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J-Mike88 07-30-2010 11:39 AM

Training Camp Injury Thread
 
And other terrible injuries, put em in here.
These are usually the biggest newsmakers of training camp and I hate all torn ACLs even on the Vikings.
These things could ruin a team's season before August ends.


WESTMINSTER, Md. -- Baltimore Ravens starting cornerback Domonique Foxworth tore his anterior cruciate ligament in Thursday's practice and will miss the coming season.

The veteran was hurt Thursday during an informal practice period. Coach John Harbaugh said Friday that Foxworth tore his ACL without being touched.

Foxworth had four interceptions last season.

His injury is another setback for Baltimore's defensive backfield. Fabian Washington and Lardarius Webb are dealing with injuries and safety Ed Reed, who had hip surgery in the offseason, will start the season on the physically unable to perform list.

Brent 07-30-2010 11:57 AM

I guess that Walt Harris signing looks better.

PoopSandwich 07-30-2010 12:48 PM

Can't wait to see what happens in the AFC North... Ravens defense could be falling apart, Bengals offense is looking to be top 5 in the league, Steelers have question marks all around, the Browns have a lot of young guys on offense and defense that no one really knows anything about. I'm thinking this division is really gonna beat the **** out of each other this year.

I'm thinking

1. Ravens - 12-4/13-3 (Depends big time on if Flacco keeps progressing, Boldin stays health, and Ray Rice stays at a top level)
2. Bengals - 11-5/12-4 (Carson Palmer.)
3. Steelers - 7-9/8-8 (Injuries, Holmes is gone, really only 2 deep at receiver, defense is old)
4. Browns - 6-10/7-9 (Delhomme is a huge ?, very inexperienced wide receiving corps, young defense, need run game to stay at the level it ended the season at.)

CC.SD 07-30-2010 01:10 PM

Depressing thread is depressing.

J-Mike88 07-30-2010 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njx9 (Post 2245693)
i'm not entirely sure this needs it's own thread, but it could've at least had a decent title to start with.

Good point, although the ACL tears definitely grab the eye.

As for the AFC North, I don't see how Cinci isn't the favorite considering what they did last year to Baltimore & Sixburgh and they return all their key guys don't they, plus will have Mauluga back?

Rosebud 07-30-2010 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WinslowBodden (Post 2245684)
Can't wait to see what happens in the AFC North... Ravens defense could be falling apart, Bengals offense is looking to be top 5 in the league, Steelers have question marks all around, the Browns have a lot of young guys on offense and defense that no one really knows anything about. I'm thinking this division is really gonna beat the **** out of each other this year.

I'm thinking

1. Ravens - 12-4/13-3 (Depends big time on if Flacco keeps progressing, Boldin stays health, and Ray Rice stays at a top level)
2. Bengals - 11-5/12-4 (Carson Palmer.)
3. Steelers - 7-9/8-8 (Injuries, Holmes is gone, really only 2 deep at receiver, defense is old)
4. Browns - 6-10/7-9 (Delhomme is a huge ?, very inexperienced wide receiving corps, young defense, need run game to stay at the level it ended the season at.)

Wait what? Their D could be top 5, but that offense is a long ways from top 5 unless Carson Palmer suddenly becomes the Carson Palmer of 2006. The running game will be strong with that monstrous OL even though I expect Benson to have a quieter year as he took a lot carries last year. The passing game isn't that good IMO, Chad's chad, TO may be slowing down but he's still going to be a good second receiver, Graham's got tons of talent and when healthy and his head's on straight Bryant is a very talented WR. So the weapons are good enough, but Carson Palmer just hasn't played like a guy who can run a top 5 offense.

Splat 07-30-2010 03:45 PM

I hate this thread that is all.

M.O.T.H. 07-30-2010 04:37 PM

Dez Bryant injured his ankle on one of the last plays of practice, just now. Had to be helped off the field by the trainers. Dont know the severity yet. He apparently tried to get up twice and fell both times. hmmm.

Ravens1991 07-30-2010 04:47 PM

To make matters worse for Baltimore, Jared Gaither was carted off the field w/ a back injury.

BeerBaron 07-30-2010 04:48 PM

Just to kick the Ravens ass a little more, Jared Gaither carted off the field:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...off-the-field/

Ravens1991 07-30-2010 04:57 PM

http://blogs.baltimoreravens.com/201...her-cramps-up/


just cramps for Gaither. Nothing serious

yourfavestoner 07-30-2010 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M.O.T.H. (Post 2245968)
Dez Bryant injured his ankle on one of the last plays of practice, just now. Had to be helped off the field by the trainers. Dont know the severity yet. He apparently tried to get up twice and fell both times. hmmm.

Sounds like a high ankle sprain.

Damn, that sucks for him, as those can be pretty serious and can linger. He just needs to take two weeks off or so, because those can mess with you all season.

wonderbredd24 07-30-2010 05:01 PM

The Ravens secondary is so ridiculously thin... Foxworth gone, Ed Reed looking like he's headed for the PUP list... they better hope the LaDarius Webb's of the world develop in a hurry since they decided to use their 1st 2 picks on risky front 7 players.

Unfortunately, since the Browns have yet to demonstrate they can pass, this is almost meaningless from a matchup standpoint.

And while Gaither being hurt would be unfortunate, the Ravens OLine is so retardedly deep, I doubt they miss a beat in his absence, however long that would be

Ravens1991 07-30-2010 05:04 PM

Webb played very well in his time. I just hope we can not start on PUP. Washington is practicing and he is what he is, a nice #2 CB. After that we got a bunch of old guys or really young and unproven guys. I am nervous. But Suggs is lost 20-25 pounds so hopefully that spices our pass rush up.

