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gstock05 09-06-2009 10:51 PM

Best prospect nationally in 2011
 
Ohio Quarterback Braxton miller. If you haven't heard of him yet, you likely will start hearing about him very soon. Already has offers from just about every major school in the nation, yet he hardly even played as a sophomore (most of the offers were based off his freshman year performance + 3-4 sophomore games prior to injury).


6'2- 4.4 forty, lightning quick release, great accuracy, awesome arm strength. Literally, there is only 1 possible weakness one could point out with him, and that being he could potentially be an inch or two taller (although he'd likely lose some agility).

His highlight tape would be one of the top in the country based on throwing ability, or running ability.

Highlight reel is linked below

http://scoutingohio.com/index.php/vi...Braxton.Miller

Keep in mind all of this is either sophomore or freshman game film. Un-Real.

brat316 09-06-2009 11:32 PM

we'll see, there will be guys who come along.

Hollywood 09-07-2009 12:24 AM

I prefer Teddy Bridgewater. The difference in the two is while Miller might be the slightly better runner he always seems to be looking to run while Bridgewater is always looking to throw.

gstock05 09-07-2009 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollywood (Post 1782207)
I prefer Teddy Bridgewater. The difference in the two is while Miller might be the slightly better runner he always seems to be looking to run while Bridgewater is always looking to throw.

Meh, I do agree that Bridgewater seems to want to pass more often, but on the passes that Miller throws, they're crisper, come out quicker, and he throws incredibly accurately to covered people. Most of bridgewater's passes (i havent seen as good highlights of him to be fair) were pretty rediculous as well, although I would say Miller is a little bit better of a runner. I think they're honestly 1a and 1b, but not even being a homer, I think between Bridgewater and Miller, they're probably both the best quarterback prospects in a long long time. And yes, I do think they're both better prospects than Terrelle Pryor. (perhaps not better overall athletes, but in terms of complete qb prospects.... they're both on a different level)


Regardless, Miller is the best quarterback prospect to have ever come out of ohio, and most of that is being based on freshman highlights.

brat316 09-07-2009 12:29 PM

You saying they are better than Matt Barkley, the man with the cannon.

JeffSamardzijaIRISH 09-07-2009 12:43 PM

Braxton Miller's release looks weird like Pryor's.

EDIT: Bridgewater has a much more fluid motion.

JFLO 09-07-2009 01:15 PM

I like Miller as the best quarterback, but not the best prospect overall.

I really haven't narrowed it down to #1 but my top three are Aaron Green, Ray Drew and George Farmer.

BamaFalcon59 09-07-2009 01:35 PM

Dominique Terrell from Virginia is a Percy Harvin clone.

LB Curtis Grant from Virginia will be a top LB.

Virginia OT Landon Turner is one of the top OL nationally, and he didn't even play last season.

ToldLikeItIs 09-07-2009 03:50 PM

From a physical standpoint.

Jadaveon Clowney.

gstock05 09-07-2009 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffSamardzijaIRISH (Post 1782438)
Braxton Miller's release looks weird like Pryor's.

EDIT: Bridgewater has a much more fluid motion.

Completely not the case. Pryor had a very side arm motion and wasn't a "quick" thrower.


Miller has an over-the top motion that releases as quick as just about any prospect in the country, and his passes zip out in perfect spirals.


Like I mentioned, I think Bridgewater and Miller are 1a and 1b, but I do think they're both better than Barkley was last year.

BRAVEHEART 09-07-2009 11:30 PM

In no specific order...

Christian Westerman
James Vaughters
DeAnthony Thomas
Aaron Green
James Wilder Jr.
Austin Seferian Jenkins
George Farmer
Tim Jernigan
Teddy Bridgewater
Kasen Williams

Jericho@SC 09-08-2009 04:59 PM

You guys must not know about the Black Mamba. DeAnthony Thomas from Crenshaw runs a 10.6 already as a Junior and will probably be the fastest RB from California.

Here's a highlight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMbhjzAWQuA

He and Aaron Green will contend for the top spot and overall #1. SC has a good shot at both of them.

As for Miller, I like his film. He does have good running ability and has a quicker release than Pryor. I definitely need to see more film of him passing, and in better quality. It's hard to see if his passes have that much zip or accuracy to then, and his mechanics I won't judge until I see them closer.

Jericho@SC 09-08-2009 05:04 PM

Gstock, is Miller a lock to go to OSU? If Pryor leaves after his junior year, Miller could step right in as a freshman.

P-L 09-08-2009 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jericho@SC (Post 1784724)
Gstock, is Miller a lock to go to OSU? If Pryor leaves after his junior year, Miller could step right in as a freshman.

Miller has been a Buckeye for years now. It's not a matter of if, but when.

Geomar 10-08-2009 01:19 PM

How bout throwing Savon Huggins (RB from NJ) and Daniel Lasco (RB from TX) out there in this discussion. Both are damn good.

gstock05 10-09-2009 08:49 AM

I caught a little of Bridgewater on espn while I was out at the bar the other night. I still say Braxton is a much better prospect. No disrespect to Bridgewater, but his throwing motion is long and he hasn't great mechanics.


