damn, Vilma is a monster that'd be a crazy trade. But this is probably assuming Adrian Peterson would still be there. At the Lions pick. It would be a great trade for both. Detroit picking up the best young ILB, and still having a 1st rounder. And the Jets getting an amazing RB, and Vilma isn't as effective in the 3-4

BuckNaked 03-03-2007 07:20 PM

EF, I guarantee you that the Raiders will not draft AP.

Beans 03-03-2007 07:20 PM

:O

ten times :O

Azale 03-03-2007 07:21 PM

Wow...that's a steep drop in the first round. Has a team ever traded that high up before?

I thought Vilma had a down year this year too...

JoeMontainya 03-03-2007 07:22 PM

"John Clayton on ESPN reported that the Jets and Lions are in trade talks about sending Vilma, #25, and our late 2nd for #2 overall."

If thats the case and the Jets take Peterson, I really hope the Browns take Calvin Johnson.

art vandelay 03-03-2007 07:22 PM

This is definitely a trade for Adrian Peterson.

shavedaeyebrow2 03-03-2007 07:22 PM

Wow, if this happens, I may just not become a Jets fan anymore. We trade away the bulk of our draft, and our defensive captain. Just wow.

ricky bobby 03-03-2007 07:22 PM

I think that it would cost the jets their first and both second round picks to trade up that far. I'm assuming it's for Adrian Peterson.

Basileus777 03-03-2007 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlindSite (Post 185163)
So you'd lose your best defensive player in order to draft whom?

Vilma isn't their best defensive player in the 3-4. If the Jets trade him it means that Mangini doesn't believe that Vilma fits his system.

If this goes through I think the Jets would be getting the better end of this deal by far.

Eaglez.Fan 03-03-2007 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckNaked (Post 185169)
EF, I guarantee you that the Raiders will not draft AP.

Really, why is that? There moving to the west coact offense, which would be huge if they had a very good RB. They're reportedly keeping Moss. And they might get a vet QB.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Azale (Post 185172)
Wow...that's a steep drop in the first round. Has a team ever traded that high up before?

I thought Vilma had a down year this year too...

It was mainly because of the switch from 4-3 to 3-4

BuckNaked 03-03-2007 07:24 PM

They might get a vet QB to pave the way for a younger one.

PoopSandwich 03-03-2007 07:24 PM

Do the Jets run a 4-3 or a 3-4?

If so, I could see them maybe trying to ink a trade with Cleveland for Andra Davis... Leon Williams and D'Qwell seem to fit the 3-4 a bit better.

shavedaeyebrow2 03-03-2007 07:30 PM

The only way I'd trade Vilma would be for Vilma and a 3rd for #2

JoeMontainya 03-03-2007 07:31 PM

Jets run a hybrid 3-4 I think.

Andra is fine in the 3-4, he gets a ton of tackles every year. We need better DL so he doesnt have to shed so much blockers and make a tackle 10 yards down field.

Beans 03-03-2007 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shavedaeyebrow2 (Post 185199)
The only way I'd trade Vilma would be for Vilma and a 3rd for #2

That's a bit ridiculous. Maybe Vilma and a high 2nd. That's a bit more realistic, but still a stretch.

jetsfan3 03-03-2007 07:32 PM

They run a 3-4, which is the only reason why Vilma is even thought about being dealt.

jetsfan3 03-03-2007 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shavedaeyebrow2 (Post 185177)
Wow, if this happens, I may just not become a Jets fan anymore. We trade away the bulk of our draft, and our defensive captain. Just wow.

You say that now, but when Adrian Peterson rushes for 2,500 yards his rookie campaign, you may begin to reconsider . . .

Diehard 03-03-2007 07:34 PM

The rumor around Denver was that Detroit wanted to acquire Al Wilson, but Shanny shot that down immediately. Now the Lions appear to be going after even bigger game in Vilma... I guess they *really* want a MLB to anchor their defense.

TCU 03-03-2007 07:35 PM

wow this would be a huge deal, Vilma is the face of the franchise and i couldnt see him anywhere but NYJ. This trade is for All Day but the Jets have to give up a lot for him, but you never know if relations between Vilma and the Jets might not be the strongest. Trade or no trade this is still exciting stuff.

Number 10 03-03-2007 07:38 PM

Vilma does not fit the 3-4 so I understand it partially....but that run defense was so bad last year and they would be losing their best LB. Seems kind of fishy unless they bring in a FA or two.

And it would make mocks so hard to make because I could see them taking Quinn, Peterson, or Johnson there.

ks_perfection 03-03-2007 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetsfan3 (Post 185211)
You say that now, but when Adrian Peterson rushes for 2,500 yards his rookie campaign, you may begin to reconsider . . .

The only way AD would rush for 2,500 yards is on Madden 2008 if your playing on easy.

Philliez01 03-03-2007 07:39 PM

I hate being "that guy" but can I have a link about this? Usually people say "John Clayton Reports. . . ." or "Adam Schefter reports. . . ." when there's a faulty news item. I remember reading on YAHOO! Answers some guy saying that Troy Aikman was coming out of retirement. Granted, this is a lot more realistic but the price for trading that high up would be ridiculous.

If so, this is obviously for AD but how would they work Leon Washington into the offense more? AD is obviously starting but how would they utilize Leon, I'm guessing like NE uses Kevin Faulk?

jetsfan3 03-03-2007 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ks_perfection (Post 185221)
The only way AD would rush for 2,500 yards is on Madden 2008 if your playing on easy.

LOL! Most likely more than that, I could probably average 1018 yards per game with AD on Rookie.

Number 10, there run defense was so bad last year, but so was their run offense.


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