PoopSandwich 07-30-2010 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosebud (Post 2245912)
Wait what? Their D could be top 5, but that offense is a long ways from top 5 unless Carson Palmer suddenly becomes the Carson Palmer of 2006. The running game will be strong with that monstrous OL even though I expect Benson to have a quieter year as he took a lot carries last year. The passing game isn't that good IMO, Chad's chad, TO may be slowing down but he's still going to be a good second receiver, Graham's got tons of talent and when healthy and his head's on straight Bryant is a very talented WR. So the weapons are good enough, but Carson Palmer just hasn't played like a guy who can run a top 5 offense.

True, but they added Gresham, TO, Antonio Bryant... They're definitely looking to be one of the better offenses in the league.

MetSox17 07-30-2010 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WinslowBodden (Post 2246025)
True, but they added Gresham, TO, Antonio Bryant... They're definitely looking to be one of the better offenses in the league.

Did you just completely ignore Rosebud's post? He acknowledged the fact that they have a **** load of talented skill position players. But what good is that WR corps if no one can get them the ball? Carson Palmer has looked like dog **** the past few seasons, and honestly i don't see that changing either.

PoopSandwich 07-30-2010 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetSox17 (Post 2246031)
Did you just completely ignore Rosebud's post? He acknowledged the fact that they have a **** load of talented skill position players. But what good is that WR corps if no one can get them the ball? Carson Palmer has looked like dog **** the past few seasons, and honestly i don't see that changing either.

I should have bolded the end of the post which I was referring to when I said (about Palmer) "True, but they added x y and z. They're looking to be one of the better offenses"

Palmer has been injured on and off the past few years and if the talent around him this year can't get him to put up huge numbers nothing will.

Mr.Regular 07-30-2010 06:06 PM

Im becoming less and less excited by Baltimore's prospects. This is such a pass first league now that secondary depth is becoming increasingly important. They have none.
I want to like the Bengals, but Im just not a believer in Carson Palmer anymore. If he can play better than he did in 09 though, watch out. That defense is really good. Underrated line, sick LB'ers, and the best duo of corners in the NFL. Plus that running game combined with Gresham and TO has great potential. All boils down to Palmer as I said.

FUNBUNCHER 07-30-2010 06:29 PM

I'm liking the Bengals as a big sleeper for a deep playoff run in 2010. Quietly, all the pieces have come together for them this offseason.

Palmer is healthy as far as I know, and Gresham, the rookie TE, is the GUY who's going to open up their passing game.

People may not like to think so, but on paper this looks like one of the most complete Bengals team since their SB runs in the 1980s.

Splat 07-30-2010 06:30 PM

Report: Dez Bryant "likely" has high ankle sprain

Bengals78 07-30-2010 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetSox17 (Post 2246031)
Did you just completely ignore Rosebud's post? He acknowledged the fact that they have a **** load of talented skill position players. But what good is that WR corps if no one can get them the ball? Carson Palmer has looked like dog **** the past few seasons, and honestly i don't see that changing either.

Last few years haven't been Carson's fault.
We did dick in terms of getting him any talent. Last year he was money going down the field in the last 2 minutes. In our run oriented offense, his numbers werent gonna be great combined with our starting TE's being Dan Coats and JP Foschi. Oh yeah, our only vertical threat died, so we were left with Chad at WR.
This will be Carson's first year with an intact OLine too.
Ever since 06 we have had some rotating doors at every spot but RG.
05-07 he was putting up great numbers. In 2008 he got hurt only played 4 games. Last year in 100 less attempts than he had in between 05-07, he still had decent numbers in such a run heavy offense.
He is not completely free of blame but to say he has played like **** is wrong. He has been on some God awful teams.

J-Mike88 07-30-2010 07:07 PM

High ankle sprain for a WR, especially a rookie, can keep a guy out for awhile.
But Bryant hasn't missed any time so he's gonna be fine even if he misses a week or two. Might delay his progress a bit, but they already have an extra pre-season game for him to work out the kinks.

As for some veterans with secure job status, remember there's always a few of them who tend to volunteer for some nagging injuries in these dog days of July, early August. It's not like them missing some 100-degree practices will cost them any paychecks.

I just hope there are no more ACLs to add to this list, even Viking players.
Domonique Foxworth.... poor guy.
I know they've made serious strides in treating these damn injuries over the past 10-15 years, but I wish they could somehow magically cut them down to a 2 months out. Speed up the rehab process.

Bengals78 07-30-2010 07:09 PM

ACL tears are the worst. You always feel bad whenever you hear about it. No matter how much better they get at fixing them, it still is just so damn long.

LonghornsLegend 07-30-2010 07:11 PM

Dez will be out 4-6 weeks.


Sucks, but he'll be ready in time for week 1 most likely. Won't be starting, as he would of needed a full Training Camp to pull that off, but I'd rather be cautious and get him 100% before rushing him back. I was hoping to get him some valuable reps in pre-season more then anything.


Oh well, no need in acting like injuries weren't going to happen, I expect alot more ,and 4-6 weeks is better then months, or out of the season, for anyone.

J-Mike88 07-30-2010 07:13 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nfl...ory?id=5424332
From Calvin Watkins.

SAN ANTONIO -- Dallas Cowboys rookie wide receiver Dez Bryant suffered a right high ankle sprain near the end of Friday's practice, and the team said he will be out 4-6 weeks.

That means Bryant could miss the entire preseason.

The Cowboys' top three picks are injured. Second-round linebacker Sean Lee has been sidelined since Tuesday with a strained quadriceps. Fourth-round safety Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, who had shoulder surgery in March, has not been cleared to practice yet.

You don't like them to miss," Cowboys coach Wade Phillips said. "We do have an extra week [of training camp], which [Bryant] has taken advantage of, being here and learning all those things. He's actually done real well as far as assignments are concerned."


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