I don't think Miller is a completely polished product alike to Matt Barkley and Jimmy Clausen, but I think he's got more raw potential than just about any quarterback I've ever seen. If we're comparing the differences between Miller and Bridgewater, I'd say they're both approximately the same on the field, although I'd say Miller has a much quicker release along with better overall accuracy.

Once again, this is partially conjecture based on highlight reels (which can't go to far considering they don't show the "bad" plays), but I can't think of a player i'd rather have than Miller right now.

wicket 10-09-2009 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRAVEHEART (Post 1783711)
In no specific order...

Christian Westerman
James Vaughters
DeAnthony Thomas
Aaron Green
James Wilder Jr.
Austin Seferian Jenkins
George Farmer
Tim Jernigan
Teddy Bridgewater
Kasen Williams

I can agree with this list pretty much

AkiliSmith 10-09-2009 09:54 AM

Cross Miller off your lists guys. He has been terrible and is now suspended the rest of the season for punching his girlfriend in the hallway at school.

gstock05 10-09-2009 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AkiliSmith (Post 1828390)
Cross Miller off your lists guys. He has been terrible and is now suspended the rest of the season for punching his girlfriend in the hallway at school.

Where did you get this baloney from? Don't tell me you read bucknuts. That was a nasty rumor started on bucknuts... that is completely false. He's had a deep thigh bruise the past 2 games.. thats why he hasnt played.

AkiliSmith 10-10-2009 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gstock05 (Post 1828762)
Where did you get this baloney from? Don't tell me you read bucknuts. That was a nasty rumor started on bucknuts... that is completely false. He's had a deep thigh bruise the past 2 games.. thats why he hasnt played.

I live in the same city he plays football. I live next door to the head coach. I have brothers that go to high school with him. It isn't a rumor, it is 100% fact.

BadHabitz 10-10-2009 02:12 AM

It's kind of sad when you go around spreading rumors (and yes they are rumors until proven by an official source) about kids... not adults, but kids in high school. Especially someone who is not even a senior yet.

Raiderz4Life 10-10-2009 02:32 AM

http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs...od_over_m.html

That's from today's game...he's not suspended....idiot

TitanHope 10-10-2009 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadHabitz (Post 1829240)
It's kind of sad when you go around spreading rumors (and yes they are rumors until proven by an official source) about kids... not adults, but kids in high school. Especially someone who is not even a senior yet.

Welcome to the interwebz!

Srsly though, get off your high horse. AkiliSmith lives in the area, and another outlet has said it as well. If you want Rivals or Scout to report it before you believe it, then right on bro. But don't get on anyone's case who, as far as they know, aren't spreading rumors but factual information.

Besides, the amount of media attention that these high profile recruits get puts them in the spotlight. When that happens, they become a target for discussion - especially on a recruiting forum. If Miller did in fact assault his girlfriend, and he's considered to be one of the best high school players in the country, then the issue should be looked at further.

AkiliSmith 10-10-2009 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadHabitz (Post 1829240)
It's kind of sad when you go around spreading rumors (and yes they are rumors until proven by an official source) about kids... not adults, but kids in high school. Especially someone who is not even a senior yet.

Why would I, a 25 almost 26 year old Police Officer, intentionally start rumors about a 16 or 17 year old boy? What is my motive? I don't have a motive, because I didn't realize the ******** rumor that he was hurt is being spread around to not screw over his career. Everyone that ya know, actually lives in the area and goes to school with him knows the truth. Just because Dayton Daily doesn't have a front page article doesn't mean it's not true.

My brother has talked to people who saw the incident go down in the hallway. My father has spoken to dads of other players and they know it's true. I'm not making this up, I have no reason to. He punched the girl, a teacher saw it and Miller said, "Don't you know who I am?" As far as I know criminal charges are going to be filed but there is no way of proving it because he's a juvenile and it's not public record.

It's kind of sad that they only suspended him for 2.5 games though when it was supposed to be the rest of the season. I guess they realized they were crap without him after going 0-2.

wicket 10-10-2009 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AkiliSmith (Post 1829301)
Why would I, a 25 almost 26 year old Police Officer, intentionally start rumors about a 16 or 17 year old boy? What is my motive? I don't have a motive, because I didn't realize the ******** rumor that he was hurt is being spread around to not screw over his career. Everyone that ya know, actually lives in the area and goes to school with him knows the truth. Just because Dayton Daily doesn't have a front page article doesn't mean it's not true.

My brother has talked to people who saw the incident go down in the hallway. My father has spoken to dads of other players and they know it's true. I'm not making this up, I have no reason to. He punched the girl, a teacher saw it and Miller said, "Don't you know who I am?" As far as I know criminal charges are going to be filed but there is no way of proving it because he's a juvenile and it's not public record.

It's kind of sad that they only suspended him for 2.5 games though when it was supposed to be the rest of the season. I guess they realized they were crap without him after going 0-2.

oh the decline of the values of the law enforcement. but seriously arent you a bit old to say how old you almost are with your actual age.


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