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49ersfan_87 03-10-2007 10:51 PM

Systems
 
What are some systems that players flourish in, but when they leave that system, become much less productive in new systems?

The only one that comes to mind is the pittsburgh Linebackers. Most recent example is kendrell bell, who flourished in Pitt but has been bad in KC.

BlindSite 03-10-2007 11:57 PM

Cover 2 Cornerbacks.

Xenos 03-11-2007 12:06 AM

Jeff Garcia and an offense that doesn't use the West Coast style.

Shiver 03-11-2007 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BlindSite (Post 208312)
Cover 2 Cornerbacks.

I agree entirely. That scheme masks their deficiencies. It isn't even fair to compare "corners" in the Tampa 2 with corners that play man-to-man primarily. I know most of the corners turned analysts say similar things, i.e they are practically playing an entirely different position. They have to jam, maintain outside leverage, and tackle. They don't have to worry getting beat deep, nor will they face the criticism other corners face because of that fact.

Mr. Stiller 03-11-2007 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 49ersfan_87 (Post 208146)
What are some systems that players flourish in, but when they leave that system, become much less productive in new systems?

The only one that comes to mind is the pittsburgh Linebackers. Most recent example is kendrell bell, who flourished in Pitt but has been bad in KC.

Could have been due to Injuries?

Any Linebackers we left that never did anything... also usually retired in 1-3 years afterwards.. past their prime perhaps?

49ersfan_87 03-11-2007 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Stiller (Post 208619)
Could have been due to Injuries?

Any Linebackers we left that never did anything... also usually retired in 1-3 years afterwards.. past their prime perhaps?

We will see with porter i guess, he is 30 and should still have some years left.

yourfavestoner 03-11-2007 01:37 PM

Tampa Two defensive tackles that end up as 3-4 ends. It almost always turns out ugly.

eaglesalltheway 03-11-2007 01:54 PM

Garcia is a good example, as stated before, but A.J. Feeley is another example of that as well.

Komp 03-11-2007 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by eaglesalltheway (Post 209496)
Garcia is a good example, as stated before, but A.J. Feeley is another example of that as well.

When has AJ Feeley flourished at anything other than being sub-par QB?

FLORIDA PACKER 03-11-2007 03:49 PM

West Coast Offense has been really friendly to A.J. just look at his stats with philly compared to Miami.

neko4 03-11-2007 04:19 PM

You could make the case that Portis hasnt been as goood. Most rb's that leave DEN are never as good as they were.

gbpackers0065 03-11-2007 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by neko4 (Post 209904)
You could make the case that Portis hasnt been as goood. Most rb's that leave DEN are never as good as they were.

zone-blocking system

see ahman green's 2006 stats

neko4 03-11-2007 04:30 PM

yeah i know, Green did show improvement

Splat 03-11-2007 08:16 PM

Pretty much every big name player the Skins give big money to.

Chucky 03-11-2007 08:18 PM

ravens LB's always seem to do worse. Also 3-4 OLBs dont adapt to other schemes well


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